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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #615 on: May 02, 2019, 10:37:03 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates does mention Jeffrey Archer in her book but no mention of her brothers alleged attempted suicide?

There’s also no mention of Don Hale?

“Don Hale, who shot to fame when he helped clear Stephen Downing of the 1973 "Bakewell murder" of Wendy Sewell, says he now has evidence suggesting Barry George, the man convicted of Jill Dando's murder, did not shoot the BBC presenter.
Hale, who was asked by George's family to investigate the case, was visiting the area to speak to journalism students at Salford University last Friday. He explained how he was the only journalist to have visited George in prison, and did not believe he was guilty.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/don-digs-deep-to-help-case-1157985

“I was called in after he lost his appeal and pretty much had to start from scratch," he said. "I was the only journalist that was allowed to see Barry and I spent three hours with him.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/freedom-bid-man-who-shot-2933917

“Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice
http://www.donhale.co.uk/

Editor 'invented facts' to clear man in Bakewell Tart killing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb


And was awarded an OBE for it  *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #616 on: May 02, 2019, 01:45:26 PM »
Editor 'invented facts' to clear man in Bakewell Tart killing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb


And was awarded an OBE for it  *&^^&

“Hale saw the Court of Appeal verdict as a personal victory. He wrote a book about the campaign and co-operated with a BBC1 drama, in which he was played by Stephen Tompkinson. But police files show that Hale falsely portrayed Downing as an artless innocent who was wrongly accused while the guilty parties got away scot free.

The files demonstrate that he suppressed evidence suggesting that Downing was indeed the likely killer of Sewell, and fabricated “facts” to implicate entirely innocent people.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #617 on: May 02, 2019, 01:59:39 PM »
“Hale saw the Court of Appeal verdict as a personal victory. He wrote a book about the campaign and co-operated with a BBC1 drama, in which he was played by Stephen Tompkinson. But police files show that Hale falsely portrayed Downing as an artless innocent who was wrongly accused while the guilty parties got away scot free.

The files demonstrate that he suppressed evidence suggesting that Downing was indeed the likely killer of Sewell, and fabricated “facts” to implicate entirely innocent people.

Just like Michelle Diskin Bates has attempted to do with her brother.

“The court heard the police believe he remains a risk to women because of his convictions for indecent assault and attempted rape.
But Mr Glen said those convictions dating back to 1983, and some other unconnected complaints, did not justify the continuing surveillance.
He said Mr George had been stopped at least 15 times around London and as far away as Birmingham, the Isle of Wight and Ireland.
He had been labelled as posing ''a high-level risk'' despite his acquittal of the Dando murder. His other two spent convictions, dating from 1983, could not justify interference with his liberty
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6833611/Barry-George-wants-police-off-his-back-court-hears.html
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #618 on: May 02, 2019, 02:16:11 PM »
Editor 'invented facts' to clear man in Bakewell Tart killing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb


And was awarded an OBE for it  *&^^&

Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice. He has also shot to fame as an author , most recently ‘Mallard: How the 'Blue Streak' Broke the World Steam Speed Record’ a book about the World-Famous locomotive and ‘The Final Dive: The Life and Death of Buster Crabb’ the enthralling tale of the British Diver and the intriguing circumstances of his death. Don has also toured the country giving speeches on all kinds of themes from his investigative journalism through to his former careers as a BBC journalist and Professional footballer.
http://www.donhale.co.uk/


This man is a fraud and has a track record for gaslighting and smear campaigns, undoubtedly another narcissist.  *&^^&

Smear campaigns are intentional and systematic dissemination of deceptive information designed to undermine, discredit, and isolate
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #619 on: May 02, 2019, 02:37:13 PM »
Don Hale, Mark Willian’s Thomas, Surjit Sing Clair, David Wells - to name but a few. What a team!
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #620 on: May 02, 2019, 02:51:29 PM »
Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice. He has also shot to fame as an author , most recently ‘Mallard: How the 'Blue Streak' Broke the World Steam Speed Record’ a book about the World-Famous locomotive and ‘The Final Dive: The Life and Death of Buster Crabb’ the enthralling tale of the British Diver and the intriguing circumstances of his death. Don has also toured the country giving speeches on all kinds of themes from his investigative journalism through to his former careers as a BBC journalist and Professional footballer.
http://www.donhale.co.uk/


