Author Topic: EU membership, should we stay or leave?  (Read 126409 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #225 on: June 19, 2016, 03:21:26 PM »
Clearly you are in denial Stephen. The article you provided already provided all the fiscal figures.

I'm not in denial John.


I can read fine.


However, I will not be swayed by rhetoric.

Leaving the EU will have a major impact on the UK, and I am not prepared to say 'out' merely on hyperbole.

I want to see clear, concise and backed up facts, to make me alter my mind by Thursday.

Over to you and anyone else to convince me otherwise.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #226 on: June 19, 2016, 03:48:26 PM »
Clearly you are in denial Stephen. The article you provided already provided all the fiscal figures.

Analysis by the Institute for Fiscal studies earlier this week suggests that the UK's actual net contribution to the EU is £150m a week - less than half that claimed by Vote Leave.

The operative word being NET.

I am not in denial.


I did not say there wasn't a net contribution.

Now again, provide me with reasoned and logical arguments to leave the EU.

Show me exactly how I would benefit financially.

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #227 on: June 19, 2016, 04:13:56 PM »
I am not in denial.


I did not say there wasn't a net contribution.

Now again, provide me with reasoned and logical arguments to leave the EU.

Show me exactly how I would benefit financially.

More job opportunities, lower cost of living, lower taxes, cheaper foreign imports...
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stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #228 on: June 19, 2016, 04:19:03 PM »
More job opportunities, lower cost of living, lower taxes, cheaper foreign imports...

Hearsay.

Can you explain John how you arrive at those predictions ?
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 04:24:36 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Angelo222

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #229 on: June 19, 2016, 05:03:19 PM »
Cameron was made to look like a complete plonker when he tried to get a better deal from the EU lot.  That says it all for me, if we don't get out of this sham organisation we might never get the opportunity again any time soon.
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stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #230 on: June 19, 2016, 05:11:01 PM »
Cameron was made to look like a complete plonker when he tried to get a better deal from the EU lot.  That says it all for me, if we don't get out of this sham organisation we might never get the opportunity again any time soon.

So, Cameron is a plonker, as are Gove, Johnson, Farage and co.

They are politicians, and they talk out of their R'ses.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #231 on: June 19, 2016, 05:29:11 PM »
Did either of you know that Johnson's father supports 'Remain'. ?

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #232 on: June 19, 2016, 05:49:23 PM »
So, Cameron is a plonker, as are Gove, Johnson, Farage and co.

They are politicians, and they talk out of their R'ses.

Cameron was most certainly told to do one by Merkel and her Euro friends.  Talk about getting the crumbs of the EU table!
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 06:56:19 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #234 on: June 19, 2016, 07:47:08 PM »
Speaking on BBC Question Time today, David Cameron continued to deny that Turkey could join the EU and refused to say that he would veto such an application.

https://twitter.com/Justice_forum/status/744599790361554944

Cameron previously:

"I want us to pave the way from Ankara to Brussels"

What a hypocrite!
« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 07:50:25 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #236 on: June 19, 2016, 07:56:46 PM »
Ah, the Conservative Party in action then. 8)--))

Raise VAT, round up all the dwarves & start pumping gas into Lidl   @)(++(*
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stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #237 on: June 19, 2016, 07:58:43 PM »
Speaking on BBC Question Time today, David Cameron continued to deny that Turkey could join the EU and refused to say that he would veto such an application.

https://twitter.com/Justice_forum/status/744599790361554944

Cameron previously:

"I want us to pave the way from Ankara to Brussels"

What a hypocrite!

A politician being a hypocrite ? @)(++(* @)(++(*

Whatever next.

Perhaps Boris saying he was in favour of the single market 3 years ago and now has changed his mind. Now didn't Boris criticize Cameron for changing his mind on some issues ?

Yes he did.

So what does that make Boris then ? %£5&%

By the way John, the UK has a veto on other countries being brought into the EU.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #238 on: June 19, 2016, 08:01:28 PM »
Raise VAT, round up all the dwarves & start pumping gas into Lidl   @)(++(*

Definitely the Conservative Party then. 8((()*/

I hear Boris is willing to give Farage a place in the cabinet if he becomes P.M.

Then there would be mass migration. %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #239 on: June 19, 2016, 08:18:13 PM »
A MAJOR leak from Brussels has revealed the NHS will
be killed off if Britain remains in the European Union.


By DAVID MADDOX
PUBLISHED: May 25, 2016


   
New Brussels report reveals that NHS will be killed off if Britain remain in EU
Hundreds of papers from the secretive trade talks between the US and EU have been released online.

They appear to confirm fears that the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership talks between Brussels and Washington will, when ratified, lead to the health service being privatised or dismantled.

The documents, obtained by Greenpeace Netherlands, include a US proposal to have a committee with representatives from Washington and Brussels to meet each year “to review state-owned enterprises and monopolies” which would include the NHS.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666454/NHS-EU-killed-off-Brexit-Remain-Leave-referendum-Brussels-European-Union

« Last Edit: June 19, 2016, 08:22:26 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.