The Defence Will State Their Case

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Defence Counsel: Then you sought employment? Where were you employed?
Tabak: My first employment was at Buro Happold in Bath, England.
Defence Counsel: Had you been to England before?
Tabak: Yes, on holiday several times.
Defence Counsel: And do you consider that you were fluent in English then?
Tabak: Yes.
Defence Counsel: When did you begin your employment at Buro Happold in Bath?
Tabak: I began in September 2007.
Defence Counsel: What was your job title at Buro Happold in 2007?
Tabak: I was employed as a people flow analyst.
Defence Counsel: What was your job title in 2010?
Tabak: People flow analyst.

Does that mean that Dr Vincent Tabak still worked for Buro Happold in 2010 ?? Or simply that he was still a "People Flow Analyst" in 2010??

He states his "First" employment was with..Buro Happold"... So he must have had  another?? Did Dr Vincent Tabak still work for Buro Happold in December 2010???

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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Defence Counsel: Where was the car?
Tabak: On the street.
Defence Counsel: Then you took the body out to the street?
Tabak: No. I backed the car into the drive.
Defence Counsel: Was the car facing Canynge Road?
Tabak: No. The back of the car was facing Canynge Road.

I couldn't see how this was possible before, But there is a way in which it could happen..

Did Dr Vincent Tabak actually live at 42, Canygne Road ??  It is the only property on the street where it would be possible to back a car off the street and still have the boot of the car facing Canygne Road..

Image attached ... I have circled both gates.... 

Would also make sense of the police arriving at 42,Canygne Road on the 31st December 2010, coincidentally the same day as Dr Vincent Tabak was being Interviewed in Holland...

Late on Friday Mr Stanley left his flat accompanied by a plain clothes detective. He drove his own maroon BMW car away from his home next door to the house where Miss Yeates lived.

The officer had been speaking to Mr Stanley inside his flat during the day. He emerged at 3.15pm with four large brown evidence bags which he put into his own car boot.

Ten minutes later he was seen carrying a laptop case and spare evidence bags. Less than 30 minutes later eight uniformed officers were driven into the road in two large vans.

Image 2: Showing the boot of Peter Stanleys car facing Canygne Road and a Police Officer guarding Peter Stanleys home....

Image 3:

A detective (centre) briefs police officers prior to leaving the home of Peter Stanley, 56, who lives in a flat in the mansion to the right of Chris Jefferies on Canynge Road and who worked to start the car of Joanna Yeates' boyfriend,...More

December 31, 2010 Licence

  The Detective is Jon Hook.....

What was the purpose of "Peter Stanley"??  He was of no evidentiary value to the trial.... Yet he's all over the media on a day the 'Dutchman" is being questioned...!!!


Peter Stanley has been strangley quiet too on this subject.... No Leveson for him.... So why the "Wall" of silence from "Peter Stanley"?????

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8234313/Joanna-Yeates-murder-neighbour-interviewed-by-police-over-boyfriends-flat-battery-incident.html

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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Ground Floor Flat... 44, Canygne Road.......

Land Registry sold prices
Ground Floor Flat, 44 Canynge Road, Bristol, City Of Bristol BS8 3LQ
Sale Date   Property   Price Paid   Source
05 Mar 1999   Flat, Leasehold   £97,500   Land Registry
30 Sep 1996   Flat, Leasehold   £61,500   Land Registry
17 Nov 1995   Flat, Leasehold   £73,500   Land Registry Previously listed on Rightmove on May 2017
1 bedroom property

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=65287373&sale=31580664&country=england


So is this the real layout for Joanna Yeates Flat???  Notice the bathroom has it's own window.... not at the bottom of any hallway...

Also the kitchen appears to be on a different level also....  What "staged Flat" did they show us????   This 'IS" The Ground Floor Flat.... So  what did we see as 'The Crime scene" ????

I have also attached the images incase these go Missing"...

Edit... Isn't this the property that CJ was supposed to have bought in 1999.... If that is the case... It has to be Flat 1.... So what does it say about Flat 1??

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CJ at The Leveson......