This man is a fraud and has a track record for gaslighting and smear campaigns, undoubtedly another narcissist.  *&^^&

Smear campaigns are intentional and systematic dissemination of deceptive information designed to undermine, discredit, and isolate

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/03/08/day-five-or-life-on-mars-bars/

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/03/28/hale-ing-frequencies/

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/03/28/hale-ing-frequences-ii/

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/03/28/hale-ing-frequencies-iii/

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/03/09/1984-sex-crime/
« Last Edit: May 02, 2019, 02:57:35 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #621 on: May 02, 2019, 02:58:57 PM »
Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice. He has also shot to fame as an author , most recently ‘Mallard: How the 'Blue Streak' Broke the World Steam Speed Record’ a book about the World-Famous locomotive and ‘The Final Dive: The Life and Death of Buster Crabb’ the enthralling tale of the British Diver and the intriguing circumstances of his death. Don has also toured the country giving speeches on all kinds of themes from his investigative journalism through to his former careers as a BBC journalist and Professional footballer.
http://www.donhale.co.uk/


This man is a fraud and has a track record for gaslighting and smear campaigns, undoubtedly another narcissist.  *&^^&

Smear campaigns are intentional and systematic dissemination of deceptive information designed to undermine, discredit, and isolate

”But the Downing case would eventually change the law, win Hale an OBE and make him a go-to journalist to investigate major miscarriages of justice.
In the years since the release of Mr Downing, Hale has also helped to free Barry George, the man who spent eight years in jail for the murder of Jill Dando, and to clear the name of footballer, Ched Evans, after a controversial rape retrial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-38581779
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #622 on: May 02, 2019, 05:01:00 PM »
I cannot get away from the fact that Michelle (nee Diskin) Bates apparent values appear to conflict with her behaviours, which in turn would be suggestive of moral duplicity?

“Hypocrisy, according to usual definitions, means not practicing what we preach, saying one thing and doing another, or publicly upholding moral norms for others to follow, but personally violating them in private.
Social psychologists distinguish many varieties of hypocrisy. “People do not always do things for the reasons they profess, be this due to deliberate deception or non-conscious self-deception”, say Graham et al (2015).

Three relevant types are Moral Duplicity, Double Standard and Moral Weakness. 

--Moral Duplicity (also Moral Deception): Assuming a false appearance of virtue or morality by preaching one thing while doing another, or publicly admonishing others for things one actually does oneself.

--Double Standard: When individuals’ evaluations of their own moral transgressions differ substantially from their evaluations of the same transgressions enacted by others (Valdesolo & DeSteno [2007]). Plainly said, the rules apply to others, but not to them.

--Moral Weakness: When people just fail to live up to their moral values. “Inconsistency between one’s stated intention and one’s subsequent behavior is a simple inability to follow through, for lack of ability, resources, or willpower. This differs from hypocrisy in that the intentions may have been stated in good faith while overestimating one’s ability to implement them” (Monin & Merrit, 2012).
https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_prevalent_are_hypocrisy_and_double_standard_among_people_in_your_field_university_or_workplace_How_do_you_deal_with_it
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #623 on: May 02, 2019, 05:23:34 PM »
Seems Michelle Diskin Bates is today seeking a defamation solicitor https://mobile.twitter.com/michelle_diskin?lang=en

”He who comes to equity must approach the court with clean hands".
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #624 on: May 02, 2019, 05:48:10 PM »
Seems Michelle Diskin Bates is today seeking a defamation solicitor https://mobile.twitter.com/michelle_diskin?lang=en

”He who comes to equity must approach the court with clean hands".

Why advertise for a defamation solicitor on Twitter? Can’t she use her brothers legal people?

Appears like attention seeking behaviour to me.

