Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Robittybob1]

Do they have any evidence which contradicts the study

Strangely enough there was a smaller study done by the GNR that contradicted the above study but the 2nd study was a lot harder for me to read (I couldn't download it).

"Handler Beliefs Do Not Affect Police Dog Detection Outcomes"  https://rogerabrantes.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/handler-beliefs-do-not-affect-police-dog-detection-outcomes/

G-unit has found the same one.

[Mr Gray]

Strangely enough, there was a Portuguese study;

Handler Beliefs Do Not Affect Police Dog Detection Outcomes
https://rogerabrantes.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/handler-beliefs-do-not-affect-police-dog-detection-outcomes/

This is, another... Scent/no scent study.... I would expect the dogs to be very good at this.... The previous study looked at how the dogs related when searching premises and the handlers thought scents would be present

[Robittybob1]

Can anyone get the text out of this article? https://en.calameo.com/read/0009488961a26abd0a577

[Mr Gray]

Can anyone get the text out of this article? https://en.calameo.com/read/0009488961a26abd0a577

I've read it... It's quite different.
The handlers, were told that scent was present in some rooms but not others... They were told that there would be zero.. one.. Two.. Or three sources in each room

To replicates lits test there should have been no scent in any room but the handlers told that scent was present in two.. We would then have seen if thehandlers perception caused the dog to alert

[Robittybob1]

I've read it... It's quite different.
The handlers, were told that scent was present in some rooms but not others... They were told that there would be zero.. one.. Two.. Or three sources in each room

To replicates lits test there should have been no scent in any room but the handlers told that scent was present in two.. We would then have seen if thehandlers perception caused the dog to alert

Like there were requests that the test should be repeated, but if a variant of the test is performed, does that count?

[Mr Gray]

Like there were requests that the test should be repeated, but if a variant of the test is performed, does that count?

I think that the requests to repeat the tests came from the authors but the dog handlers were reluctant

[Robittybob1]

I think that the requests to repeat the tests came from the authors but the dog handlers were reluctant

I was thinking more of the requests made on the forum.  We have two papers but not exact replica experiments.  Do they compliment each other or do they reveal opposing results? 

All I'm doing is asking the questions here as I don't actually know the answer.  It is a complex topic and very few of us have real experience of what sniffer dogs can do.  My friend who trained hunting dogs quipped that the trainers were at fault.  Who knows?  Is the mistake the dog or the trainer?

[The General]

I've been on black ops for 4 weeks in Chad, I come back to see this topic still being as divisive as ever.
What I would say is that I saw wild dogs in the Sudanian Savannah that could track a packet of Hula Hoops 300 miles across arid tundra.

[Venturi Swirl]

I've been on black ops for 4 weeks in Chad, I come back to see this topic still being as divisive as ever.
What I would say is that I saw wild dogs in the Sudanian Savannah that could track a packet of Hula Hoops 300 miles across arid tundra.

Strange.  Until this evening no one had commented on this thread for over two weeks... 

[The General]

Strange.  Until this evening no one had commented on this thread for over two weeks... 

Yeh, strange indeed [random emoji]

[Venturi Swirl]

Yeh, strange indeed [random emoji]

I’d like to know more about the tundra you discovered in the Sudan please. 

[Eleanor]

I’d like to know more about the tundra you discovered in the Sudan please.

So would I.

[The General]

It's for another time. Maybe when my classifications are lifted I'll be able to tell the full story.

[misty]

It's for another time. Maybe when my classifications are lifted I'll be able to tell the full story.

Are you at least able to tell us which flavour of Hula Hoops the wild dogs were tracking?

[Mr Gray]

I've been on black ops for 4 weeks in Chad, I come back to see this topic still being as divisive as ever.
What I would say is that I saw wild dogs in the Sudanian Savannah that could track a packet of Hula Hoops 300 miles across arid tundra.

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