Mr Jay
Might it be said, if I could be forgiven for being devil's advocate, that the press couldn't have got this from the police because the police, had they leaked it to the press, would have said, "Mr Jefferies couldn't identify even whether it was a woman's voice, let alone Ms Yeates"? Do you see the point?

Mr Christopher Jefferies
Yes, I do see the point. There is a range of possibilities as far as the source of the information is concerned, including somebody who was not actually an officer to whom I had given the statement, who had seen the statement in any detail, but had nevertheless heard about it.

Who is CJ talking about ???? 

Is he talking Anne Reddrop ?? The Head of The Complex Crime Unit who was active on this case from late December 2010... So is that whom CJ is referring too as in the person whom was not an Officer to whom he had given the statement??

Who else could it be ??

Or one of the many members of 'Staff' and Voluntary Staff" that the Police used and use...

Wasn't it DC Karen Jones the person who took CJ's statement??? Is CJ referring to her not being an Officer??

http://leveson.sayit.mysociety.org/hearing-28-february-2012/mr-christopher-jefferies#s46278

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the presence of the aggravating factor is already reflected in the penalty for the offence and cannot be used as justification for increasing the sentence further.

How did Judge Field add extra years to Dr Vincent Tabaks sentence ???

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/item/aggravating-and-mitigating-factors/

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‘Some will describe their meetings and conversations with him over the following days.
Some talk of his normality, some the pressures and strains he was displaying. The police
saw him on a number of occasions and his behaviour is important. When alone at work or
at home his internet activity became ever more consumed, following news items as if
almost following the police investigation as it unfolded when Greg Reardon gives evidence
on Monday 17 October 2011.

Nigel Lickley continued:

‘Vincent Tabak put his hand around Jo Yeates's throat for 20 seconds to stop her
screaming’.

Now That first paragraph appears to be talking about Greg Reardon..... Am I mistaken??? Greg Reardon is not going to be giving evidence as to Dr Vincent Tabak's demeanour....

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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I want to go back to this post above....

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8060.msg438674#msg438674

This (imo) has to be the Flat that CJ bought... going from the dates of sale... And if that is the case, when did he buy the basement Flats??  It is not CJ's Flat.. we have seen CJ's Flat for sale before and the rooms are clearly bigger...

The bedroom from the advert is on the next floor, so is the kitchen and the bathroom... The sitting room must be on the next floor also... I presume by ground floor they must mean the floor where the front door is....  making that property the one above what we know as Flat 1... But....  The front room windows do not appear that long as the property above Flat 1....

Also missing is the alcoves.... why has the basement flat got alcoves when this Flat has none, thus taking up space, not needed..

What exactly is the basement Flat.... Was it really where Joanna Yeates lived...  Or is this the Flat that Dr Vincent Tabak lived in?? Did Dr Vincent Tabak rent his Flat from CJ ??? Thus Making the whole of the basement one Flat, which would explain why the media had already been taking video footage of the back of Canygne Road and images of the glass panelled door....

Also if this is the Flat that Dr Vincent Tabak lived in, then he wouldn't be passing Joanna Yeates kitchen window to go to the street.....

This Flat has to be the one that CJ refers to....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETW8z8kwB_A  at around 42 seconds...

Which Flats does CJ own or did CJ own in that building... 

(1): http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=65287373&sale=31580664&country=england  (The flat CJ should have bought)

(2): http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-27696067.html (Flat1)

(3): http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32871173.html (CJ's home)

(4): http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-29859883.html (Flat 2)

So which 3 properties from that list does CJ own ???  Am I correct in stating that the Basement Flat was just one Flat???  meaning Property 1 on the list is where Dr Vincent Tabak lived??



I'll just add a link to an old post ,where I try an establish who owns which flat....

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8056.msg418454#msg418454

Edit.... So am I back to the Bay window being Joanna yeates ??  The whole of the basement being Joanna yeates.... The basement where the bay windows were Forensically examined before Joanna yeates body had even been discovered... The glass panelled door being videoed by the news crew before Dr vincent Tabak was even a suspect... The snow all around showing that this was before Dr Vincent Tabak was a suspect... The Intercom panel still in place on Flat 1 which was removed on the 29th December 2010, the day before Dr Vincent Tabak or anyone else called the Police from Holland... No reason for the imagery of what they call Flat 2... It has to be Joanna yeates Flat (imo) meaning Dr Vincent Tabak didn't live there....



http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/police-forensics-officers-working-at-the-flat-that-yeates-news-footage/659296240

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/joanna-yeates-murder-trial-defendant-vincent-tabak-gives-news-footage/656385638



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Defence Counsel: Then you sought employment? Where were you employed?
Tabak: My first employment was at Buro Happold in Bath, England.

