Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[Venturi Swirl]

I think many treated her as an anachronistic joke.

You don’t say!

[G-Unit]

Mary Whitehouse was a person guided by her strong moral beliefs and religious principles.  Do you believe she was a malign influence on British society?  The dossier compilers seem to be considered malign by some on here, were they in your view?

Mary Whitehouse and the dossier compiler's both disapproved of certain things. Not only did they disapprove they wanted everyone else to comply with their opinions. They had every right to have opinions, but no right to insist that there opinions should dominate.

[Venturi Swirl]

Mary Whitehouse and the dossier compiler's both disapproved of certain things. Not only did they disapprove they wanted everyone else to comply with their opinions. They had every right to have opinions, but no right to insist that there opinions should dominate.

Can you provideva link to the dossier compilers insistence that their opinions should dominate?  Was Whitehouse wrong to insist that “kiddie porn” was wrong?  Was Jayne Senior wrong to go to the Times when she thought it wrong that Asian gangs were grooming underage girls and the police turned a blind eye? Rhetorical, my questions are far too difficult  to give an honest answer to, I know.

[G-Unit]

I think many treated her as an anachronistic joke.

She certainly didn't share the mood of the 1960's.

[Venturi Swirl]

She certainly didn't share the mood of the 1960's.

Was she a bad person?

[G-Unit]

Can you provideva link to the dossier compilers insistence that their opinions should dominate?  Was Whitehouse wrong to insist that “kiddie porn” was wrong?  Was Jayne Senior wrong to go to the Times when she thought it wrong that Asian gangs were grooming underage girls and the police turned a blind eye? Rhetorical, my questions are far too difficult  to give an honest answer to, I know.

Jayne Senior isn't the same because she exposed actual crimes.
Mary Whitehouse wanted censorship of the media and the BBC.
The dossier compilers wanted people to be prosecuted for what they thought were crimes;

Brunt said those who compiled the dossier have reacted with "absolute dismay" at the decision not to prosecute.

"They say it is tantamount to giving the trolls, as they call them, carte blanche to carry on abusing the McCanns," he said.
https://news.sky.com/story/mccann-trolls-police-wont-take-action-10361261

[jassi]

Was she a bad person?

 Merely a subjective decision based on an individual's  outlook.

I would consider her misguided rather than bad.

[Erngath]

Merely a subjective decision based on an individual's  outlook.

I would consider her misguided rather than bad.

I'm finding this deflection from  pertinent questions asked to a Mary Whitehouse discussion, very cleverly done.

[Mr Gray]

I'm finding this deflection from  pertinent questions asked to a Mary Whitehouse discussion, very cleverly done.

Maybe such a high profile case will bring about a clarification  of the law... Brenda felt what she, was doing was perfectly acceptable.   It is if you accept victims of online abuse committing suicide... It isn't if you dont

[G-Unit]

Was she a bad person?

What on earth has that got to do with it? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I will always oppose anyone who seeks to stop others saying, reading or watching something just because they disapprove of it.

[Venturi Swirl]

Jayne Senior isn't the same because she exposed actual crimes.
Mary Whitehouse wanted censorship of the media and the BBC.
The dossier compilers wanted people to be prosecuted for what they thought were crimes;

Brunt said those who compiled the dossier have reacted with "absolute dismay" at the decision not to prosecute.

"They say it is tantamount to giving the trolls, as they call them, carte blanche to carry on abusing the McCanns," he said.
https://news.sky.com/story/mccann-trolls-police-wont-take-action-10361261

Jayne Senior IS IMO the same because until she went to the Times, the police were not interested in investigating these crimes.  In other words, they weren't crimes as far as the police were concerned UNTIL the media shone a light on their complacency about child sex grooming.  As far as she or the Times knew at the time of blowing the whistle, the police could still have come back with a decision not to prosecute.  The only difference is that in the case of the malign tweets being made about the McCanns and accusing them, of among other things, being murderers, the police decided not to go ahead with any prosecutions.   The dossier compilers have every right to be dismayed at what they perceived to be police complacency, that doesn't mean they insisted on anything. 

[Venturi Swirl]

What on earth has that got to do with it? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I will always oppose anyone who seeks to stop others saying, reading or watching something just because they disapprove of it.

Does that include looking at child pornography, which thanks in large part to Mary Whitehouse is now an illegal activity?  Did Mary Whitehouse pave the road to hell in your view?

[Mr Gray]

What on earth has that got to do with it? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I will always oppose anyone who seeks to stop others saying, reading or watching something just because they disapprove of it.

The law does exactly that... But sets limits. So you oppose the law

[Mr Gray]

What on earth has that got to do with it? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I will always oppose anyone who seeks to stop others saying, reading or watching something just because they disapprove of it.

And I will always, support an individuals right to appeal to the press to expose something they see, as, an injustice

[Venturi Swirl]

And I will always, support an individuals right to appeal to the press to expose something they see, as, an injustice

#metoo