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Offline kizzy

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2018, 01:37:01 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
Well it certainly didn't take long for this thread entitled "Does Madeleine have the right to be found" to turn into yet another opportunity for slagging off her parents.  I should have known better.

That's because imo there isn't anything good to say about them.

What maddie should have had is the right not to be left unsupervised - in the first place.

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2018, 01:38:58 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 19, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
Sorry it didn’t go as you planned.
I had no plans for this thread other than to discuss the subject of the thread.  I should however have known by now that all threads lead to the same ultimate destination.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2018, 01:41:31 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 01:38:58 PM
I had no plans for this thread other than to discuss the subject of the thread.  I should however have known by now that all threads lead to the same ultimate destination.


I Would think that is because there isn't much you can defend the mccs for.
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Offline jassi

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2018, 01:44:00 PM »
The curse of unforeseen consequences - could equally apply to the actions of the McCanns
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2018, 01:53:21 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 01:38:58 PM
I had no plans for this thread other than to discuss the subject of the thread.  I should however have known by now that all threads lead to the same ultimate destination.

Oh don't worry  it will soon be another dog thread, and Amaral bashing...

Seem weird that discussing a missing childs rights when missing but not wanting to discuss ALL her rights,including before she went 'missing'.. hmm
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Offline Erngath

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2018, 01:57:07 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
Well it certainly didn't take long for this thread entitled "Does Madeleine have the right to be found" to turn into yet another opportunity for slagging off her parents.  I should have known better.

It is for some their raison d'etre.
The opportunity to slag off the parents of a missing child will never be missed.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2018, 01:58:51 PM »
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on August 19, 2018, 01:53:21 PM
Oh don't worry  it will soon be another dog thread, and Amaral bashing...

Seem weird that discussing a missing childs rights when missing but not wanting to discuss ALL her rights,including before she went 'missing'.. hmm

And I notice that Vertigo Swirl hasn't mentioned my post regarding Joana and her right to be found. Perhaps Vertigo Swirl thinks as I now do and that Joana was murdered by her family so won't be found.

Erngath perhaps if your "raison d'etre" wasn't slagging off Goncalo Amaral and the PJ then we may achieve a meeting of the minds or perhaps not eh!
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Offline Erngath

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2018, 02:03:59 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 19, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
And I notice that Vertigo Swirl hasn't mentioned my post regarding Joana and her right to be found. Perhaps Vertigo Swirl thinks as I now do and that Joana was murdered by her family so won't be found.

Erngath perhaps if your "raison d'etre" wasn't slagging off Goncalo Amaral and the PJ then we may achieve a meeting of the minds or perhaps not eh!

 if you pay heed to my very low post count you might realise that I spend very  little time on this forum, hence my "slagging off Amaral is miniscule compared to the copious amounts of abuse directed at Madeleine's family.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2018, 02:15:06 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 19, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
And I notice that Vertigo Swirl hasn't mentioned my post regarding Joana and her right to be found. Perhaps Vertigo Swirl thinks as I now do and that Joana was murdered by her family so won't be found.

Erngath perhaps if your "raison d'etre" wasn't slagging off Goncalo Amaral and the PJ then we may achieve a meeting of the minds or perhaps not eh!
Did you not read my reply #19? 
This has become another toxic thread - I'll leave you all to your sunday sport.
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Offline jassi

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2018, 02:39:03 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
Did you not read my reply #19? 
This has become another toxic thread - I'll leave you all to your sunday sport.

Is that still being published ?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2018, 02:59:29 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 19, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
As far as I can see I am the only supporter who has posted on this thread and in my opening post I contend that all missing children, including Madeleine should enjoy the same rights, as expressed in the link I posted, none of which can be guaranteed unless they are found.  Amaral did not even cross my mind when I started the thread but I find it interesting that you are bringing Joana into the discussion - do you believe her to be a missing child then?

Apologies Vertigo Swirl I missed this post.  I believe Joana to be as much a missing child as Madeleine. More to the point do you believe Joana is a missing child that needs and deserves finding.
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Offline jassi

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2018, 03:42:38 PM »
I fancy dead people have few if any rights
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2018, 03:57:37 PM »
MBM had the right to have her disappearance investigated. The PJ investigated it for 14 months and then ran out of ideas and archived the case. Operation Grange then picked it up and the PJ reopened their investigation also. Both investigations appear to be ongoing. Whether the investigations can be described as 'searches' is a question that I don't have the answer to.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2018, 06:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Erngath on August 19, 2018, 02:03:59 PM
if you pay heed to my very low post count you might realise that I spend very  little time on this forum, hence my "slagging off Amaral is miniscule compared to the copious amounts of abuse directed at Madeleine's family.

That maybe so but I didn't mention the quantity of slagging off Amaral just that you did it regularly.  I posted.

Erngath perhaps if your "raison d'etre" wasn't slagging off Goncalo Amaral and the PJ then we may achieve a meeting of the minds or perhaps not eh!

I meant it in all seriousness and only posted it in reply to yours about the McCanns also by the "you" I was referring to pretty much every supporter on here and elsewhere.

If only we could remove the bitchyness then perhaps we could actually do some good for Madeleine and find something that may help police get to the truth. 

Perhaps I haven't been involved in reading the case for long enough. I probably will soon be as jaded and angry as the rest of you. Watch this space.
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Offline barrier

Re: Does Madeleine have the right to be found?
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2018, 07:00:34 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 19, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
=Perhaps I haven't been involved in reading the case for long enough. I probably will soon be as jaded and angry as the rest of you. Watch this space.

Stay emotionally detached and you'll survive.
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