The Defence Will State Their Case

[nina]

I'm not sure that it was that night that 3 people were seen or heard, but if it was there was an unofficial short cut through if you cut across the sports fields of Clifton College. That was still open in 2010 but not now. I used to use it myself.

[Real justice]

I'm not sure that it was that night that 3 people were seen or heard, but if it was there was an unofficial short cut through if you cut across the sports fields of Clifton College. That was still open in 2010 but not now. I used to use it myself.

Thanks for that Nina, I don’t think a lot was made of it anyway

[Real justice]

Absolutely. I think we can safely say that VT went to work, to Asda, and to pick up Tanja from her works party. I have no problem with any of this. However, I do have a problem with the CCTV in Asda missing its timestamp.

So we only have to sort the in between bits out then,  OH wait a minute, didn’t Tabak himself tell us what he did?

[nina]

Didn't VT go to Asda twice? If so he went to work, came home, went to Asda, went home watched porn and murdered Joanna, went to Asda with Joanna in the boot of the car, then dumped Joanna, picked up girlfriend and had a burger on the Downs. That I believe was how VT spent his night.

[Real justice]

Didn't VT go to Asda twice? If so he went to work, came home, went to Asda, went home watched porn and murdered Joanna, went to Asda with Joanna in the boot of the car, then dumped Joanna, picked up girlfriend and had a burger on the Downs. That I believe was how VT spent his night.

I don’t know about twice Nina I only thought they had him once, so we are more or less all agreed he couldn’t have been in Amsterdam like Billy said?  Then I think you’ve got the rest spot on Nina.

[nina]

I thought that he first went to Asda for rock salt and something to eat, but I guess you could be right. All the rubbish that Billy has posted over the years has got me quite confused about events. I mean it was NINE years ago !!

[nina]

I think we all agree, apart from one, that VT was not in Amsterdam on the 17/12/2010.

[Real justice]

I thought that he first went to Asda for rock salt and something to eat, but I guess you could be right. All the rubbish that Billy has posted over the years has got me quite confused about events. I mean it was NINE years ago !!

Hes very vague about the Asda at first, saying he went when he came home from work, then he can’t remeber times ect, they point out that he was on CCTV at I think 10.13 pm and ask him why he went, he said it must have been upon his original plan? 

Defence Counsel: Look at our timeline 90-96. Why did you go to the Asda supermarket? Tabak: I was not thinking straight. I think I took upon my original plan to go to Asda.

[Real justice]

Hes very vague about the Asda at first, saying he went when he came home from work, then he can’t remeber times ect, they point out that he was on CCTV at I think 10.13 pm and ask him why he went, he said it must have been upon his original plan? 

Defence Counsel: Look at our timeline 90-96. Why did you go to the Asda supermarket? Tabak: I was not thinking straight. I think I took upon my original plan to go to Asda.

I think personally he was going to go, but other things took over so he went later with Joanna in his boot and got the rock salt ect this is what he was going to fetch earlier.

[Real justice]

I thought that he first went to Asda for rock salt and something to eat, but I guess you could be right. All the rubbish that Billy has posted over the years has got me quite confused about events. I mean it was NINE years ago !!

[Real justice]

Hes very vague about the Asda at first, saying he went when he came home from work, then he can’t remeber times ect, they point out that he was on CCTV at I think 10.13 pm and ask him why he went, he said it must have been upon his original plan? 

Defence Counsel: Look at our timeline 90-96. Why did you go to the Asda supermarket? Tabak: I was not thinking straight. I think I took upon my original plan to go to Asda.

He sent this to Tanya from Asda that coincided with the timeline 10.13pm ish

Defence Counsel: At our timeline 100, you sent a text message to Tanja ‘How are you? I am at Asda. Buying some crisis.’ How did you feel?

[mrswah]

I thought that he first went to Asda for rock salt and something to eat, but I guess you could be right. All the rubbish that Billy has posted over the years has got me quite confused about events. I mean it was NINE years ago !!

There's nobody on here called Billy, nina.  He's a figment of RJ's imagination!  Good to see you back, by the way.

[mrswah]

Thanks for that Nina, I don’t think a lot was made of it anyway

I find it strange that this wasn't investigated more thoroughly, to be honest. The result seems to have been the arrest of CJ. You would think that people giving extra information to the police would be accorded more respect.  CJ thought he had seen/heard these people near Joanna's flat, after all.  He knew the area very well, and would have known about the short cut.  I wonder why the police didn't follow this up.

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Staying with the idea that Dr Vincent Tabak may have been in Amsterdam, even though people do not agree, after finding this on twitter from the time I thought I would add it..

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Due to weather conditions in AMS on 16 and 17 December 2010, some of our flights to, from or via Schiphol may be delayed or cancelled

6:55 am - 16 Dec 2010

https://twitter.com/KLM/status/15419647402713089

Delayed flights etc....

If Dr Vincent Tabak's version of events are muddled, and there is NO way in which to determine whether or not  Joanna Yeates was killed on the 17/12/2010. It is feasible he may have been returning from the Airport, when he was on a business trip.

Just a thought...

Darragh tells us he had difficulty leaving Bristol because of cancelled flights,

Darragh Harry Bellew
22 December 2010 ·
Flight cancelled and the only available flight is christmas eve.

if i can help with regard to Jo please let me know as i am now here for a couple of days in bristol.

Can everyone please read their emails on facebook that i sent them regarding Joanna Yeates. Thank you

His friends response

Emma Colebrook Hey darragh, got your mail and just heard about her on radio 4 news, not got anything useful to add to the search, but very much hope there's some good news for jo and her family soon. Hope you get home for christmas too! Happy christmas mate, Em Si and Gus x

Had Joanna Yeates gone somewhere?

They don't find her until Christmas Day...  Honestly she could have flown somewhere herself that weekend, who's to say?

I do not understand how everyone says that Joanna Yeates was MISSING from 17/12/2010

What proved that was the case??

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I find it strange that this wasn't investigated more thoroughly, to be honest. The result seems to have been the arrest of CJ. You would think that people giving extra information to the police would be accorded more respect.  CJ thought he had seen/heard these people near Joanna's flat, after all.  He knew the area very well, and would have known about the short cut.  I wonder why the police didn't follow this up.

Did CJ mention the shortcut?? 

I thought he would have been quite vigilant at that time... He was part of the neighbourhood watch..


And if anyone could use the shortcut... anyone had an opportunity...

If there's a short cut used regularly, I'm surprised that CJ didn't have CCTV cameras around the place to be honest...