Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?

[mercury]

So many sour grapes here because a lefty has managed to become leader of a left party rofl and survive attacks left right and centre

[misty]

So many sour grapes here because a lefty has managed to become leader of a left party rofl and survive attacks left right and centre

For the foreseeable future it will be beneficial to this country if he remains Leader of the Opposition. JMO.

[Alfie]

For the foreseeable future it will be beneficial to this country if he remains Leader of the Opposition. JMO.

For anyone happy that the Tories are in power and will remain in that position for the best part of the next 10 years, then yes I think you are absolutely right. 

[G-Unit]

For anyone happy that the Tories are in power and will remain in that position for the best part of the next 10 years, then yes I think you are absolutely right.

The problem with the Tories is their apparent belief that the fifth richest nation in the world can't afford to take care of the poor, sick and disabled members of it's population.

[stephen25000]

Was it against the rules?

You mean the same rules now being employed by the Labour Party to ensure some 'members' can't vote for Corbyn in the upcoming election ?

[Alice Purjorick]

You mean the same rules now being employed by the Labour Party to ensure some 'members' can't vote for Corbyn in the upcoming election ?

I mean: was anything to do with Corbyn's election as leader in contravention of The Labour Party's Rules governing the election of a leader.
If not there are no grounds for complaint. The fact he is perceived by some to be incompetent is irrelevant,added to which as he has never held a ministerial post  on which a sound judgement could be based in that respect. Making a judgement on his competence or lack thereof is based merely on bias or personal prejudice.
If people don't like Labour's policies under Corbyn they can always vote Tory, LibDem etc or not at all.
The idea that "the Labour Party is now dark pink rather than pale blue and I don't like it so Corbyn is a toss pot" is bit of a laugh.
Signed a life long believer in benevolent socialism who has always voted Tory. Now figure that out.

[stephen25000]

I mean: was anything to do with Corbyn's election as leader in contravention of The Labour Party's Rules governing the election of a leader.
If not there are no grounds for complaint. The fact he is perceived by some to be incompetent is irrelevant,added to which as he has never held a ministerial post  on which a sound judgement could be based in that respect. Making a judgement on his competence or lack thereof is based merely on bias or personal prejudice.
If people don't like Labour's policies under Corbyn they can always vote Tory, LibDem etc or not at all.
The idea that "the Labour Party is now dark pink rather than pale blue and I don't like it so Corbyn is a toss pot" is bit of a laugh.
Signed a life long believer in benevolent socialism who has always voted Tory. Now figure that out.

Making comments on other peoples abilities is something the overwhelming majority of people do, as has occurred on this forum on numerous occasions.

So, I presume you are happy that the Labour Party is using it's 'rules' to prevent Corbyn supporters voting for him in the election.

By the way, who said Corbyn is a 'toss pot' ?

Speaking personally, I just believe he is a weak leader, and he has surrounded himself with sycophants, who are little more than 'yes men or women'.

[Alfie]

The problem with the Tories is their apparent belief that the fifth richest nation in the world can't afford to take care of the poor, sick and disabled members of it's population.

And yet the Tories will still win the next election despite this, as the electorate will almost certainly reject Jeremy and his motley crew of socks-and-sandals lefties  (despite their supposedly popular policies) as not fit to govern.

[Alice Purjorick]

Making comments on other peoples abilities is something the overwhelming majority of people do, as has occurred on this forum on numerous occasions.

So, I presume you are happy that the Labour Party is using it's 'rules' to prevent Corbyn supporters voting for him in the election.

By the way, who said Corbyn is a 'toss pot' ?

Speaking personally, I just believe he is a weak leader, and he has surrounded himself with sycophants, who are little more than 'yes men or women'.

My opinion of the rules is not relevant. They are what they are. If that means they can be used to advantage then OK by me. I played golf a lot where knowing the rules can gain advantage and save shots; ie a free drop within three club lengths but not nearer the hole. The club is not specified so why measure using a wedge when measuring with a driver can get your ball out of the rough onto the fairway ? You can argue morality til the cows come home but it is within the rules.

No one used the words "toss pot" it was my interpretation of the emotional rather than objective language used by the usual parties who like to sneer.
Par for the course.

