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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #240 on: January 24, 2017, 10:10:23 PM »
Interesting that the Supreme Court makes simple majority verdicts.  The Government is lucky that they maintain a comfortable majority in Parliament, consider what could have happened had EU supporters held the majority.  Would Parliament really defy the majority wishes of the electorate?

What the court said:

Reading out the judgement, Supreme Court President Lord Neuberger said: "By a majority of eight to three, the Supreme Court today rules that the government cannot trigger Article 50 without an act of Parliament authorising it to do so."
He added: "Withdrawal effects a fundamental change by cutting off the source of EU law, as well as changing legal rights.
"The UK's constitutional arrangements require such changes to be clearly authorised by Parliament."
The court also rejected, unanimously, arguments that the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly and Northern Ireland Assembly should get to vote on Article 50 before it is triggered.
Lord Neuberger said: "Relations with the EU are a matter for the UK government."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38720320

37% of the electorate is not a majority.

Offline John

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #241 on: January 24, 2017, 11:56:17 PM »
37% of the electorate is not a majority.

Last time I looked 37% was greater than 34%.
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #242 on: January 25, 2017, 05:15:37 AM »
Last time I looked 37% was greater than 34%.

Yet not a majority.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #243 on: January 25, 2017, 01:28:55 PM »
Interesting that the Supreme Court makes simple majority verdicts.  The Government is lucky that they maintain a comfortable majority in Parliament, consider what could have happened had EU supporters held the majority.  Would Parliament really defy the majority wishes of the electorate?

What the court said:

Reading out the judgement, Supreme Court President Lord Neuberger said: "By a majority of eight to three, the Supreme Court today rules that the government cannot trigger Article 50 without an act of Parliament authorising it to do so."
He added: "Withdrawal effects a fundamental change by cutting off the source of EU law, as well as changing legal rights.
"The UK's constitutional arrangements require such changes to be clearly authorised by Parliament."
The court also rejected, unanimously, arguments that the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly and Northern Ireland Assembly should get to vote on Article 50 before it is triggered.
Lord Neuberger said: "Relations with the EU are a matter for the UK government."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38720320

Well I suppose we have Gina Miller to thank for that clarification.... ?{)(**
So there we have it:
The referendum vote cannot be overturned except by the Government who can refuse to be bound by it.
Parliament must enact a bill to agree to Article 50 being invoked.
Any negotiations will be between the UK Government and The EU.
Anyone trying to fillibuster will be seen as being opposed to democracy within its definition in the UK political process.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #244 on: February 02, 2017, 07:18:58 AM »
A near 400 member majority in the Commons yesterday puts pay to any doubt that Brexit is well and truly on the way.    Hurrah Bremoaners !
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #245 on: February 02, 2017, 08:28:29 AM »
A near 400 member majority in the Commons yesterday puts pay to any doubt that Brexit is well and truly on the way.    Hurrah Bremoaners !

...but what exactly is brexit ?

Inflation is already on the up.

Wages are stagnated.

Businesses are relocating.

New trade deals take time to deliver, and can't start until brexit  terms are agreed with the EU Countries.

...and if May is seriously thinking she can get a deal which is as good as being in the EU without being in it , she is even more round the twist than she acts.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #246 on: February 02, 2017, 12:17:24 PM »
...but what exactly is brexit ?

Inflation is already on the up.

Wages are stagnated.

Businesses are relocating.

New trade deals take time to deliver, and can't start until brexit  terms are agreed with the EU Countries.

...and if May is seriously thinking she can get a deal which is as good as being in the EU without being in it , she is even more round the twist than she acts.

It's kind of like a Yeti or a Sasquatch; every one is talking about it but no one has actually seen one or has much idea what one looks like.
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stephen25000

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Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #247 on: February 03, 2017, 10:03:05 AM »
Apparently, some stupid woman on Question Time last night said she changed her vote to leave in the referendum after seeing a straight banana in a supermarket.

 *&*%£ %&5%£ %&5%£ %&5%£

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #248 on: February 03, 2017, 01:14:03 PM »
Apparently, some stupid woman on Question Time last night said she changed her vote to leave in the referendum after seeing a straight banana in a supermarket.

 *&*%£ %&5%£ %&5%£ %&5%£

That is not surprising.
Looking at some of the small print that David Davies is dropping out some folk are in for a shock should they be fortunate enough to live that long.
It is best not to watch Question Time. It's the same tired old format Lefty Righty Middly politicos; lefty or righty writer a professional comedian and an advertised for audience. Just like the Freddie Grisewood chaired Steam Radio jobby of years ago. Whatever happened to Russell "bring in the troops" Braddon I wonder?....replaced by Mel Phillips? and where did she go?. Central Weekened Live when it was on was much more entertaining.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Invoking Article 50
« Reply #249 on: February 12, 2017, 02:09:30 PM »
That is not surprising.
Looking at some of the small print that David Davies is dropping out some folk are in for a shock should they be fortunate enough to live that long.
It is best not to watch Question Time. It's the same tired old format Lefty Righty Middly politicos; lefty or righty writer a professional comedian and an advertised for audience. Just like the Freddie Grisewood chaired Steam Radio jobby of years ago. Whatever happened to Russell "bring in the troops" Braddon I wonder?....replaced by Mel Phillips? and where did she go?. Central Weekened Live when it was on was much more entertaining.

So, what you are saying is Questions Time isn't a comedy? FFS aww. I voted brexit because my Romain lettice wasn't from Romania! I mean It's just not on, trying to con me like that.
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