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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1095 on: April 22, 2022, 09:08:19 AM »
"already cleared before through the filing dispatch of a criminal investigation"
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7937.0
So your previous post did promote lies as I said.
The McCann's lawyers never said the despatch proved their innocence

Offline G-Unit

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1096 on: April 22, 2022, 09:13:35 AM »
So your previous post did promote lies as I said.
The McCann's lawyers never said the despatch proved their innocence

Semantics.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1097 on: April 22, 2022, 09:16:47 AM »
Semantics.
Your post is absolute rubbish. You have changed the wording and presented it as a fact.  The lawyers never said the archiving despatch oroved innocence... Your post is therefore a lie
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 10:21:36 AM by Davel »

Offline G-Unit

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1098 on: April 22, 2022, 11:27:42 AM »
Your post is absolute rubbish. You have changed the wording and presented it as a fact.  The lawyers never said the archiving despatch oroved innocence... Your post is therefore a lie

Well the judges thought she did because they answered thus;

Thus, it does not appear acceptable to consider that the alluded dispatch, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be treated as evidence of innocence.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7937.15
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1099 on: April 22, 2022, 11:38:24 AM »
Well the judges thought she did because they answered thus;

Thus, it does not appear acceptable to consider that the alluded dispatch, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be treated as evidence of innocence.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7937.15

No they didn't.. You are wrong again.
You have moved now from proof of innocence to evidence of innocence.
Proof and evidence are not the same thing.
Even a not guilty verdict after a trial would not be proof of innocence... Not absolute proof that is.

I would day that the archiving despatch was evidence of innocence.. But if you think proof and evidence as words are interchangeable... You will never understand

Offline G-Unit

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1100 on: April 22, 2022, 12:17:56 PM »
No they didn't.. You are wrong again.
You have moved now from proof of innocence to evidence of innocence.
Proof and evidence are not the same thing.
Even a not guilty verdict after a trial would not be proof of innocence... Not absolute proof that is.

I would day that the archiving despatch was evidence of innocence.. But if you think proof and evidence as words are interchangeable... You will never understand

As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance and in any way whatsoever, this conclusion substantiating an archiving for factual reasons
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

I think Duarte was relying on the wording of Article 277/1. She seems to use evidence and proof as if they were interchangeable;

Article 277 - Archiving of the investigation

1 - The Public Ministry shall, by dispatch, close the investigation, as soon as it has gathered sufficient evidence that the crime was not confirmed, that the arguido did not practice it in any way or that the procedure is legally inadmissible

    
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Offline Brietta

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1101 on: April 22, 2022, 01:21:25 PM »
As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance and in any way whatsoever, this conclusion substantiating an archiving for factual reasons
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

I think Duarte was relying on the wording of Article 277/1. She seems to use evidence and proof as if they were interchangeable;

Article 277 - Archiving of the investigation

1 - The Public Ministry shall, by dispatch, close the investigation, as soon as it has gathered sufficient evidence that the crime was not confirmed, that the arguido did not practice it in any way or that the procedure is legally inadmissible

Apart from slurring the McCanns is there anything going on at the moment which could even be considered as being on the topic of either
  • tannerman
  • smithman or
  • brueckner
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1102 on: April 22, 2022, 01:25:57 PM »
Apart from slurring the McCanns is there anything going on at the moment which could even be considered as being on the topic of either
  • tannerman
  • smithman or
  • brueckner
Yeh, and earlier intervening would have got the thread back on track much sooner. Opportunity missed there.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 01:34:56 PM by Brietta »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1103 on: April 22, 2022, 01:33:30 PM »
As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance and in any way whatsoever, this conclusion substantiating an archiving for factual reasons
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

I think Duarte was relying on the wording of Article 277/1. She seems to use evidence and proof as if they were interchangeable;

Article 277 - Archiving of the investigation

1 - The Public Ministry shall, by dispatch, close the investigation, as soon as it has gathered sufficient evidence that the crime was not confirmed, that the arguido did not practice it in any way or that the procedure is legally inadmissible

In the first paragraph it says proof... In second evidence..
Which inee is correct

Offline The General

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1104 on: April 22, 2022, 01:35:57 PM »
In the first paragraph it says proof... In second evidence..
Which inee is correct
Don't worry Brie, I'll do it.........let's keep it on topic, guys, yeh?

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1105 on: April 22, 2022, 01:56:19 PM »
In the first paragraph it says proof... In second evidence..
Which inee is correct

The first one is the lawyers' interpretation of the second one, which is the correct one.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1106 on: April 22, 2022, 02:43:14 PM »
Apart from slurring the McCanns is there anything going on at the moment which could even be considered as being on the topic of either
  • tannerman
  • smithman or
  • brueckner
Neither of those are verbatim quotes from Duarte
They are translations.. So have they been translated correctly.. Provar it seems can mean both in Portuguese
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 05:12:03 PM by Davel »

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Re: Tannerman, Smithman and Christian Brueckner
« Reply #1107 on: April 22, 2022, 06:17:08 PM »
It would appear that the latest revelations concerning the status of Christian Brückner has served to increase the need for proactive moderation once more. I will be watching very closely for any infringement of the rules for the foreseeable future.

Continued goading and the use of inappropriate language will result in posting restrictions for those concerned.

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