Defence Counsel: When did you begin your employment at Buro Happold in Bath?
Tabak: I began in September 2007.
Defence Counsel: What was your job title at Buro Happold in 2007?
Tabak: I was employed as a people flow analyst.
Defence Counsel: What was your job title in 2010?
Tabak: People flow analyst.

Defence Counsel: When did you leave for Los Angeles?
Tabak: I left for Los Angeles on 14 Nov and returned on 14 Dec 2010.

Now, I missed a trick here.... Skimming, I am still guilty of it....

Buro Happold....  Now Dr Vincent Tabak may have worked in the Bath Office... But I also believe that he worked in the Los Angeles Office... And that was the reason for his trip to America... He could well have been freelance for all we know....

As our anchor office on the West Coast, BuroHappold Los Angeles offers innovative integrated engineering services to the city’s world renowned design community. Since opening in 2006, the Los Angeles team has worked on a number of award winning projects around the world. Our significant local portfolio includes the city’s most iconic projects such as the Los Angeles County Museum of Art  Building for the Permanent Collection and the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures, currently under construction.

As the Los Angeles Office has been open since 2006, it is extremely possible that Dr Vincent Tabak was a regular visitor/worker at these Offices....

The Defence did not produce Dr Vincent Tabak's passport, or any ESTA(Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications for travel that Dr Vincent Tabak would have needed for his trip to America....

The Prosecution have always lead us to believe that they looked at Buro Happolds computers.... Well did they check the computers at the Los Angeles Office ???

I always had this vision of Dr Vincent Tabak sat in a little motel somewhere in the middle of nowhere with his own laptop and a Tv in the room....

Now Dr Vincent Tabak would not have needed to take his laptop with him to Los Angeles (imo).. There must be programs were he can access everything at the Bath office via a password... Therefore eliminating the need for a laptop... But whilst we envisage him sat bored in his hotel room emailing Tanja daily, we never stopped to think that he may have had another alternative access to the Internet.. That being by Buro hapolds own computers at their Los angeles Office ....

Brings a different complexion to things....

So did the prosecution produce Buro Happolds computers at trial.... NO!! Did they ever contact the Los Angeles Office .... NO!!  Whom in the Los Angeles Office could vouch for Dr Vincent Tabak and his behaviour ????  Who in the Los Angeles Office knew anything about Dr Vincent Tabak??? 

There is so much more to discover about Dr Vincent Tabak and his work, I believe we have just touched the edges....  Was Dr Vincent Tabak actually in the country when Joanna yeates and Greg Reardon moved into Canygne Road ???? How do we know he was ????

A man who travels for his work.... goes to different Buro happold Offices around the world, and we do not know whether or not he was in England when these two people moved into Canygne Road....

How comes I still have questions??/ Are these not the type of things that The Defence should have been cross referencing ???

Now Buro Happold is an "Engineering Firm"... They are NOT architects... I had that word stuck in my head for years...  If Buro Happold were architects they would have made it to the AJ100... http://aj100.architectsjournal.co.uk/view/overview/2010/view.aspx

And of course they are NOT there.... But as firms they do team building exercises .... And Buro Happold do partake in these activities, which the likes of BDP do attend....

Now I know many people have said in the past that it was wuite possiblre for either Greg Reardon or Joanna Yeates to come into contact with Dr Vincent Tabak because of ..

(A): Their work would need collaboration, and it was possible for them to get togethr..

(B): A Team Building exercise, where both companies where involved...

But.. what if Dr Vincent Tabak was out of the country a lot of the time working at various Buro Happold Offices around the world, he would more than likely have not come into contact with them because of his absence, rather than any other reason ....

Now how many "People Flow Analyist did Buro Happold employ at their Bath Office ?????

