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Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4725 on: May 31, 2019, 12:28:27 PM »
Does Dr Vincent Tabak speak Korean? is that what you are trying to say??
He’s got ample time to learn it  8@??)(

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4726 on: May 31, 2019, 12:41:06 PM »
Interpretation of the law and application of the law to charges brought against an individual is paramount..

I believe that the law concerning Joint Enterprise has been Misinterpreted for decades, and The Jogee Ruling, which highlighted this failure, should have since made a huge difference, But the wheels of Justice move slowly...

I am applying a principle and just questioning whether there has been a misinterpretation of the law...

https://justice.org.uk/r-v-jogee-appellant/

Another reason I wondered if Dr Vincent tabak was originally arrested under joint enterprise... Seeing as they had stated they were looking for killers and had then arrested CJ...

Knowing Dr Vincent Tabak had assisted CJ in moving the car, I asked if that was where the pressure came from that could have been applied to Dr Vincent Tabak in the first place....

Just looking for clarity....


jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4727 on: May 31, 2019, 12:42:37 PM »
Interpretation of the law and application of the law to charges brought against an individual is paramount..

I believe that the law concerning Joint Enterprise has been Misinterpreted for decades, and The Jogee Ruling, which highlighted this failure, should have since made a huge difference, But the wheels of Justice move slowly...

I am applying a principle and just questioning whether there has been a misinterpretation of the law...

https://justice.org.uk/r-v-jogee-appellant/

Another reason I wondered if Dr Vincent tabak was originally arrested under joint enterprise... Seeing as they had stated they were looking for killers and had then arrested CJ...

Knowing Dr Vincent Tabak had assisted CJ in moving the car, I asked if that was where the pressure came from that could have been applied to Dr Vincent Tabak in the first place....

Just looking for clarity....


How much more time are you going to waste trying to find excuses for his behaviour. Call it whatever you want it doesnt change what he is
« Last Edit: May 31, 2019, 01:03:20 PM by jixy »

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4728 on: May 31, 2019, 12:44:02 PM »

How much more time are you going to waste trying to find excuses for his behaviour. Call it whaatever you want it doesnt change what he is

Not looking for excuses, trying to understand a case that makes no sense whatsoever.... (imo) of course...

And someone is only what they are , if the law is used properly... And not cast doubt on interpretation...

jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4729 on: May 31, 2019, 12:45:35 PM »
Not looking for excuses, trying to understand a case that makes no sense whatsoever.... (imo) of course...

Its clear that you are. He accessed porn, he paid left his credit card details and then admitted his vile actions. Why you keep debating it is beyond me.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4730 on: May 31, 2019, 12:49:13 PM »
Its clear that you are. He accessed porn, he paid left his credit card details and then admitted his vile actions. Why you keep debating it is beyond me.
What is beyond you I cannot make comment upon, seeing as I am not au fait with yourself...

And whomever is in prison for a crime ... they need to be there because THAT was the crime they committed...

Offline nina

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4731 on: May 31, 2019, 12:58:54 PM »
Quote
Didn't we cover that before... That if you had the ability to make images of pseudo porn, a charge could be brought... I think if I remember correctly I did indicate that most had the ability to do this seeing as "Paint" was a built in program... And with the evolution of many apps that can change an image, it can cover everyone in that capacity...

No `we' didn't cover this before.

I'm asking you as a person who has said you have a family. What do you really think about VT making his own porn, as well as watching snuff and child porn?

jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4732 on: May 31, 2019, 01:04:09 PM »
What is beyond you I cannot make comment upon, seeing as I am not au fait with yourself...

And whomever is in prison for a crime ... they need to be there because THAT was the crime they committed...

He is there for BOTH of them thankfully

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4733 on: May 31, 2019, 01:36:28 PM »
And we go around in the same circles....

You staying with your view, and me unable to adequately articulate my purpose.. And of course argue law...

This ever increasing circle getting no-one anywhere, and everyone is again happy with the status quo...

Don't need anyone rocking the boat... God forbid.... Someone may call you a Paedo!!

jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4734 on: May 31, 2019, 01:42:03 PM »
And we go around in the same circles....

You staying with your view, and me unable to adequately articulate my purpose.. And of course argue law...

This ever increasing circle getting no-one anywhere, and everyone is again happy with the status quo...

Don't need anyone rocking the boat... God forbid.... Someone may call you a Paedo!!

No circles involved. He confessed to the child porn the killing of Jo and is right where he should be, quietly serving his sentence without challenge. Not complicated really is it? For whatever reason you choose to think you  know better than Tabak is something that will keep YOU going round in circles for a long time to come I suspect

Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4735 on: May 31, 2019, 01:56:38 PM »
And we go around in the same circles....

You staying with your view, and me unable to adequately articulate my purpose.. And of course argue law...

This ever increasing circle getting no-one anywhere, and everyone is again happy with the status quo...

Don't need anyone rocking the boat... God forbid.... Someone may call you a Paedo!!
Nope, there’s only you going round in circles, really happy he’s banged up, not long enough though. If the cap fits, they have to wear the name I’m afraid.  ?>)()<

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4736 on: May 31, 2019, 02:33:02 PM »
And we go around in the same circles....

You staying with your view, and me unable to adequately articulate my purpose.. And of course argue law...

This ever increasing circle getting no-one anywhere, and everyone is again happy with the status quo...

Don't need anyone rocking the boat... God forbid.... Someone may call you a Paedo!!

He is one by his own admission given that he never denied the charges. He’s also a killer.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2019, 04:32:18 PM by Caroline »

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4737 on: May 31, 2019, 03:45:03 PM »
As you know nothing about me, you have no idea, if that is applicable...

All I am trying to do is get clarity... simple really, not to undermine the seriousness of such offences... And you are correct it does work both ways... That is why clarity is important, so anyone doesn't find themselves at the wrong end of the law...


"Not to undermine the seriousness of such offences"? Really? That's exactly what you ARE doing. I'm experiencing way more empathy, from you, for the perpetrators, than for the victims.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4738 on: May 31, 2019, 04:33:37 PM »
As you know nothing about me, you have no idea, if that is applicable...

All I am trying to do is get clarity... simple really, not to undermine the seriousness of such offences... And you are correct it does work both ways... That is why clarity is important, so anyone doesn't find themselves at the wrong end of the law...

There was/is clarity - he had pedo images on his computer, didn't deny they were his - hence he's a pedo. Clear enough?

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #4739 on: May 31, 2019, 05:43:54 PM »
well... I see someones post has been edited... Are we back to a game.....  You know what i'm referring too...

You need someone else to play with...  What I believe or think is unimportant, as long as everyone else is on the correct page then it doesn't matter....

Why you all want me to think the same way as everyone else is beyond me... It shouldn't really matter...  You can play 'tag' with someone else...  This obviously being the modern version.... 'virtual tag'....

'hashtag' 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(

I for one, hardly ever know what you are referring to, how you come to certain conclusions or have the confidence to post them!

If you are referring to MY edit, I replied on my phone and it said

"Heist one by his own admission. He’s also a killer."

Did really check what I had written but when I noticed, I amended the "Heist" to "He is" and added "given that he never denied the charges"

The post now reads;

"He is one by his own admission given that he never denied the charges. He’s also a killer."

So what are you trying to insinuate? And NO! I have no idea what you're referring to but then I doubt I am alone there!