Multiple reasons why Sheila Caffell is innocent and Jeremy Bamber is guilty

[Angelo222]

Since we have no record of time of death as proper procedures were not followed we have no real idea.

You have just claimed that Sheila could have shot herself as the police forced their way into the farmhouse.  I have just explained two unassailable reasons why that is false so please don't come back with we don't know the time of death as this is irrelevant to your claim.

Sheila was long dead when first checked for life.  Had she just been shot the paramedics standing outside would have been called in. There were no gunshots heard by anyone including Jeremy.

[Holly Goodhead]

Could I ask you Holly why you believe for a moment that Jeremy Bamber might be a miscarriage of justice when he has failed to bring anything to the table which could support his case?

Yes Matthew firstly I believe the evidence that convicted JB ie the silencer was fabricated.  At trial Geoffrey Rivlin QC should have presented to the jury the very realistic possibility that this evidence, which formed the central plank of the prosecutions case, was contaminated either accidentally or deliberately.  It was then for the jury to reject or accept this in light of all the other evidence heard.  He failed to do this.  Instead he confused and misled the jury by concocting some bizarre story/theory about SC using the silencer and returning it to the gun cupboard before committing suicide and that the blood sample was an intimate mix of June and NB's.  No one in their right mind would buy into this.   

As I am sure you know the trial was in 1986 and by 1989 Geoffrey Rivlin was a full-time judge.  Perhaps after the WHF trial he accepted that his advocacy skills were not his major strength and fearful of letting down further clients he opted to become a judge. 

Without wishing to mince my words Geoffrey Rivlin QC simply lacked the balls to take on Robert Boutflour in the witness box.  Instead he was wishy washy with 'did you drip blood into the silencer' to which he replied 'No'.  This had no impact on the jury whatsoever as evidenced by their deliberations/queries to the judge asking about the intimate mix of blood (June and NB's) and SC's blood being a "perfect match" to that found in the silencer.  Nothing about contamination as Geoffrey Rivlin failed to take the bull by the horns.  A sad day for British justice.

JB is now in the very unenviable position of trying to override fabricated evidence.  It is too late in the day to claim contamination as this should have presented at trial and would not now be considered 'new' evidence.

Secondly much more is now known about the effects of maternal depression on infants (June suffered severe depression in 1959 as a result of adopting Sheila).  This can lead to neglect of the child and a failure to form an 'attachment' with the primary care giver.  Sheila was already at risk as a result of being adopted and it is now widely accepted that a psychology exists peculiar to adoptees especially those brought up in 'closed' adoptions.  (Which could perhaps explain some of my idiosyncrasies  ) Suicide is far more common amongst adoptees than their non-adopted peers.  None of the psychiatrists at trial made reference to any of this.

Maternal depression

http://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/reports_and_working_papers/working_papers/wp8/

The science of neglect

http://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/reports_and_working_papers/working_papers/wp12/

Attachment

http://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/attachment

Long-term outcome in adoption

http://futureofchildren.org/futureofchildren/publications/docs/03_01_12.PDF

Exploring links between past adoption practices and suicide

http://www-public.jcu.edu.au/news/archive/JCUPRD_045179

[Angelo222]

At last something I can agree with you on Holly, Jeremy was a damaged child who grew up a psychopath.

[Holly Goodhead]

Very few people are even interested in Bamber these days, he doesn't even get a mention by Alison in the Guardian.  He was found guilty in 1986, he is still guilty so let it lie before you end up like Tesko.

These things take years to come to light as with the financial crisis when Lord Turner stated the following:

“I think we – as the authorities, central banks, regulators, those involved today – are the inheritors of a 50-year-long, large intellectual and policy mistake,” he says.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9934819/Adair-Turner-Bankers-no-longer-in-denial.html

I know for a FACT that JB has many influential supporters.  I am sure some will be familiar to you when the time is right    I suspect you will have your hands full moderating this forum later in the year when the whole world will be watching and Misty's owner will be the least of your worries.  A new CCRC application winging its way and two new books to boot 

[Matthew Wyse]

These things take years to come to light as with the financial crisis when Lord Turner stated the following:

