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[G-Unit]

Kate could have just moved to another table, to get away from Gerry's "bad behaviour".

What bad behaviour?

[jassi]

Kate could have just moved to another table, to get away from Gerry's "bad behaviour".

I can't see her sitting by herself at another table. More likely to storm off in a huff. IMO

[G-Unit]

I can't see her sitting by herself at another table. More likely to storm off in a huff. IMO

Najoua noticed nothing unusual, so whatever happened it's reasonable to assume that no-one reacted to Kate's absence.  Not even her husband, although he says he was going to go and check on her after 10 minutes on Thursday evening.

[pathfinder73]

Gerry's flirting may explain why Kate left and went back to the apartment and then sent texts to her friend. The next night she slept in the spare bed so that could be the underlying reason.

[G-Unit]

Gerry's flirting may explain why Kate left and went back to the apartment and then sent texts to her friend. The next night she slept in the spare bed so that could be the underlying reason.

Najoua could be wrong, of course, and Kate could have been at the table. If she was, though, she wasn't checking her kids at 9:30 as she claimed. .

[pathfinder73]

No they weren't checking that often as told by the tapas staff that were interviewed. Some stuff in the latest Maddie podcast about it.

[Robittybob1]

I can't see her sitting by herself at another table. More likely to storm off in a huff. IMO

She wouldn't want to entirely miss out on the meal and the wine.   Keep an eye on proceedings too.  [All in my imagination.]

There is a conversation where they remind Gerry that "Kate is not that bad" (maybe not the exact quote).  But in truth she is rather flat chested when compared to Najoua.

[Robittybob1]

No they weren't checking that often as told by the tapas staff that were interviewed. Some stuff in the latest Maddie podcast about it.

In other words he can't be sure, or even worse he doesn't know.

[G-Unit]

She wouldn't want to entirely miss out on the meal and the wine.   Keep an eye on proceedings too.  [All in my imagination.]

There is a conversation where they remind Gerry that "Kate is not that bad" (maybe not the exact quote).  But in truth she is rather flat chested when compared to Najoua.

According to Najoua they had finished eating before 9:30, so she had eaten. According to Kate's book Gerry left abruptly on Wednesday night leaving her standing there. She says that was just Gerry being Gerry, he felt tired so he went off to bed. David seemed to feel the need to comment and called after him that she (Kate) wasn't that bad.  Why he said that I don't know, but it could be because he saw Gerry's departure as a reaction to friction with Kate rather than a sudden overwhelming desire for sleep.

[Robittybob1]

According to Najoua they had finished eating before 9:30, so she had eaten. According to Kate's book Gerry left abruptly on Wednesday night leaving her standing there. She says that was just Gerry being Gerry, he felt tired so he went off to bed. David seemed to feel the need to comment and called after him that she (Kate) wasn't that bad.  Why he said that I don't know, but it could be because he saw Gerry's departure as a reaction to friction with Kate rather than a sudden overwhelming desire for sleep.

Who knows but it wasn't one of their better times together by the sound of it.

[Venturi Swirl]

She wouldn't want to entirely miss out on the meal and the wine.   Keep an eye on proceedings too.  [All in my imagination.]

There is a conversation where they remind Gerry that "Kate is not that bad" (maybe not the exact quote).  But in truth she is rather flat chested when compared to Najoua.

WTF??

[The General]

All this drinking and making merry until either 11pm or 12, depending on who you ask, while the two babies and an infant are left in an empty apartment to fend for themselves  - repeatedly. Sickening behaviour.
I don't care if they came and went every half hour, it's negligent at best. I'm not surprised there were reports of persistent crying; Maddie was probably beside herself with fear and separation anxiety, whilst potentially consoling her siblings. If one child wakes in a dark, empty apartment, in a strange place, then they all wake up.
What if she needed a wee? What if she'd actually wee'd the bed? 'Customary behaviour for Brits' my arse.

The conjecture surrounding the texts / flirting / argument is irrelevant, apart from showing the established dinner routine.

[G-Unit]

All this drinking and making merry until either 11pm or 12, depending on who you ask, while the two babies and an infant are left in an empty apartment to fend for themselves  - repeatedly. Sickening behaviour.
I don't care if they came and went every half hour, it's negligent at best. I'm not surprised there were reports of persistent crying; Maddie was probably beside herself with fear and separation anxiety, whilst potentially consoling her siblings. If one child wakes in a dark, empty apartment, in a strange place, then they all wake up.
What if she needed a wee? What if she'd actually wee'd the bed? 'Customary behaviour for Brits' my arse.

The conjecture surrounding the texts / flirting / argument is irrelevant, apart from showing the established dinner routine.

Most people put their children first; it's ckear they didn't imo.

[The General]

Most people put their children first; it's ckear they didn't imo.

I know this aspect generally gets defended and, personally, I don't know what happened afterwards. But to leave your kids like that once would be neglect in my opinion and is an offence in the UK:
The law doesn’t say an age when you can leave a child on their own, but it’s an offence to leave a child alone if it places them at risk. These kids were clearly, demonstrably at risk, as one of them isn't here any more as a result. And the NSPCC clearly don't think it's 'normal'.
The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) says:

children under 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
children under 16 shouldn’t be left alone overnight
babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone

[Robittybob1]

I know this aspect generally gets defended and, personally, I don't know what happened afterwards. But to leave your kids like that once would be neglect in my opinion and is an offence in the UK:
The law doesn’t say an age when you can leave a child on their own, but it’s an offence to leave a child alone if it places them at risk. These kids were clearly, demonstrably at risk, as one of them isn't here any more as a result. And the NSPCC clearly don't think it's 'normal'.
The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) says:

children under 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
children under 16 shouldn’t be left alone overnight
babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone

Are their recommendations law?