Because we have a lady by the name of JINU VARUGHESE
Senior People Flow Analyst Bath.... (2010)

Jinu is a Senior People Flow Analyst within the Smart Space team at BuroHappold, with extensive technical knowledge and modelling experience on various projects involving flow of passengers, pedestrians and crowds, in sectors ranging from cultural to sport stadia, and particular expertise in the education sector.

After completing a Bachelor’s degree in Architecture and a Master’s degree in Construction Management, Jinu joined BuroHappold in 2010, being inspired from her thesis relating to people movement behaviour in buildings. Since joining BuroHappold, Jinu has been leading the technical analysis in people movement projects and helping clients design buildings optimised for people flow.

She has been working in her position since 2010.... 

So what of Dr Vincent Tabak???? What was he doing in 2010 in Bath??? I am not sure he worked for the Bath Office anymore... He very well could have worked abroad....  Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to be so good at his job that he helped everyone in the Office... Well why have we a Jinu there also... How many "People Flow Analysts " of a senior or any position do "Buro Happold " employee in any Office ??

Jinu didn't testify to knowing Dr Vincent Tabak or that they worked together in the Bath Office .... 

Tabak: I had been working on a very big project- A Holy Mosque in Mecca- I was doing
some analysis on it – the flow of pilgrims to the Holy Mosque. This was a project that
Buro Happold was tendering for.

Dubai
Rolex Tower
OF3001
30/F DIFC
Sheikh Zayed Road

+971 (0) 4 518 4000
info.dubai@burohappold.com

Abu Dhabi
Office 512, 5th Floor
Al Khazna Tower
Al Najda St.
Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirates

+971 (2) 6711127 ext. 312

I Cannot find this Mosque Dr Vincent Tabak was working on...  But why aren't the Offices nearer to Mecca doing the work?? Did Dr Vincent Tabak ever work at these other Offices ???

The trial gives us very little insight into Dr Vincent Tabak... It allows us to believe that he just gets up every morning and cycles to work and that is it... When in reality i believe that his job was far more complex than that...

So who truly knew and worked with Dr Vincent Tabak??? Maybe the people who could vouch for his character lived far and wide across the world... And that didn't come into "The Base Metal Service" that The Defence allowed....

Edit.... Did Dr Vincent Tabak travel alone when he went to Los Angeles... Or was he accompanied by another Buro Happold employee????


https://www.burohappold.com/contact/

http://www.gcsolutionsltd.co.uk/index.php/our-projects/12d-design/129-mecca-saudi-arabia

https://www.burohappold.com/people/jinu-varughese-2/

https://www.burohappold.com/contact/office/los-angeles/

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf

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I Cannot find this Mosque Dr Vincent Tabak was working on... 

It's just as well you aren't a Muslim! The Holy Mosque at Mecca is where every Muslim tries to make a pilgrimage at least once in his/her life. It is an enormous place. What is more, Saudi Binladin Group is the sole contractor for all the building work that goes on there. It's a site with enormous flows of pilgrims, and VT's group were tendering for the contract to model their flows.

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It's just as well you aren't a Muslim! The Holy Mosque at Mecca is where every Muslim tries to make a pilgrimage at least once in his/her life. It is an enormous place. What is more, Saudi Binladin Group is the sole contractor for all the building work that goes on there. It's a site with enormous flows of pilgrims, and VT's group were tendering for the contract to model their flows.

No i am not being ignorant... I am trying to find what happened in 2010..... I have this ....

https://www.burohappold.com/projects/jabal-omar-development-project/

But that 2016

Ans this http://www.gcsolutionsltd.co.uk/index.php/our-projects/12d-design/129-mecca-saudi-arabia

2014

I was just trying to identify what he was referring to....

Or we have a high speed rail link....

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20111117-the-futurist-saudi-arabia-to-get-high-speed-rail

2011

i was just trying to find the exact project.....

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When The Yeates make their appeal on the 18th January 2011, they believe that Joanna Yeates was acquainted with her killer... There must be a reason for them to believe this... Dr Vincent Tabak apparently did not know Joanna Yeates... no acquaintance in any shape or form...