My observations and opinions of course.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #625 on: May 02, 2019, 05:49:12 PM »
“Attention seeking behavior is to act in a way that is likely to elicit attention, usually to elicit validation from others. People are thought to engage in both positive and negative attention seeking behavior independent of the actual benefit or harm to health. Most behavior that is motivated by attention seeking is considered to be driven by self-consciousness and thus an externalization of personality rather than internal and self-motivated behavior. This type of influence on behavior can result in a potential loss of a person's sense of agency, personality disorder and the behavior associated with these conditions.[1]

Enjoying the attention of others is socially acceptable in some situations.[2] In some instances, however, the need for attention can lead to new difficulties and may highlight underlying, preexisting ones. However, as a tactical method, it is often used in combat, theatre (upstaging) and it is fundamental to marketing. One strategy used to counter various types of attention-seeking behavior is planned ignoring.

Potential causes   
If as a child, the person did not receive much attention from their parents or their peers then they may grow up feeling neglected. Those feelings will then be the main drive behind the person's attention-seeking behavior. Children of abusive parents and parents who are always absent may feel overlooked, and so the child may grow up becoming an attention-seeking adult.

Sometimes adults seek attention because of jealousy. When someone finds themselves threatened by another person who takes all the attention, they may respond with attention-seeking behavior.

Lack of self-esteem can be another cause for attention-seeking behavior. Some people think that they are overlooked and so they think that the only solution to restore their balance is to bring back the lost attention. The attention they will get in this case will provide them with reassurance and will help them think that they are worthy.

Narcissists are also attention seekers. They consider this attention a good source of narcissistic supply and so they strive to get it.[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_seeking
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #626 on: May 02, 2019, 05:57:46 PM »
The files demonstrate that he suppressed evidence suggesting that Downing was indeed the likely killer of Sewell, and fabricated “facts” to implicate entirely innocent people.[/b]

If he can do this in the Stephen Downing’s case it follows he can do it in others.


During the police interview, Downing went on to confess to having attacked Sewell before sexually assaulting her as she lay dying. He later repeated the confession to several prison doctors.

Shortly after being charged with murder, however, he made a partial retraction, denying having attacked Sewell but still admitting the sexual assault.

He was duly convicted of murder but later repudiated all of his confession. He remained so long in jail largely because he refused to acknowledge his crime.

His plight, as presented by his parents Ray and Juanita, caught the imagination of Hale who was the editor of the Matlock Mercury, a local Derbyshire paper. After going to see Downing 12 years ago, Hale began publicising the case. The story became a talking point when the editor suggested that the murder had actually been carried out by influential but unnamed local individuals.
[/u]
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb


O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #627 on: May 02, 2019, 06:17:09 PM »
Editor 'invented facts' to clear man in Bakewell Tart killing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb


And was awarded an OBE for it  *&^^&

Daniel Foggo is the author for the above article, his bio reads:

I am a reporter with a long history in investigative journalism. I like to tackle complex and difficult subjects while making them accessible and lively. Much of my TV work has stemmed from projects which I conceived myself, but I am equally happy being brought in to work on an existing concept or programme which has already been commissioned.

He’s also been a reporter for Panorama
https://www.thetalentmanager.com/talent/56178/daniel-foggo
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #628 on: May 02, 2019, 06:33:33 PM »
If he can do this in the Stephen Downing’s case it follows he can do it in others.


During the police interview, Downing went on to confess to having attacked Sewell before sexually assaulting her as she lay dying. He later repeated the confession to several prison doctors.

Shortly after being charged with murder, however, he made a partial retraction, denying having attacked Sewell but still admitting the sexual assault.

He was duly convicted of murder but later repudiated all of his confession. He remained so long in jail largely because he refused to acknowledge his crime.

His plight, as presented by his parents Ray and Juanita, caught the imagination of Hale who was the editor of the Matlock Mercury, a local Derbyshire paper. After going to see Downing 12 years ago, Hale began publicising the case. The story became a talking point when the editor suggested that the murder had actually been carried out by influential but unnamed local individuals.[/u]
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/editor-invented-facts-to-clear-man-in-bakewell-tart-killing-fxb673cdpbb

The seed is sown, the naive and gullible get hooked in, then it snowballs.

This is my theory regarding the Barry George case and my views remain firm
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #629 on: May 02, 2019, 06:43:32 PM »
Seems Michelle Diskin Bates is today seeking a defamation solicitor https://mobile.twitter.com/michelle_diskin?lang=en

”He who comes to equity must approach the court with clean hands".

Wonder if someone said something to her when she gave her good morning Britain interview?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation