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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3990 on: May 08, 2019, 08:17:21 AM »
What a very strange way they have at looking at this whole case. Fingers can be pointed in every direction but never in his!

People are wrong for running, searching commenting not commenting but him with his disgusting porn lies and his inability to control himself however he came to be in Jo's flat that is ok because for some reason they want to think he couldnt possibly have done this.

No one knew that side to him that was eventually revealed. He knows he is a monster and that is why he never challenged his conviction, he just thought he was smart enough to get away with it!

Who's pointing fingers?

We know of several people to do with this case, we no not of their movements to the fullest extent, we could eliminate all of them..(we don't know)

Who's to say it is not an entirely different person who killed Joanna Yeates, other than all the people we heard about in the beginning in the media or on social media at the time..

Without knowing who saw whom, at what point in time, a proper timeline can not be established..

Without an accurate time of death, how can can it be established on which day Joanna Yeates died??

Joanna Yeates time of death comes from the story on the stand, but where is the medical evidence that gives a time of death, and how many days she may have been dead for?

It has been stated that I pick and chose, which bits I want to believe, but in return the same can be said about the story on the stand,... The only part of the story anyone seemed interested in, was that Dr Vincent Tabak said he was responsible for Joanna Yeates death..  And everyone is happy he says that meaning to everyone he killed her...



jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3991 on: May 08, 2019, 08:23:48 AM »
You have to be joking? A young woman died, what do you want people to be interested in? You dont just pick and choose, you point blank refuse to accept ANY of the many points that prove he is guilty

You know better than Tabak. He confessed to killing her , he confessed to the child porn and yet you still choose to refuse to accept his word

You casually throw Joint Enterprise into the mix... many scenarios but you are unable to accept the real one!

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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3993 on: May 08, 2019, 09:12:32 AM »
Ok Jixy... lets say he viewed porn.... 

I am trying to establish how it was even possible for him to kill Joanna yeates...

People have many disgusting habits, we can't put them all in prison for that reason.... If they have done an act that constitutes a custodial sentence, then prison it will be...

But you cannot and should not put someone in prison for a crime they have not committed..

Ok lets say the child images are true.... (Shocking that type of behaviour)

He needs to be charged for that....

If he is charged for a crime he didn't commit, it means whom ever really committed said crime has gotten away with it...

And that's the point....  Just because he said a story on the stand that doesn't really add up and everyone has accepted said story, doesn't mean it is true ...

Thinking of reasons why he may have admitted responsibility...

* He could have been covering for someone else....

* He could have been tricked into believing he was responsible

* He could have hacked computers in another country and didn't want to be extradited (unlikely)

* He  may know who did it

* He could have been arrested and to be charged under joint enterprise (killers was a term used)

* Or he maybe just that geek whom has done nothing and got wrapped up in this... and doesn't know his arse from
  his elbow, unable to answer over 80 questions..


There may be other reasons, I do not know... But really my point being, you need to have the right person in prison for the right crime.... The Case isn't therefore done and dusted... Justice has not been done...

As the real killer is walking around free, and may do it again, knowing that they have already gotten away with it...
It doesn't make the streets safer, and it doesn't make someone elses daughter safer..

Yes, it may help to clear the crime rate up, but that is just a fallacy...(imo)
He Could have done this, he could have done that,   He could have chose to not kill Joanna, he didn’t, you base your theories on thin air and You have two parts of a brain, 'left' and 'right'. In the left side, there's nothing right. In the right side, there's nothing left.

You produce zero evidence to back up yours  and only your theories, your clueless on the law and criminal justice system, you show nothing but contempt for poor Joanna and anyone associated with her, you pry into people’s private life’s and talk nothing but garbage.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3994 on: May 08, 2019, 09:21:45 AM »
I went looking for this video and nearly failed to find it, the links to the ITN webpage say that the video doesn't exist.

https://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-09-16/christopher-jefferies-joanna-yeates-exoneration/

https://www.itv.com/news/topic/christopher-jefferies/

But fortunately I did find it on youtube... And decided to transcribe it incase that video goes Missing..
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Transcript of Interview CJ and Chief Constable Nick Gargan..


CJ:
The Letter certainly acknowledges that they could have done things differently, err.. one of the things which they could have done differently, was to make it absolutely certain at the time that I was released from Police Bail, that they accepted that I was entirely innocent and played no part whatsoever , erm... In the Murder Of Jo Yeates.

Erm.. They could probably at that point also have acknowledged the very considerable distress which I had to experience as a result of the length of time that I remained on Police Bail, which was some 6 weeks after Vincent Tabak was originally arrested and charged.


Nick Gargan:
It's not a letter of apology, it is a letter that acknowledges that things might have been done differently. The situation is very clear, the arrest of Christopher Jefferies was integral and necessary part of the investigation and I've no criticism of that decision. Er.. Nor indeed the way in which it was carried out.

On reflection, in the light of our conversation with Mr Jefferies since, what we have come to realise, is that we might have been quicker in making it clear that he was no longer a suspect.