Please help us to identify the killer, Jo was probably acquainted with her killer , we are sure that the killer will be brought to justice

And on the 20th January 2011 Dr Vincent Tabak is arrested.... with what "evidence" I have never been able to establish!

Seeing as Dr Vincent Tabak could not gain access to Flat 1.. They did not know his movements at this time... There was NO Forensics connecting him to Flat 1.. Dr Vincent Tabak didn't know Joanna Yeates...

They had less evidence against Dr Vincent Tabak when they arrested him than they had against CJ when they arrested him in December.... With CJ we knew he had the keys to the Flat.. But what did Dr Vincent Tabak have or do for the Police to arrest him on the 20th January 2011... Any evidence they apparently had against him never made it to trial!


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/man-arrested-lib-int-david-and-teresa-yeates-chris-yeates-news-footage/655516924

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William Clegg

Tabak's barrister, William Clegg QC, began his speech by telling the jury members he was not going to ask them to like Tabak. "There's nothing to like," he said.

Nor did he ask them to have any sympathy for the Dutch engineer. "He deserves none," Clegg said. He added that there would be no excuses for Tabak's "disgusting" behaviour in hiding Yeates's body as he tried to get away with the crime.

Clegg said he realised Tabak would lose a popularity contest, but he told the jury they had to return a verdict that reflected the evidence.

Tabak's barrister went on to challenge the idea that the attack was premeditated. He said evidence that Yeates invited Tabak into the flat caused the prosecution "a great deal of trouble" and "destroyed" the notion the attack was planned. He added that Tabak could not have known Yeates was alone until he was asked in.

Watched by members of Yeates's family, Clegg asked the jury to reject the theory that it was a sex attack. He reminded the panel that a pathologist, Nat Cary, had described this as speculation.

Clegg told the jury that Yeates had died of cardiac arrest caused by obstruction to her airways. This was, he argued, a "very short, fast-moving incident". He also described it as a flash, a few seconds of madness.

Clegg suggested his client's inability to remember exactly what happened was the result of trauma. Twice Clegg reminded the jurors of their oath to try Tabak on the evidence put before them.

He concluded by telling them that they had much to reflect on, asking: "Has the prosecution proved to you that he had the intention the law demands before a man can be convicted of murder?"

Apart from the distain Clegg shows for his client, how did the Jury come to a guilty verdict... If it was based on what the Prosecution said....

Now what was contained in the 1300 page document??? Was The porn still there???  did the jury see that ???Because the Prosecution proved nothing at trial....(imo)... They had NO EVIDENCE to connect Dr Vincent Tabak to Joanna Yeates.... No timestamps nothing....


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/26/vincent-tabak-joanna-yeates-trial

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In a statement that never mentioned Tabak by name they said: "We attended the trial of Jo's murderer not to see justice handed out to him but to find out as much as we could about what really happened. We never considered this trial as a process of 'Justice for Jo'.

"There was never any doubt in our mind that Jo had been murdered and we fully expected him to lie if he went into the witness box. We came here with little hope or expectation of hearing what happened on 17 December, but needed to see him and hear what he had to say first hand.

So who were they hoping to hear??? Obviously not Dr Vincent Tabak.... As they said... They never considered this trial as a process of "Justice for Jo"...  Well I agree with them on that score.... I believe the information that was contained within the trial, was something close to what took place, but It wasn't Dr Vincent Tabak's words... Or searches, or texts.. (imo)!  I think you all should really consider what the Yeates mean when they say that they "Never considered this trial as a process of 'justice for Jo"..." Because I believe it speaks volumes....

Also they never mention Dr Vincent Tabak by name... also telling.... I believe their statement was directed at someone else entirely... (imo)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/joanna-yeates-murder-vincent-tabak

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On Friday 17th December 2010, CCTV captured pictures showing Joanna Yeates and Greg Reardon setting off for work through the snow.

Have you any images of this leonora.... Is there anyway in which you could describe what was on the CCTV footage??  Where are the images taken from???

If they had these images from Canygne Road... why didn't they show Dr Vincent Tabaks movements on Canygne Road....???

Are we sure that the images are from Friday 17th December 2010 and not the Saturday or a day when it had snowed???


http://vincent-tabak-is-innocent.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/boyfriend.html