[Alice Purjorick]

And yet the Tories will still win the next election despite this, as the electorate will almost certainly reject Jeremy and his motley crew of socks-and-sandals lefties  (despite their supposedly popular policies) as not fit to govern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_Shadow_Cabinet_(United_Kingdom)
Please indicate which of the current shadow cabinet listed in the link above are in your opinion "socks-and-sandals lefties".
Thanking you in anticipation of your full cooperation I remain.....

[stephen25000]

My opinion of the rules is not relevant. They are what they are. If that means they can be used to advantage then OK by me. I played golf a lot where knowing the rules can gain advantage and save shots; ie a free drop within three club lengths but not nearer the hole. The club is not specified so why measure using a wedge when measuring with a driver can get your ball out of the rough onto the fairway ? You can argue morality til the cows come home but it is within the rules.

No one used the words "toss pot" it was my interpretation of the emotional rather than objective language used by the usual parties who like to sneer.
Par for the course.

'...emotional rather than objective'  ?

There are very few politicians I have any regard for, as you might have perceived by now.

Corbyn espoused being something different, and he was 'bringing a whole new politics' to the fore.

He's no different from the majority of most politicians, and he is on an ego trip.

[G-Unit]

It looks like the 'moderates' [what's moderate about a neoliberal btw] are going to have some tough decisions to make;

YouGov, which has called the last two contests correctly, shows Corbyn leading comfortably among all three groups: party members (52-40), registered supporters (70-25) and affiliated supporters (54-33).
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/jeremy-corbyn-set-win-landslide-victory-what-now-his-opponents

The fact Mr Smith is set for an electoral hiding must be infuriating for his supporters, who have depicted him as a paragon of electability. They have argued that Labour only stands a chance of winning the next election with him in charge, but party members disagree.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/jeremy-corbyn-isnt-going-away-labour-moderates-must-decide-if-th/

[stephen25000]

It looks like the 'moderates' [what's moderate about a neoliberal btw] are going to have some tough decisions to make;

YouGov, which has called the last two contests correctly, shows Corbyn leading comfortably among all three groups: party members (52-40), registered supporters (70-25) and affiliated supporters (54-33).
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/jeremy-corbyn-set-win-landslide-victory-what-now-his-opponents

The fact Mr Smith is set for an electoral hiding must be infuriating for his supporters, who have depicted him as a paragon of electability. They have argued that Labour only stands a chance of winning the next election with him in charge, but party members disagree.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/jeremy-corbyn-isnt-going-away-labour-moderates-must-decide-if-th/

it's not what the party members think that counts.

it's the electorate.

[Alfie]

It looks like the 'moderates' [what's moderate about a neoliberal btw] are going to have some tough decisions to make;

YouGov, which has called the last two contests correctly, shows Corbyn leading comfortably among all three groups: party members (52-40), registered supporters (70-25) and affiliated supporters (54-33).
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/jeremy-corbyn-set-win-landslide-victory-what-now-his-opponents

The fact Mr Smith is set for an electoral hiding must be infuriating for his supporters, who have depicted him as a paragon of electability. They have argued that Labour only stands a chance of winning the next election with him in charge, but party members disagree.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/jeremy-corbyn-isnt-going-away-labour-moderates-must-decide-if-th/

You don't need a poll to know that Corbyn is going to win.  That was a dead cert the moment they thrust Owen Smith into the ring, if not before.  Party members have got it into their heads (for some strange reason) that Jeremy is the Messiah and no one else will do, even those (like OS who espouse similar, if not even more extreme policies).  It's all about the cult of personality / celebrity, which is kind of ironic on a number of levels.   So, well done Jeremy and goodbye Labour for the next 10 years. 

[G-Unit]

it's not what the party members think that counts.

it's the electorate.

Not at the moment it isn't. The members are entitled to vote for the leader they want. Corbyn seems to be the one they want.

At the moment the electorate doesn't want to vote for a Labour Party with Corbyn as leader. They didn't want to vote for a Labour Party with Brown or Milliband as leader either.

Perhaps things will change before the next election. May's 'honeymoon period' will be long gone, Brexit could cause problems. There's a good deal more time than a week for things to change.