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Offline mrswah

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #225 on: July 31, 2017, 08:46:30 PM »
We have VT's word that Joanna made it back to her flat.



How do we know he wasn't lying?

Offline nina

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #226 on: July 31, 2017, 09:57:04 PM »


How do we know he wasn't lying?

Well we don't, unless we were there that night. I can't get over how you all say VT is innocent but call him a liar.

A lot of what VT has said has rung true to me, and I do tend to believe him on some things.

We obviously will never know but I believe him when he says he was in her flat with her.

Offline mrswah

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #227 on: July 31, 2017, 11:52:53 PM »
Well we don't, unless we were there that night. I can't get over how you all say VT is innocent but call him a liar.

A lot of what VT has said has rung true to me, and I do tend to believe him on some things.

We obviously will never know but I believe him when he says he was in her flat with her.

As you say, we can't know for sure.

If he is innocent of killing Jo, then he certainly lied in court (which, of course, is a crime in itself). If he's guilty, I still can't believe his version of events, which don't ring true to me at all. I doubt they did to the jury either, or they would have found him guilty of manslaughter.

No evidence was produced to place VT in Jo's flat, nor her in his, apart from his own testimony. Not even his fingerprints on the front door that he allegedly made such a fuss about.

Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #228 on: August 01, 2017, 08:10:37 AM »
Ok... I'm busy today... But I believe I have found somethings of interest.. that would be difficult to dispute...

This Case is off''' FULL STOP.... Something was definatley going on... well before they charged Dr Vincent Tabak....

Offline Angelo222

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #229 on: August 01, 2017, 09:03:29 AM »
Ok... I'm busy today... But I believe I have found somethings of interest.. that would be difficult to dispute...

This Case is off''' FULL STOP.... Something was definatley going on... well before they charged Dr Vincent Tabak....

I am struggling to understand some of your thinking on this case Nine.   I agree there are many unanswered questions and some which are troubling but to his credit Tabak did admit what he did to Joanna.  In those circumstances it is extremely difficult to see a situation whereby this case could be classed as a miscarriage of justice.  Or have I missed something?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #230 on: August 02, 2017, 01:25:38 PM »
I hadn't realised that Ann Redropp ..head of The Complex Crime Unit was at The early Police Conferences along side DCI Phil Jones and DI Joe Goff.... They kept that quiet.... Don't have a date...




Think it may be after the trial.... I only thought that they spoke to the media outside the court house ....

Offline AerialHunter

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #231 on: August 02, 2017, 02:29:15 PM »
I hadn't realised that Ann Redropp ..head of The Complex Crime Unit was at The early Police Conferences along side DCI Phil Jones and DI Joe Goff.... They kept that quiet.... Don't have a date...




Think it may be after the trial.... I only thought that they spoke to the media outside the court house ....


Given that this photograph shows them wearing poppies, are you sure this photograph relates to Yeates? November 11 been and gone!!
There is none so noble or in receipt of his fellows unbridled adulation as that police officer who willingly deceives to protect one of his own kind and, by virtue of birthright, extends that privilege to his family.

Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #232 on: August 02, 2017, 02:54:05 PM »

Given that this photograph shows them wearing poppies, are you sure this photograph relates to Yeates? November 11 been and gone!!


Interesting point that AH.... But poppy day was only weeks away ....   The more Interesting thing is why no-one has commented on any thing else.... over 300 reads on my posts last night.... And you are talking poppies....

My God.... !!

Edit,... It obviously has some other significance..... Just tell me.... Please ....


Double Edit.... Has that got anything to do with the message I sent last night...????

Offline Leonora

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #233 on: August 02, 2017, 08:16:13 PM »

Interesting point that AH.... But poppy day was only weeks away ....   The more Interesting thing is why no-one has commented on any thing else.... over 300 reads on my posts last night.... And you are talking poppies....

My God.... !!

Edit,... It obviously has some other significance..... Just tell me.... Please ....

Double Edit.... Has that got anything to do with the message I sent last night...????
There are some who rush in where angels fear to tread.

You made a valid observation about the decamping of Vincent Tabak, and, presumably, Tanja Morson, to 37 Aberdeen Road, seems to have shown a lack of resepct for his and her private life, in breach of Article 8 of the European Human Rights Convention. Apart from Christopher Jefferies, who was still a suspect, and Greg Reardon, whose flat was presumably deemed to be a crime scene, no one else from 44 Canynge Road seems to have been obliged to find somewhere else to live.

