CJ Leveson statement...
This was that one evening, which
might have been Friday 17 December 2010, as I was coming back from fine gym at
about 9pm, I had parked my car on the road and was just walking through the gates of
the main driveway, when I became aware of what sounded like two or perhaps three
people leaving by the side gate on the other side of the house
CJ's TV statements in "Countdown to Murder program"
From the program Countdown to Murder... at 27:41 of the video
As I was on my way out to the gym, quite by chance, erm I met Vincent Tabak and we had a very brief conversation, erm and he seemed to be in quite an elated mood and was saying what a very beautiful evening it was erm, this light dusting of snow, erm thats all the conversation consisted of...
Tweet from the trial..
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#Tabak told police he had seen landlord Chris Jefferies on the night of 17th Dec as he returned from a walk in the snow.
6:54 am - 18 Oct 2011
https://twitter.com/HarrietTolputt/status/126295120072032256So Both CJ and Dr Vincent Tabak had the same answer..... No implication....
Then at 28:45 of the video
Vincent Tabak helped me move the car that morning, erm, becawse, there was snow on the drive, and I need some help, in the car being pushed up.. erm, the slight incline, erm, from the parking area onto the main part of the drive,, so that I could get the car out.Er, when I thanked Vincent for er, doing that for me, erm, his reply was,.. well what are neighbours for
I have stated that Dr Vincent Tabak didn't lie... CJ himself explains here that Dr Vincent Tabak didn't lie,
I've come back to this because of a Times article.... I haven't subscribed to The Times, so I have only what you can see on the page....
Tabak’s bid to blame Jo Yeates’s landlord led to his own arrest
October 29 2011, 1:01am,
The Times
Vincent Tabak’s victims did not just include Jo Yeates, her parents and her boyfriend. His entirely innocent landlord, who had been arrested for a murder he did not commit, had his ordeal prolonged because of lies told by Tabak.
Christopher Jefferies, a 65-year-old retired public school master with eccentrically wispy white hair, was questioned for three days. While he was in police custody Tabak, who was in Holland spending new year with his family, told police that his landlord’s Volvo had been moved on the night of Jo’s murder, something Mr Jefferies would have denied.
Tabak offered to make a statement on his return to the UK at the beginning of January but to his surprise two detectives immediately flew to the Netherlands to take…
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tabaks-bid-to-blame-jo-yeatess-landlord-led-to-his-own-arrest-h2lnbpkcvjwTwo points about the article... Whoever wrote this article appears to know what CJ would have stated...
* Tabak, who was in Holland spending new year with his family, told police that his landlord’s Volvo had been moved on the night of Jo’s murder, something Mr Jefferies would have denied.How would The Times Know that CJ would have denied this happening.... I believe CJ explains what happened when he saw Dr Vincent Tabak and what he told the Leveson, therefore I conclude that the car had moved from the road onto the drive.. But the volvo, wasn't the only car that CJ had access too, and in Dr Vincent Tabak's statement/phone call he doesn't say the type of car, he just states car... Maybe CJ needs to state which car he drove that evening to avoid confusion... Or is The Times article telling us CJ didn't drive the Volvo that evening , but the other car... We know that 2 cars were taken from the drive of Canygne Road, when CJ was arrested...
The other point is:
* Tabak offered to make a statement on his return to the UK at the beginning of January but to his surprise two detectives immediately flew to the Netherlands to take…Dr Vincent Tabak offering to make said statement on his return to the UK,... I have always questioned why this didn't happen, but now I am questioning how The Times were aware that Dr Vincent Tabak offered to make a statement on his return to the UK??
I cannot find anything on the internet that states this was what Dr Vincent Tabak had said, and wondered where The Times got their information from...
Again back to these statements of CJ's...
As I was on my way out to the gym, quite by chance, erm I met Vincent Tabak and we had a very brief conversation, Then......
told police that his landlord’s Volvo had been moved on the night of Jo’s murder, Dr Vincent Tabak does not say what time these events happened, and the two statements in themselves prove that what apparently Dr Vincent Tabak said was accurate... The car had moved...
We do not know the time of the conversation or whether or not Dr Vincent Tabak was arriving or leaving the building at the time he saw CJ... We do not know how long Dr Vincent Tabak was outside, and we do not know if Dr Vincent Tabak was still outside when CJ went to the gym...
