Author Topic: Who, when were Police called to OC? When did they arrive? incl GNR PJ & Interpol  (Read 12926 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

I think two issues here are very important.
1 no mention of abduction even at this time!
2 Kate and Gerry mention shutters and windows - who else saw this? if no one else's saw this then who closed them and why if it was to be considered a 'crime' scene.
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Gerry and Kate were supposedly married, so it was Kate who saw it as a crime scene but her husband didn't think so, it was her husband who closed the window and it was her husband who lowered the shutters and then went around the outside and her husband found they could be lifted from the outside.

Gerry obviously misread the situation and stuffed it up IMO.  OK he can make up excuses about the draughts on the children sleeping in the cots etc. but he is only human.
Amy Tierney saw the window open and the shutters raised, and I don't think GNR Officer Roque ever had a chance to talk to her that night.
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Offline Robittybob1

The Consulate were involved from half past midnight;

0.29.37 am Angela Morado at UK Consulate calls Gerry (4.53 minutes)
0.47.41 am Angela Morado at UK Consulate calls Gerry (2.15 minutes)
1.16.11 am Gerry calls A. M. UK Consulate(1.57 minutes)
7.15.19 am Gerry calls Angela Morado UK Consulate (4.51 minutes)
8.35.15 am Gerry calls Angela Morado, UK consulate (1.43 minutes)
8.50.27 am Gerry calls Angela Morado, UK consulate (4.47 minutes)
Well obviously they are involved before that too.  Someone must have told the Consulate before "0.29.37 am" as Angela wouldn't just ring Gerry without reason!
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Offline G-Unit

Well obviously they are involved before that too.  Someone must have told the Consulate before "0.29.37 am" as Angela wouldn't just ring Gerry without reason!

His sister Patricia and Kate's uncle Brian Kennedy were phoning the FCO, the Embassy and the Consulate. No doubt they gave his number out.
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Offline Robittybob1

His sister Patricia and Kate's uncle Brian Kennedy were phoning the FCO, the Embassy and the Consulate. No doubt they gave his number out.
What is the FCO again?   Foreign & Commonwealth Office - GOV.UK
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Are you married or have you ever been married?
Gerry and Kate were supposedly married, so it was Kate who saw it as a crime scene but her husband didn't think so, it was her husband who closed the window and it was her husband who lowered the shutters and then went around the outside and her husband found they could be lifted from the outside.

Gerry obviously misread the situation and stuffed it up IMO.  OK he can make up excuses about the draughts on the children sleeping in the cots etc. but he is only human.
Amy Tierney saw the window open and the shutters raised, and I don't think GNR Officer Roque ever had a chance to talk to her that night.
But Roque must have been sufficiently convinced it could be an abduction he issued the "yellow alert" as someone called it, or is it a "Yellow Notice".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm  from the alphabetical list "MADELEINE PASSPORT & DISAPPEARANCE INFO"

"From the GNR
Brigade n? 3
Portimao

NUIPC 201/07 GALGS



REPORT OF NEWS OF DISAPPEARANCE

Responsible Officer: Jos?Mar? Batista Roque

Person denouncing: McCann Gerald Patrick
Passport n?
Residence: Orchard House

Disappeared Person

Name: Madeleine Beth McCann
Feminine sex, white. Date of birth: 12-05-2003

Height about 0.90 mt. Colour of eyes, blue left eye, greenish right eye with brown.

Blond hair with chestnut tips touching the shoulders.

Daughter of Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Healy.

Single, BC N? issued on 04-08-2003.

Resident of Leicester. UK.

Residence: Orchard House and temporarily since 28th April, in apartment 5 A, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.

Tel:
Profession:
Place of work:

Individual markings: small chestnut birthmark on left leg.

Date of disappearance: 03-05-2007 between 21.30 and 22.00.

Probable causes: from apartment 5 A, Ocean Club Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.when she was sleeping in one of the bedrooms whose window faced the parking area of the respective block together with her two year old twin siblings. The possibility of abduction was raised by the parents, given that Jane Tanner, a temporary resident of apartment D5, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva would have seen an individual aged between 30 and 40, about 1.78 m in height, with dark hair, wearing light coloured trousers and a dark shirt, who was carrying a child who appeared to her to be wearing pyjamas and also because of the fact that the shutters of the bedroom in question were raised and the window open. The Portimao PJ were contacted, two inspectors arrived at the scene and proceeded to make inspections.


OBSERVATIONS

(Collect characteristics of personal objects namely watches, rings, false teeth, etc).

On the left leg she has a small chestnut birthmark, she was wearing light coloured pyjamas (top and bottom), with a pink donkey design on the bottoms with the letters ON and she was barefoot.

Signed in Lagos

4th May 2007

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Offline G-Unit

 &%%6
But Roque must have been sufficiently convinced it could be an abduction he issued the "yellow alert" as someone called it, or is it a "Yellow Notice".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm  from the alphabetical list "MADELEINE PASSPORT & DISAPPEARANCE INFO"

"From the GNR
Brigade n? 3
Portimao

NUIPC 201/07 GALGS



REPORT OF NEWS OF DISAPPEARANCE

Responsible Officer: Jos?Mar? Batista Roque

Person denouncing: McCann Gerald Patrick
Passport n?
Residence: Orchard House

Disappeared Person

Name: Madeleine Beth McCann
Feminine sex, white. Date of birth: 12-05-2003

Height about 0.90 mt. Colour of eyes, blue left eye, greenish right eye with brown.

Blond hair with chestnut tips touching the shoulders.

Daughter of Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Healy.