?I think we ? as the authorities, central banks, regulators, those involved today ? are the inheritors of a 50-year-long, large intellectual and policy mistake,? he says.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9934819/Adair-Turner-Bankers-no-longer-in-denial.html

I know for a FACT that JB has many influential supporters.  I am sure some will be familiar to you when the time is right    I suspect you will have your hands full moderating this forum later in the year when the whole world will be watching and Misty's owner will be the least of your worries.  A new CCRC application winging its way and two new books to boot 

More people making money out of Bambers misfortune by the sounds of it.
Wasn't there a guy on here not so long ago claiming to be writing a book about Bamber but couldn't answer some of the most basic questions about the known evidence in the case?

[Angelo222]

These things take years to come to light as with the financial crisis when Lord Turner stated the following:

“I think we – as the authorities, central banks, regulators, those involved today – are the inheritors of a 50-year-long, large intellectual and policy mistake,” he says.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9934819/Adair-Turner-Bankers-no-longer-in-denial.html

I know for a FACT that JB has many influential supporters.  I am sure some will be familiar to you when the time is right    I suspect you will have your hands full moderating this forum later in the year when the whole world will be watching and Misty's owner will be the least of your worries.  A new CCRC application winging its way and two new books to boot 

The CCRC will never review the Bamber case again let alone refer it because it is well determined thanks to the 1991 DNA analyses.

[Angelo222]

Reasons why Sheila Caffell is innocent and why she never murdered her children and parents as claimed by Jeremy Bamber...

   

Readers should note:  It was stated at Jeremy Bamber's trial that as a consequence of what occurred on the morning of the murders and following Jeremy Bamber's own evidence, an innocent Sheila renders Jeremy Bamber guilty by default.  It does not mean that he carried out the murders alone however.


1. Uncontaminated hands and nightdress completely free of any gunfire residue or gun oil.  In fact no contaminants of any sort indicated that Sheila never handled the rifle let alone fired it 25 times in quick succession and reloaded its magazine at least twice.

2. Uncontaminated feet.  Sheila's feet were completely clean and free of blood or any other contaminants evidencing the fact that she had been in bed when the attack took place and thereafter only walked on carpet. She could never have been downstairs in the kitchen that morning.

3. Uncut feet. Nevill Bamber was brutally attacked in the kitchen after having been shot several times in the upstairs bedroom.  During the assault in the kitchen a glass lampshade was smashed leaving glass fragments all over the floor. Had Sheila taken part in that attack the soles of her feet or the soles of her slippers would have been pock marked with glass fragments.  Sheila's feet were unmarked as were the soles of her slippers.

4. Only one fingerprint on the rifle evidencing the fact that Sheila did not wield it or fire it.  Had she shot herself twice as alleged by some her thumbprint would have been on the trigger since she would have to had pushed it.  It wasn't.

5. It is almost certain that blood and DNA belonging to Sheila was found in the sound moderator.  Group 'A' human blood matching Sheila was recovered from the sound moderator in 1985.  Later, advances in forensic science methods led to the recovery of DNA from inside the sound moderator which returned 17 markers out of 20 as a match to Sheila which was substantially better than the maximum coincidence rate of thirteen.  Sheila could not have shot herself with the sound moderator attached nor could she have returned it to the gun cupboard after shooting herself twice in the throat.

6. Sheila was in good spirits, looking forward to the future as a family again. Her doctor and her ex husband stated that she was not capable of hurting her father or her children.

7. Two gunshots to her neck.  Hardly indicative of a suicide especially when the first one would have incapacitated her. It is also noticeable that the gun and magazine were empty when found. Was that another coincidence that Sheila just happened to use the last bullet and had no others on her person?

8. No marks or injuries following a fight.  Sheila was tiny compared to the 6' 2" Nevill.  She could not have fought with him without sustaining some sort of injury or damage to her clothing.

9. Sheila had traces of cannabis in her system rendering her calm and docile, not violent or murderous.

10. Sheila had run out of her procyclidine which counteracts the effects of her medication haloperidol. Without this she would have been very shaky and uncoordinated (as described by various witnesses) and would not have had the control needed to get off 25 shots without missing one never mind trying to reload an awkward magazine in between time. 