So of course the car had moved on the night of the 17th December 2010, because CJ went to the GYM... CJ tells us so in his Leveson statement and the program he confirms that he saw Dr Vincent Tabak on his way out to the gym...
We do not know what questions that were put to Dr Vincent Tabak by the police in relation to CJ's movements.... As far as Dr Vincent Tabak was aware, when he arrived home from work, CJ's car could have been in the drive, then when he and Tanja returned after Dr Vincent Tabak had collected her from the party, the car was on the road, showing that CJ had gone out that evening... And CJ confirming that he indeed went out that evening in his Leveson statement...
We do not know how long Dr Vincent Tabak was outside when he spoke to CJ, simply he could have seen CJ leave in his car after the brief conversation... This is bugging me now.... The car situation, is bugging me...
The Police must have contacted Dr Vincent Tabak, to verify what ever answers CJ gave when he was being questioned at the Police station... I believe this is why Dr Vincent Tabak talks of the car... They could have asked him where CJ's car was parked.... They could have asked him if he saw CJ at all that weekend or evening...
I believe that they went to coroberate what information CJ gave at The Police station ,when he was being interviewed...
Tanja we are told rings the Police after CJ's arrest and informs them about the car, they also speak to Dr Vincent Tabak... And the difference between Tanja and Dr Vincent Tabak is... Tanja would have seen where the car was when she left for the party and when she returned from the party... Or whether or not the car was there earlier on that evening before she left...
But..CJ, doesn't mention seeing Tanja... She has never said she saw CJ...
Dr Vincent Tabak on the other hand by CJ's own statement apparently spoke to him that evening... So I would say that Dr Vincent Tabak was CJ's witness, and the Police wanted THIS information immediately, to see if CJ was telling them the truth... In a signed statement from Dr Vincent Tabak.... Now we do not know if Dr Vincent Tabak signed anything that the Police took notes on when they interviewed him in Holland.... So we cannot say for a fact what Dr Vincent Tabak told the Police the same version of events as CJ has told us... But the tweet above tells us that Dr Vincent Tabak did indeed see CJ and it was mentioned at trial....
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DC Thomas: After landlord Christopher Jefferies arrested, Tabak rang police from Holland. He now "remembered" seeing CJ's car that night.
6:55 am - 17 Oct 2011
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Joanna Yeates murder trial: Pros says Tabak called police to report movement of neighbour/landlord Chris Jefferies's car movement
7:39 am - 10 Oct 2011
https://twitter.com/skymartinbrunt/status/123407313582305280Depending how ones reads the tweets or interprets what they should mean, when one is on trial, they appear damning,, yet I believe Dr Vincent Tabak was telling the police what he knew, and again by CJ's own admission the car had moved obviously as he had gone to the gym.. And that Dr Vincent Tabak had indeed seen CJ that evening..
So how did Dr Vincent Tabak lie about the car??
How was he supposed to have implicated CJ.... The Times tells us..
His entirely innocent landlord, who had been arrested for a murder he did not commit, had his ordeal prolonged because of lies told by Tabak. What lies??
We have the car moving that evening and the next day, we have the mention that Dr Vincent Tabak saw CJ and these are the only statement I know of, but they wasn't a lie as I have demonstrated.. And by CJ's own admissions..
This next flummoxing statement..
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Tabak offered to make a statement on his return to the UK at the beginning of January That statement in itself shows that what Dr Vincent Tabak had to say about CJ's car was unimportant, he shows that by his offer of what he knew about CJ's movements that evening/weekend could wait until he came back to the UK, it was not important enough to have the Police fly out to see him in Holland..
Far from him wanting to implicate CJ, I believe he was CJ's alibi as to CJ's movements, as The Police had CJ under arrest at that time. I believe the Police spoke to anyone whom had seen CJ that weekend..(imo)
Had The Times been the only source of information that knew that Dr Vincent Tabak had offered to give his statement about the car on his return to the UK??
If anyone has access to the full story at The Times and whom wrote it, I would appreciate if you could copy and paste, also if you don't mind screenshot the article also... And of course any other publication speaking of Dr Vincent Tabak offering to make a statement on his return to the UK....
