Author Topic: EU membership, should we stay or leave?  (Read 125534 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2016, 12:04:30 AM »
So there was no point in havng a referendum then? Lol

not really...remember where you heard it first. To leave the EU would require an act of parliament ......the house of commons is pro europe...

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2016, 01:04:54 AM »
not really...remember where you heard it first. To leave the EU would require an act of parliament ......the house of commons is pro europe...

That's nonsense davel, a vote to leave on 23rd June will signal the start of the two year countdown to exit regardless of the House of Commons.  However, while David Cameron says voters would expect the process of leaving to begin straight away, he could delay and negotiate informally in the meantime.

The Guardian has done a nice piece entitled, 'What happens next if Britain votes to leave the EU'.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/31/what-happens-next-if-britain-votes-to-leave-the-eu
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 11:25:41 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline puglove

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2016, 01:05:07 AM »
Davel, I could do this all night, but here comes Mrs. davel, up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire, with a cup of hot Bovril and some internet Viagra.

Nighty night!!     ?{)(**
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 01:35:20 AM by John »
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2016, 09:30:34 AM »
That's nonsense davel, a vote to leave on 23rd June will signal the start of the two year countdown to exit regardless of the House of Commons.  However, while David Cameron says voters would expect the process of leaving to begin straight away, he could delay and negotiate informally in the meantime.

The Guardian has done a nice piece entitled, 'What happens next if Britain votes to leave the EU'.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/31/what-happens-next-if-britain-votes-to-leave-the-eu

I wish it was nonsense...it isn't. An exit will require an act of parliament passed in the commons...it will be up to the MPs to put it into effect not Cameron...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2016, 09:52:31 AM »
Could MPs block an EU exit if Britain votes for it?
Michael, from East Sussex asks an intriguing question - could the necessary legislation pass the Commons if all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservative MPs were in favour of staying?
The answer is that technically MPs could block an EU exit - but it would be seen as political suicide to go against the will of the people as expressed in a referendum. The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act.
The withdrawal agreement would also have to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #95 on: June 12, 2016, 10:14:38 AM »
That's nonsense davel, a vote to leave on 23rd June will signal the start of the two year countdown to exit regardless of the House of Commons.  However, while David Cameron says voters would expect the process of leaving to begin straight away, he could delay and negotiate informally in the meantime.

The Guardian has done a nice piece entitled, 'What happens next if Britain votes to leave the EU'.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/31/what-happens-next-if-britain-votes-to-leave-the-eu

Actually John, you should read the last sentence on the article.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2016, 10:31:16 AM »
I'm voting leave because..... I'm racist & proud.

I'm going to the National Front Disco.

England for the English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syZaHOq-9oo
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 10:36:07 AM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #97 on: June 12, 2016, 11:30:53 AM »
Actually John, you should read the last sentence on the article.

It doesn't matter how long it takes to get out Stephen but the UK is a sovereign State and ultimately can do whatever it chooses outside Europe. If we don't leave now it will be all the more difficult further down the line when irreparable damage has been done to out national identity.  That said however, I am lucky to live in a part of the UK where our national identity is well established and where foreigners are limited to a few eastern Europeans.  I certainly don't want my children and their children to suffer an invasion of Turkish Delight.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 11:36:09 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2016, 11:34:34 AM »
It doesn't matter how long it takes to get out Stephen but the UK is a sovereign State and ultimately can do whatever it chooses outside Europe. If we don't leave now it will be all the more difficult further down the line when irreparable damage has been done to out national identity.

What damage is that John ?

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2016, 11:38:12 AM »
What damage is that John ?

Have you been to London, Birmingham, Leeds and Bradford recently?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2016, 01:37:38 PM »
Have you been to London, Birmingham, Leeds and Bradford recently?

So you're not into curries then ?

I've lived in London for nearly 20 years, and no problems.

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2016, 01:43:28 PM »
So you're not into curries then ?

I've lived in London for nearly 20 years, and no problems.

Oh I love curries and the Chinese too!   8((()*/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2016, 02:17:37 PM »
It doesn't matter how long it takes to get out Stephen but the UK is a sovereign State and ultimately can do whatever it chooses outside Europe. If we don't leave now it will be all the more difficult further down the line when irreparable damage has been done to out national identity.  That said however, I am lucky to live in a part of the UK where our national identity is well established and where foreigners are limited to a few eastern Europeans.  I certainly don't want my children and their children to suffer an invasion of Turkish Delight.

...and our economy.

How many Eurozone countries have had bailouts lately?

Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland.....I'm sure there are more, & they'll be needing more cash throwing into their bottomless pits.

If Europe is so great, then how is it that Antartica is the only continent with lower economic growth?

I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2016, 02:53:43 PM »
Furthermore, we happen to live in a finite amount of space, with a finite amount of resources.

Indeed, the current housing shortfall is 10 prospective buyers to every 1 property.

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/631395/UK-housing-shortage-at-crisis-point-as-ten-buyers-for-everyhome-on-sale


I'm yet to hear from the remain camp as to how exactly this country can cater for it's own population growth, let alone cater for the extra half a million plus unwashed, that we can expect every year, what with their need for homes, doctors, faith schools &, of course, mosques.


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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2016, 04:22:12 PM »
Not that I am biased or anything, but ...

If you vote for BREXIT I reckon we will lose somewhere between £20k and £50k on our move to Portelas, due to the impact on the exchange rate.

I don't get a vote.  But if I did, I would vote for BREXIT.  The last time we got to vote, it was for a common market, not whether we wanted the United States of Europe.

I miss the Escudo.  And the Franc.  And the Lire.
What's up, old man?