Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?

[Alfie]

I would expect him to accept the majority decision delivered by the referendum. Labour's leave negotiations would, however, seek to get a deal which both sides could accept. I expect whoever gets the job to do the same.

And what has he actually said on the subject to back up your expectations?

[G-Unit]

And what has he actually said on the subject to back up your expectations?

I'm not bothered what any of them have said. The British people were asked a question and they answered it. I expect every politician to accept and implement the will of the people. At the same time I expect them to try their best to find a solution that both sides can accept. Whether that's possible we shall see.

[blonk]

And what has he actually said on the subject to back up your expectations?

Jeremy Corbyn has said very clearly, following the Brexit vote, that the referendum vote must be respected, as in this report on the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36628305

"He also announced a review of immigration policy and ruled out a new EU referendum if Labour wins power. He said: "The referendum has taken place, a decision has been made, I think we have got to respect that decision and work out our relationship with Europe in the future."

Corbyn has been a lifelong opponent of the European Union, correctly, in my view, seeing it as an unholy alliance between the interests of career politicians and big, corporate business. Which is the precise reason I campaigned and voted to leave the Common Market in the 1975 referendum.

It must be clearly understood that the free movement of both labour and capital favours corporate, global businesses, and not the ordinary 'man and woman in the street'. That is precisely why the EU is supporting the appalling TTIP proposals which will massively assist - and empower even further - corporate global businesses operating in the US and the EU.         

As a matter of fact, as this 15-second clip of Corbyn speaking just before the referendum vote shows, he gave the electorate a crisp summary of the very reasons why we should vote LEAVE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErEumAi_zGU

[Carana]

(snip)
It must be clearly understood that the free movement of both labour and capital favours corporate, global businesses, and not the ordinary 'man and woman in the street'.

On another thread, you said this (snipped)

As for the gloom and doom predictions, just four weeks ago today the stock market (FTSE100 index) was at 5,900. Today it is 12 percent higher at 6,600.

So much for the Remainers' doom and gloom!       

"The FTSE 100 might be the most famous index of UK shares but it doesn't actually give much insight into the state of the UK economy.

That's because around 70 per cent of the revenues produced by the largest 100 businesses in the country actually come from overseas, typically in dollars.

That means if the value of the pound falls – as it has done since Brexit – they actually do better.

The FTSE 250, meanwhile, is made up of the 250 largest companies outside the FTSE 100. It is filled with firms which are more UK focused such as housebuilders, estate agents, pub groups, travel companies and retailers.

These are industries which rely on a strong UK economy and a confident, spendthrift consumer. Over the past week many have tanked. "

Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/investing/article-3670532/Don-t-confident-FTSE-100-s-recovery-s-250-matters-s-5.html#ixzz4DtuqMupD
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[Alfie]

Jeremy Corbyn has said very clearly, following the Brexit vote, that the referendum vote must be respected, as in this report on the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36628305

"He also announced a review of immigration policy and ruled out a new EU referendum if Labour wins power. He said: "The referendum has taken place, a decision has been made, I think we have got to respect that decision and work out our relationship with Europe in the future."

Corbyn has been a lifelong opponent of the European Union, correctly, in my view, seeing it as an unholy alliance between the interests of career politicians and big, corporate business. Which is the precise reason I campaigned and voted to leave the Common Market in the 1975 referendum.

It must be clearly understood that the free movement of both labour and capital favours corporate, global businesses, and not the ordinary 'man and woman in the street'. That is precisely why the EU is supporting the appalling TTIP proposals which will massively assist - and empower even further - corporate global businesses operating in the US and the EU.         

As a matter of fact, as this 15-second clip of Corbyn speaking just before the referendum vote shows, he gave the electorate a crisp summary of the very reasons why we should vote LEAVE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErEumAi_zGU

LOL.  Wasn't he supposed to be in the Remain camp?  Isn't that what I have just been discussing with G-Unit?

[Alfie]

I'm not bothered what any of them have said. The British people were asked a question and they answered it. I expect every politician to accept and implement the will of the people. At the same time I expect them to try their best to find a solution that both sides can accept. Whether that's possible we shall see.

So, you don't care what Jeremy has to say on the subject of Europe but you think he's a top bloke who will rise to the challenge of leading us out of the EU, ok then!

[Miss Taken Identity]

The Labour party has already tarnished itself. their policies under bliar brought us right wing  fascist into the political spectrum due to their deaf earing a concerned public. I was so sure we were going to have a civil war on our hands... if the Government does not hold the vote up as  the people have spoken then I fear that is what we will have. We are borrowing money to support a benefit system,education and NHS SERVICE which is collapsing under the weight of uncontrolled immigration. Simple fact is  we do not have the infrastructure and did not put money aside to build more housing and school etc  for this invasion.
Thank you Labour!
We are also in debt to pay for 2 wars
Thank you Labour!

And no I AM NOT  a Tory or uk voter!

[G-Unit]

The Labour party has already tarnished itself. their policies under bliar brought us right wing  fascist into the political spectrum due to their deaf earing a concerned public. I was so sure we were going to have a civil war on our hands... if the Government does not hold the vote up as  the people have spoken then I fear that is what we will have. We are borrowing money to support a benefit system,education and NHS SERVICE which is collapsing under the weight of uncontrolled immigration. Simple fact is  we do not have the infrastructure and did not put money aside to build more housing and school etc  for this invasion.
Thank you Labour!
We are also in debt to pay for 2 wars
Thank you Labour!

And no I AM NOT  a Tory or uk voter!