Single, BC N? issued on 04-08-2003.

Resident of Leicester. UK.

Residence: Orchard House and temporarily since 28th April, in apartment 5 A, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.

Tel:
Profession:
Place of work:

Individual markings: small chestnut birthmark on left leg.

Date of disappearance: 03-05-2007 between 21.30 and 22.00.

Probable causes: from apartment 5 A, Ocean Club Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.when she was sleeping in one of the bedrooms whose window faced the parking area of the respective block together with her two year old twin siblings. The possibility of abduction was raised by the parents, given that Jane Tanner, a temporary resident of apartment D5, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva would have seen an individual aged between 30 and 40, about 1.78 m in height, with dark hair, wearing light coloured trousers and a dark shirt, who was carrying a child who appeared to her to be wearing pyjamas and also because of the fact that the shutters of the bedroom in question were raised and the window open. The Portimao PJ were contacted, two inspectors arrived at the scene and proceeded to make inspections.


OBSERVATIONS

(Collect characteristics of personal objects namely watches, rings, false teeth, etc).

On the left leg she has a small chestnut birthmark, she was wearing light coloured pyjamas (top and bottom), with a pink donkey design on the bottoms with the letters ON and she was barefoot.

Signed in Lagos

4th May 2007

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Amaral asked for the yellow alert, not Roque.
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Offline Robittybob1

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Amaral asked for the yellow alert, not Roque.
Could well be, but the "REPORT OF NEWS OF DISAPPEARANCE" is signed off by Roque the GNR Officer.
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Offline G-Unit

Could well be, but the "REPORT OF NEWS OF DISAPPEARANCE" is signed off by Roque the GNR Officer.

As the first one at the scene he quite properly produced a report of what he heard and saw. The report was passed to the PJ.
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But Roque must have been sufficiently convinced it could be an abduction he issued the "yellow alert" as someone called it, or is it a "Yellow Notice".

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm  from the alphabetical list "MADELEINE PASSPORT & DISAPPEARANCE INFO"

"From the GNR
Brigade n? 3
Portimao

NUIPC 201/07 GALGS



REPORT OF NEWS OF DISAPPEARANCE

Responsible Officer: Jos?Mar? Batista Roque

Person denouncing: McCann Gerald Patrick
Passport n?
Residence: Orchard House

Disappeared Person

Name: Madeleine Beth McCann
Feminine sex, white. Date of birth: 12-05-2003

Height about 0.90 mt. Colour of eyes, blue left eye, greenish right eye with brown.

Blond hair with chestnut tips touching the shoulders.

Daughter of Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Healy.

Single, BC N? issued on 04-08-2003.

Resident of Leicester. UK.

Residence: Orchard House and temporarily since 28th April, in apartment 5 A, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.

Tel:
Profession:
Place of work:

Individual markings: small chestnut birthmark on left leg.

Date of disappearance: 03-05-2007 between 21.30 and 22.00.

Probable causes: from apartment 5 A, Ocean Club Rua Agostinho da Silva, Praia da Luz.when she was sleeping in one of the bedrooms whose window faced the parking area of the respective block together with her two year old twin siblings. The possibility of abduction was raised by the parents, given that Jane Tanner, a temporary resident of apartment D5, Ocean Club, Rua Agostinho da Silva would have seen an individual aged between 30 and 40, about 1.78 m in height, with dark hair, wearing light coloured trousers and a dark shirt, who was carrying a child who appeared to her to be wearing pyjamas and also because of the fact that the shutters of the bedroom in question were raised and the window open. The Portimao PJ were contacted, two inspectors arrived at the scene and proceeded to make inspections.


OBSERVATIONS

(Collect characteristics of personal objects namely watches, rings, false teeth, etc).

On the left leg she has a small chestnut birthmark, she was wearing light coloured pyjamas (top and bottom), with a pink donkey design on the bottoms with the letters ON and she was barefoot.

Signed in Lagos

4th May 2007

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So her height was estimated as about 90cm in the period that Roque was with Kate and/or Gerry, pre-dating their 4th May statements.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

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Amaral asked for the yellow alert, not Roque.
The request to Interpol is dated 8th May 2007 ... I have already asked Slarti on this thread how many borders could Madeleine have been taken over in that timescale?
Maybe you could provide the answer since you mention the yellow alert again.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

The request to Interpol is dated 8th May 2007 ... I have already asked Slarti on this thread how many borders could Madeleine have been taken over in that timescale?
Maybe you could provide the answer since you mention the yellow alert again.
In 5 days one could fly around the Earth using commercial flights.
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Offline G-Unit

The request to Interpol is dated 8th May 2007 ... I have already asked Slarti on this thread how many borders could Madeleine have been taken over in that timescale?
Maybe you could provide the answer since you mention the yellow alert again.

No idea, and off topic imo.
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Offline Robittybob1

Back on topic again then please.  Is everyone happy that it was Matt in the GNR car along with Gerry and Silvia even though Matt fails to mention his own presence in the car.
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Offline G-Unit

Back on topic again then please.  Is everyone happy that it was Matt in the GNR car along with Gerry and Silvia even though Matt fails to mention his own presence in the car.

I agree that Matt was at Main Reception with Gerry when the GNR arrived, although he's very vague as to how he came to be there, isn't he? Silvia says all three of them were taken to 5A in the GNR car.
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I agree that Matt was at Main Reception with Gerry when the GNR arrived, although he's very vague as to how he came to be there, isn't he? Silvia says all three of them were taken to 5A in the GNR car.
And so do the GNR officers.
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