However, we don't know this for certain. Would it have been made public if they had? It is obvious that an awful lot was going on that has never been made public, some of which would probably alter our perception of the case entirely. It seems quite probable that Vincent Tabak already knew he was a suspect, and the police had already decided that his flat too was a crime scene, as indeed it would have been if he really had moved Joanna's body into his own flat.

Apart from that Article 8 is more honoured in the breach than the observance nowadays, thanks to all the anti-terror and anti-whitewashing laws that have been passed, making every man and his dog a potential terror suspect. Not to mention the regulations restricting people's rights to "family reunification".

Offline mrswah

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #234 on: August 02, 2017, 09:37:04 PM »

Given that this photograph shows them wearing poppies, are you sure this photograph relates to Yeates? November 11 been and gone!!

The trial finished on October 28th, so some people would have been wearing poppies then: November 11th was only a couple of weeks away.

Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #235 on: August 07, 2017, 02:28:59 PM »
The Police's case is that Joanna Yeates made it home after she had left 'The Bristol Ram"...

 The CCTV that was taken from residents on Canygne Road, didn't apparently show Joanna Yeates.... This CCTV had never been made public...

Colin Port supports the theory that Joanna Yeates did not reach her flat on Friday 17th December 2010

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The investigation team reported on the full movements of Ms
Yeates as seen on CCTV from the Ram Public House to the last sighting at
the Hop House CCTV
  So where did she go after that ????

DS Mark Saunders says in The Papers and on video about vehicles driving up and down Canygne Road...

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Police are also studying private CCTV footage which shows the area around her Canynge Road home.
Det Supt Mark Saunders said: "You can see lots of people walking up and down and vehicles driving up and down on Friday night and the early hours of Saturday morning.

So.... Where was Joanna Yeates on this "PRIVATE" CCTV????


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12061305

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122184118/http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Witness-Statement-of-Chief-Constable-Colin-Port.pdf

Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #236 on: August 12, 2017, 11:29:33 PM »
The Incident Vehicle is parked outside 44, Canygne Road on the 22nd December 2010..

DS Mark Saunders is talking to camera, saying
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We are all trying to guess as to various scenario's that could have happened ...

The fact That he is outside Canygne Road and an incident vehicle is all ready parked there as ear;y as 22nd December 2010... They already knew something other than Joanna Yeates was a Missing Person.. (IMO)...


What is A Police Support Group Vehicle ???...   I thought they were used as escorts ??? Football matches etc... why is there one outside Canygne Road??? For a 'Missing Person"...  Did they escort someone from Canygne Road ??? Just seems a bit odd to me ...


http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/659244566


Offline Leonora

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #237 on: August 13, 2017, 12:07:29 PM »
The Incident Vehicle is parked outside 44, Canygne Road on the 22nd December 2010..

DS Mark Saunders is talking to camera, saying
The fact That he is outside Canygne Road and an incident vehicle is all ready parked there as ear;y as 22nd December 2010... They already knew something other than Joanna Yeates was a Missing Person.. (IMO)...

What is A Police Support Group Vehicle ???...   I thought they were used as escorts ??? Football matches etc... why is there one outside Canygne Road??? For a 'Missing Person"...  Did they escort someone from Canygne Road ??? Just seems a bit odd to me ...

http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/659244566
Well done for finding this clip! It is the earliest evidence of such a big police presence at 44 Canynge Road - but not as early as we would like! Were these vehicles present the day before, when the family made their first TV appeal? Were they present on Monday 20th, when the slopes of Avon Gorge were being scoured?

Offline Nine.. Again

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #238 on: August 13, 2017, 04:38:25 PM »
Well done for finding this clip! It is the earliest evidence of such a big police presence at 44 Canynge Road - but not as early as we would like! Were these vehicles present the day before, when the family made their first TV appeal? Were they present on Monday 20th, when the slopes of Avon Gorge were being scoured?


I have found an image of them searching the gorge... but the Article is dated the 23rd December 2010






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340586/Boyfriend-missing-architect-Jo-Yeates-sobs-I-want-Christmas.html


leonora.... Was the search earlier ???? On the Monday 20th December 2010??

Offline Leonora

Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #239 on: August 13, 2017, 07:34:00 PM »

I have found an image of them searching the gorge... but the Article is dated the 23rd December 2010





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340586/Boyfriend-missing-architect-Jo-Yeates-sobs-I-want-Christmas.html

leonora.... Was the search earlier ???? On the Monday 20th December 2010??
The earliest reports state that police were searching the Downs and the Gorge on Wednesday 22nd December 2010. The link you posted to the Daily Mail article includes a photo of 44 Canynge Road with the same mobile incident centre parked outside as in the clip of Mark Saunders - confirming that was indeed where they filmed him.