Author Topic: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?  (Read 136983 times)

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Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #555 on: August 23, 2018, 09:54:58 AM »
How it be - it was uttered by the saintly Kate

I wouldn't describe Kate as a Saint.
One has to be dead to be given that title.

Kate felt that Amaral had abandoned the search for her missing child. You may not agree.
He was accusing them of being complicit in their child's disappearance.

She felt fear and misery because of him.
Rightly or wrongly she expressed the wish that he too might feel the misery and recalled that feeling in her book

Why did Brenda feel so aggrieved?
Why did she feel the need to wish them fear and why spend so much of her time in expressing such dark thoughts about the family of a missing child?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #556 on: August 23, 2018, 10:05:25 AM »
All tidied.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #557 on: August 23, 2018, 10:06:42 AM »
Not ridiculous at all, Davel is pursuing a poster over a minor disagreement over definitions yet makes a false claim that Brenda Leyland made 36,500 posts against the McCanns when the inquest heard that She made 400 about the McCanns

To me that indicates rank hypocrisy.

Haven't you noticed that I am being pursued by a poster whose request for a cite was complied with but continues in his/her demand for a cite because the cites I provided didn't for some obscure reason suit?

This "cite" business is becoming rather ridiculous in my opinion when it is misused in the way it is currently being abused on the forum:  it appears to me to be the concerted reflex action of choice to disrupt and goad.

In my opinion we have already had two examples of this already today.

In my opinion it is rather becoming a pattern.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #558 on: August 23, 2018, 10:11:23 AM »
Haven't you noticed that I am being pursued by a poster whose request for a cite was complied with but continues in his/her demand for a cite because the cites I provided didn't for some obscure reason suit?

This "cite" business is becoming rather ridiculous in my opinion when it is misused in the way it is currently being abused on the forum:  it appears to me to be the concerted reflex action of choice to disrupt and goad.

In my opinion we have already had two examples of this already today.

In my opinion it is rather becoming a pattern.

Now which side was it wanted cites in the first place?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #559 on: August 23, 2018, 10:12:47 AM »
I wouldn't describe Kate as a Saint.
One has to be dead to be given that title.

Kate felt that Amaral had abandoned the search for her missing child. You may not agree.
He was accusing them of being complicit in their child's disappearance.

She felt fear and misery because of him.
Rightly or wrongly she expressed the wish that he too might feel the misery and recalled that feeling in her book

Why did Brenda feel so aggrieved?
Why did she feel the need to wish them fear and why spend so much of her time in expressing such dark thoughts about the family of a missing child?

And yet she was willing to forgive the alleged abductor.
Strange priorities - to my mind.

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #560 on: August 23, 2018, 10:12:56 AM »
I wouldn't describe Kate as a Saint.
One has to be dead to be given that title.

Kate felt that Amaral had abandoned the search for her missing child. You may not agree.
He was accusing them of being complicit in their child's disappearance.

She felt fear and misery because of him.
Rightly or wrongly she expressed the wish that he too might feel the misery and recalled that feeling in her book

Why did Brenda feel so aggrieved?
Why did she feel the need to wish them fear and why spend so much of her time in expressing such dark thoughts about the family of a missing child?



Obviously because she thought the mcns involved in maddie disappearance.

BL did at one time support the mcns - even adding a substantial amount to the fund.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #561 on: August 23, 2018, 10:20:35 AM »
Now which side was it wanted cites in the first place?

Could I suggest you stopped seeing posters as having sides... Or holding grudges... And simply judge each post on it's merits

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #562 on: August 23, 2018, 10:21:49 AM »
Could I suggest you stopped seeing posters as having sides... Or holding grudges... And simply judge each post on it's merits

I then get accused of bias.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #563 on: August 23, 2018, 10:22:13 AM »


Obviously because she thought the mcns involved in maddie disappearance.

BL did at one time support the mcns - even adding a substantial amount to the fund.

I find that very hard to believe

Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #564 on: August 23, 2018, 10:23:15 AM »


Obviously because she thought the mcns involved in maddie disappearance.

BL did at one time support the mcns - even adding a substantial amount to the fund.


That does not explain her obsession and her use of menacing language.
What did she hope to achieve?

Can I ask how you know that she added "a substantial amount to the fund" ?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #565 on: August 23, 2018, 10:25:41 AM »
And yet she was willing to forgive the alleged abductor.
Strange priorities - to my mind.


Can you give me the cite for "she was willing to forgive the abductor"?

I've read this before and believe she said it in a broadcast but would like to hear her exact words.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #566 on: August 23, 2018, 10:27:12 AM »

Can you give me the cite for "she was willing to forgive the abductor"?

I've read this before and believe she said it in a broadcast but would like to hear her exact words.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Erngath

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #567 on: August 23, 2018, 10:38:34 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

From the newspaper report.
I COULD probably forgive the abductor, not would.

While her child is still missing, I imagine this would be the message she would wish to impart.

I would like to see the recording of the programme.
It was a religious programme and she was being asked about her Faith.
Was she asked directly about forgiveness?

E TA

I now notice you said "willing".
I suppose we could have an endless debate about the difference in  the meaning of  willing and could and would.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2018, 10:43:50 AM by Erngath »
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #568 on: August 23, 2018, 10:41:22 AM »
From the newspaper report.
I COULD probably forgive the abductor, not would.

While her child is still missing, I imagine this would be the message she would wish to impart.

I would like to see the recording of the programme.
It was a religious programme and she was being asked about her Faith.
Was she asked directly about forgiveness?

It's all about context... Taking a statement out of context can totally change it's meaning


The Pope arrives in new York... As he gets off the plane a journalist asks... Will you be going to any night clubs in New York... Pope replies... Are there any night clubs in new York..

Next days papers... First words from pope on arrival...

Are there, any night clubs in new York
« Last Edit: August 23, 2018, 10:44:24 AM by Davel »

Offline jassi

Re: Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?
« Reply #569 on: August 23, 2018, 10:44:58 AM »
From the newspaper report.
I COULD probably forgive the abductor, not would.

While her child is still missing, I imagine this would be the message she would wish to impart.

I would like to see the recording of the programme.
It was a religious programme and she was being asked about her Faith.
Was she asked directly about forgiveness?

You are on the verge of becoming as tedious as old "Dangerous"

I made no pretence to quote her actual words, but rather paraphrased the sentiment of what she said.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future