What you have to take account of is that the Labour Party was taken over by 'New Labour' under Blair and Brown.
The last real Labour government ended in 1979.
http://www.redpepper.org.uk/inside-new-labours-rolling-coup-the-blair-supremacy/

[Mr Gray]

What you have to take account of is that the Labour Party was taken over by 'New Labour' under Blair and Brown.
The last real Labour government ended in 1979.
http://www.redpepper.org.uk/inside-new-labours-rolling-coup-the-blair-supremacy/

The British public do not want an extreme party ...Blair realised this
As long as they are extreme..as Corbyn is..... They are unelectable

[G-Unit]

The British public do not want an extreme party ...Blair realised this
As long as they are extreme..as Corbyn is..... They are unelectable

Political extremism is a label applied to anyone who is seen as having the potential to upset the status quo.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist, as were Clement Attlee, Nelson Mandela, Francois Mitterrand, Willy Brant, Aneurin Bevan, Tony Benn, Dennis Healey, Albert Einstein, Helen Keller and Martin Luther King.

Were they all extremists?

[Brietta]

Minimum wage 'most successful government policy'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11896971

The only way to make a difference is to have the power to do so.  With Jeremy Corbyn at the helm Labour can forget any aspiration to be elected with the majority required to do that.   
How can a man who does not command the respect of his parliamentary colleagues expect to be elected to run the country?

How can a man in self imposed purdah expect the respect of anyone?  I for one am going to forever envisage the image of a doddering old man locked incommunicado in his room surrounded by those with a duty of care to ensure he isn't bullied.  That is not my concept of a leader or leadership.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/02/corbyn-keeps-watson-arms-length

It certainly seems that the bully boy tactics are in evidence.
Whether at the behest of the 'leader' allegedly anxious to heal the rifts in the party or the independent action of his carers ... I'm sure a more humane method of dealing with workers could have been given consideration.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/jeremy-corbyns-staff-accused-of-being-petty-as-rebel-mps-aides-are-locked-out

Attitudes and actions such as that are not only inept but divisive and will lead to some sort of shake up, which may be no bad thing in the long term.  Short term, it is a disaster, very much as is the Corbyn style of leadership.

[mercury]

Political extremism is a label applied to anyone who is seen as having the potential to upset the status quo.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist, as were Clement Attlee, Nelson Mandela, Francois Mitterrand, Willy Brant, Aneurin Bevan, Tony Benn, Dennis Healey, Albert Einstein, Helen Keller and Martin Luther King.

Were they all extremists?

Excellently put GU
 

And well all know what Blair is responsible for

Is is a case of oh well Blair did a few good thngs but then very very seriously screwed up in the Middle East but thats ok?

NO he is a sociopath now and recognised as such

Perhaps people should stop praying for a charismatic centre leader it only ever ends up badly

[Mr Gray]

Political extremism is a label applied to anyone who is seen as having the potential to upset the status quo.

Corbyn is a democratic socialist, as were Clement Attlee, Nelson Mandela, Francois Mitterrand, Willy Brant, Aneurin Bevan, Tony Benn, Dennis Healey, Albert Einstein, Helen Keller and Martin Luther King.

Were they all extremists?

corbyn is far left and therefore by definition extreme.....you need to get your head out of the sand. He is unelectable........in my heart I am a far left but we know it does not work in practice. corbyn is more communist than you would like to admit

[G-Unit]

corbyn is far left and therefore by definition extreme.....you need to get your head out of the sand. He is unelectable........in my heart I am a far left but we know it does not work in practice. corbyn is more communist than you would like to admit

There have always been powerful people and non powerful people. There have always been rich and poor. There have always been struggles between the two. Those struggling against the powerful and rich have always been labelled as extreme in order to discredit them.

If no-one had ever struggled we would still be ruled by an absolute monarchy.

That's why saying a certain group are extreme is meaningless. What they are is a group who feel the status quo doesn't work in the interests of a certain section of society. Their aim is to redress the balance.

The Labour Party was formed out of the Trade Union Movement with the aim of ensuring that Parliament represented the interests of everybody.

The unashamed attacks on the poor by the Conservatives recently have contributed to the return of Labour to it's original aims in my opinion. The struggle still needs to continue because the Conservatives don't represent those at the bottom, and neither did 'New Labour'.

[Miss Taken Identity]

There have always been powerful people and non powerful people. There have always been rich and poor. There have always been struggles between the two. Those struggling against the powerful and rich have always been labelled as extreme in order to discredit them.

If no-one had ever struggled we would still be ruled by an absolute monarchy.

That's why saying a certain group are extreme is meaningless. What they are is a group who feel the status quo doesn't work in the interests of a certain section of society. Their aim is to redress the balance.

The Labour Party was formed out of the Trade Union Movement with the aim of ensuring that Parliament represented the interests of everybody.

The unashamed attacks on the poor by the Conservatives recently have contributed to the return of Labour to it's original aims in my opinion. The struggle still needs to continue because the Conservatives don't represent those at the bottom, and neither did 'New Labour'.

I wholeheartedly agree with all that GU.

Not only satisfied with keeping the 'lower classes' in the UK under a thumb,by denial of actual justice to medicating with powerful mind controlling drugs, but they financed and armed other wealthy criminals in other countries. One mans terrorist is another mans freedomfighter! Notice nothing negtve being said about Saudi ARABIA's abuse of people, in particular women, and their financial dealing and support of ISIS in Africa and else where. nothing-ziltch-zero.