11. Sheila was unfamiliar with the rifle or any firearm for that matter and would have been unable to make 25 target shots.

12. If Sheila had shot herself in the throat and had remained conscious, there would have been blood in her mouth and throat with resultant blood spatter everywhere as she struggled to breathe. Her fingers would have touched the burning wound and ended up covered in blood as would have her face and neck.  The blood trails running from this wound would have been smudged yet it was not. There was no secondary blood staining to her face or neck when the police initially found her.  The inside of her hands and her finger tips did not have any blood staining.  Sheila therefore was not conscious after the first shot and most certainly did not fire the second one.

13. Sheila's body was found on the far side of the master bedroom away from everyone. Had she committed suicide as some allege it is more than likely that she would have done so beside her children and not remote from them.

14. Perfectly manicured nails and all intact and unbroken.  If Sheila had used the rifle and loaded it at least once she would have ended up with some nail damage.  There was none.




Please post any suggestions for additions as you think fit.

Surely its time for an update?

[Holly Goodhead]

At last something I can agree with you on Holly, Jeremy was a damaged child who grew up a psychopath.

No evidence of this to date:

http://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/

I think in conjunction with the above and my previous post you will struggle to find any modern day mental health professional who, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, would run with JB over SC. 

There can be no disputing that June's mental illness circa 1959 had a profoundly damaging effect on SC which can be evidenced by Dr Ferguson's wit stats and the fact that SC sought out her birth mother weeks before the murders.

[Holly Goodhead]

More people making money out of Bambers misfortune by the sounds of it.
Wasn't there a guy on here not so long ago claiming to be writing a book about Bamber but couldn't answer some of the most basic questions about the known evidence in the case?

Good things come to those who wait 

[Holly Goodhead]

The CCRC will never review the Bamber case again let alone refer it because it is well determined thanks to the 1991 DNA analyses.

The DNA analysis was actually heard before the CoA in 2002.  In any event in proved absolutely nothing. The three appeal court judges found it "utterly meaningless" due to the potential for contamination.  It is well documented in the CoA hearing doc and I am not going all round the houses with that again.

[Angelo222]

The DNA analysis was actually heard before the CoA in 2002.  In any event in proved absolutely nothing. The three appeal court judges found it "utterly meaningless" due to the potential for contamination.  It is well documented in the CoA hearing doc and I am not going all round the houses with that again.

The analyses were done in 1991 following a breakthrough in DNA techniques.  It is an almost certainty that Sheilas DNA was in the silencer and the only way it got there was by back spatter following the two close contact shots to her neck..

[Holly Goodhead]

You have just claimed that Sheila could have shot herself as the police forced their way into the farmhouse.  I have just explained two unassailable reasons why that is false so please don't come back with we don't know the time of death as this is irrelevant to your claim.

Sheila was long dead when first checked for life.  Had she just been shot the paramedics standing outside would have been called in. There were no gunshots heard by anyone including Jeremy.

With or without a silencer gunshots with the said weapon within WHF were unlikely to be heard between floors let alone outside the building.

In the absence of a suitably qualified person being able to ascertain the approximate time of death it is all supposition.

[Holly Goodhead]

The analyses were done in 1991 following a breakthrough in DNA techniques.  It is an almost certainty that Sheilas DNA was in the silencer and the only way it got there was by back spatter following the two close contact shots to her neck..

If you want to live in a fool's paradise be my guest.

[Angelo222]

With or without a silencer gunshots with the said weapon within WHF were unlikely to be heard between floors let alone outside the building.

In the absence of a suitably qualified person being able to ascertain the approximate time of death it is all supposition.

That's totally false Holly, just the sort of side step I expected though.

Truth is that the night of the murders was very still with hardly a sound being heard from the house.  A gunshot would have easily been heard by anyone standing outside listening let alone monitoring the open telephone line.

[Angelo222]

If you want to live in a fool's paradise be my guest.

You appear to be the one living it.  I have no doubt whatsoever that Bamber is guilty as charged.