Now it's not ordinary Police practice, to release details, a press release to say that someone isn't a suspect anymore. But then again this wasn't an ordinary case and Mr Jefferies, had been subjected to a campaign of vilification in the press,. It was within our gift to reduce that by making an earlier announcement that he was no longer a suspect and on reflection we think that er.. we think that might have been done.


CJ:
There are several things, it erm.. first of all provides the public exculpation, which is the equivalent of the apology the newspapers that I sued had to make when they appeared at the High Court in the Summer of 2011,.. Urm... That acknowledges, it is something the Police had not done before. It acknowledges er, the very considerable distress, which all this caused. Erm... and it someway I think, at least implicitly, towards acknowledging that it did just effect me, it effected members of my family, it effected friends. So they were also to a degree, victims as well as i was.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6waChhMuRU

But then again this wasn't an ordinary case

There you go... no ordinary case.... What was so extraordinary about it??  Everyones happy with the story on the stand, murder or manslaughter..... Yet Chief Constable Nick Gargan tells us some years later that this was no ordinary case... Why is that then?? Sounds ordinary enough if you believe the tale on the stand and the admission of guilt..

Why all this hoo har surrounding this case, if it is ordinary, if a Chief Constable is telling us to camera that it wasn't an ordinary case.

Gives more reason to question why!! (imo)

jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3995 on: May 08, 2019, 09:29:17 AM »
No ordinary case not because Tabak is innocent!!! but because another poor man was hounded and hounded!!!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3996 on: May 08, 2019, 09:35:35 AM »


I could take from that, that it not existing means it was made up... It depends on how ones interprets these things!

But I have linked the interview, and the first title on the interview is from "The Guardian"...

So i do not know why ITV states it doesn't exist.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3998 on: May 08, 2019, 09:45:50 AM »
No ordinary case not because Tabak is innocent!!! but because another poor man was hounded and hounded!!!

Ok... But questions need to be answered...

The situation is very clear, the arrest of Christopher Jefferies was integral and necessary part of the investigation and I've no criticism of that decision. Er.. Nor indeed the way in which it was carried out.

Why was it integral and necessary part of the investigation to arrest CJ??

That should relate directly to Dr Vincent Tabak..... surely

Are Dr Vincent Tabak and CJ related ?  I'm trying to understand why arresting CJ whom it has been shown is wholly innocent was an integral and necessary part of the investigation ...

What other reason could there be for CJ arrest to be an integral and necessary part of the investigation???


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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3999 on: May 08, 2019, 09:48:42 AM »
“pulling a ‘switcheroo
https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/youre-not-going-to-crazy-make-me-why-i-wont-be-making-sense-out-of-nonsense-and-you-shouldnt-either/

So who was the switcheroo in this case??

Is a Switchaaroo an offical Police Procedure??  @)(++(*

Yes... i have been trying to make sense out of nonsense for a very long time..

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switcheroo noun
switch·​er·​oo | \ ˌswi-chə-ˈrü  \
plural switcheroos
Definition of switcheroo
: a surprising variation : REVERSAL
Examples of switcheroo in a Sentence
 They changed to a different system without telling anyone that they had pulled a switcheroo.

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But moments like Rick’s death switcheroo are pure P. T. Barnum — manufactured almost entirely out of hype.
— Bryan Bishop, The Verge, "The Walking Dead has condemned itself for all time," 5 Nov. 2018
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/switcheroo

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4000 on: May 08, 2019, 09:56:06 AM »


I could take from that, that it not existing means it was made up... It depends on how ones interprets these things!

But I have linked the interview, and the first title on the interview is from "The Guardian"...

So i do not know why ITV states it doesn't exist.
Without doing any research, I would say it’s been archived and they want you to pay for it.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4001 on: May 08, 2019, 09:57:06 AM »
Without doing any research, I would say it’s been archived and they want you to pay for it.

Thanks for that Real...  8)--)) Maybe the answer is as simple as that, but i am not chasing it around to find out...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4002 on: May 08, 2019, 10:05:54 AM »
Ok... But questions need to be answered...

The situation is very clear, the arrest of Christopher Jefferies was integral and necessary part of the investigation and I've no criticism of that decision. Er.. Nor indeed the way in which it was carried out.

Why was it integral and necessary part of the investigation to arrest CJ??

That should relate directly to Dr Vincent Tabak..... surely

Are Dr Vincent Tabak and CJ related ?  I'm trying to understand why arresting CJ whom it has been shown is wholly innocent was an integral and necessary part of the investigation ...

What other reason could there be for CJ arrest to be an integral and necessary part of the investigation???
Yes CJ is an undercover Dutch Librarian, they are both from the planet “Billy Bungalow”


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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4004 on: May 08, 2019, 10:07:25 AM »
Thanks for that Real...  8)--)) Maybe the answer is as simple as that, but i am not chasing it around to find out...
Oh please do Billy, give us a rest  8)><( 8)><( 8)><(