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Offline John

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 03:46:14 PM »
I like NGB.
But he's damaging his credibility IMO. He keeps saying that I am wrong on the blue forum, when I am not - and there are statements from the CCRC in the public domain that show I'm right.

The defence DID use hearsay in the CCRC submissions.

Any denial of this goes against what the CCRC said - showing that either 1) Simon doesn't know what hearsay is or 2) Someone is being mis-leading on purpose.

Credibility?  Neil Bellis?  Are you for real Mat?

He ran just about every company he has ever been involved with into the ground after managing to liquidate substantial assets from them beforehand which just happened to end up in his own bank account through some fancy footwork.  I will be doing my utmost to ensure that those poor souls who lost their investments and careers on the back of his mismanagement are suitably compensated.



 
« Last Edit: September 10, 2012, 09:26:02 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sika

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 03:58:25 PM »
I can't understand for the life of me why you bother with the blue forum.  As soon as you start to question their crazy bullshit theories they attack you.  They have not an ounce of commonsense between them.  They libel and slander anyone who stands in their way and show absolutely no compassion for the extended Bamber family.  I'm surprised that there hasn't been an attempt to have it shut down.

Offline ActualMat

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 04:39:03 PM »
Guys did I post the full CCRC statement here? I have it paraphrased on a notepad and the word hearsay was used, I know the CCRC said that. Was it on their twitter account?

Offline Andrea

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 10:30:41 PM »
Guys did I post the full CCRC statement here? I have it paraphrased on a notepad and the word hearsay was used, I know the CCRC said that. Was it on their twitter account?

The word hearsay was used i remember seeing that somewhere too.

Offline John

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2012, 10:43:32 PM »
Guys did I post the full CCRC statement here? I have it paraphrased on a notepad and the word hearsay was used, I know the CCRC said that. Was it on their twitter account?

I remember reading that the full statement of reasons was to remain confidential Mat?

Is this what you are referring to?


The CCRC have issued their grounds for not referring Jeremy Bamber’s case back to the appeal court these are the main points stated in their documentation.

• Fragmented bullet swapped from Sheila Caffell’s body – CCRC said this was available at trial and therefore cannot be used.

• Photographs showing Sheila Caffell’s body had been moved were not accurate as the police officers on the scene all made statements saying that they didn’t touch or move anything and this is stronger evidence than the photographs.

• Photographs showing that the gun was moved on Sheila Caffell’s body were also inaccurate as the police officers on the scene all made statements saying that they didn’t touch or move anything and this is stronger evidence than the photographs.

• No response to the documentation still held under Public Interest Immunity, 340,000 documents.

• No response to negatives still not released to the defence now totalling over 211.

• No mention of the evidence showing that Peter Eaton, Ann Eaton, David Boutflour and Robert Boutflour’s statements conflict with contemporaneous dates showing when the sound moderator was found which was 34 days after the killings and not 3 days after as they said in court.

• No mention of the nail polish chipped from Sheila Caffell appearing at the ‘alleged’ struggle in the kitchen

• No mention about the two sound moderators and how these were merged together by police officers.

• The CCRC found another photometry expert who questioned Peter Sutherst’s methodology in establishing that the scratch marks were not present in the original crime scene photographs. (Jeremy Bamber intends to use Amped 5 software to further support Peter Sutherst’s findings) Nevertheless, Peter Sutherst is one of the UK’s most eminent specialists in this field with over 50 years experience.

Final note: Jeremy has said that he has found the CCRC to be entirely unprofessional in their approach to the evidence submitted from Peter Sutherst as they did not address any problems with his methodology and discuss this with the Defence.

Jeremy Bamber has large teams of people who work for him, these are from many different backgrounds and countries, some are friends and many others offer their professional services pro-bono and want to see justice done. There is currently a mountain of further evidence which Jeremy Bamber will submit to the CCRC in his fight for freedom. The law must bring those to justice who have fabricated evidence in this case. Not one of us or Jeremy will ever give up until this innocent man is set free and justice is finally done.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2012, 10:46:59 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2012, 10:55:05 PM »
Also...                ....could this be where the hearsay come in?

The Criminal Cases Review Commission said that despite a lengthy and complex investigation, it "has not identified any evidence or legal argument that it considers capable of raising a real possibility that the Court of Appeal would quash the convictions".

The Commission said this was its final decision in its longest-running case.

Giving its reasons in a 109-page statement, it said: "Matters of pure speculation or unsubstantiated allegation constitute neither new evidence nor new argument capable of giving rise to a real possibility that the Court of Appeal will quash a conviction.

"Neither can such a real possibility arise from the accumulation of multiple unsubstantiated allegations.

"The Commission is satisfied that nothing in the submissions made by and on behalf of Mr Bamber or any issues raised in the recent documentary can, either individually or cumulatively, give rise to a real possibility that the Court of Appeal would find any of Mr Bamber's convictions to be unsafe."



http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=314.msg5881#msg5881
« Last Edit: September 10, 2012, 10:57:57 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Andrea

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 10:57:39 PM »
Thats the one, yes!

Offline Andrea

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2012, 10:59:30 PM »
"Matters of pure speculation or unsubstantiated allegation

basically they mean hearsay!

Offline ActualMat

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 11:57:20 PM »
Thanks, John!

There is a 109 page report (although it's only 89 pages but everywhere says 109 so I think that there must have been something on those missing 20 pages that was only released to the defence) and I think this must have been where I read hearsay. I've certianly seem the CCRC say it, it wasn't face to face, it wasn't what I was told at work, it was written down and I read it on a forum.


But I can't fine it. (although yes Andrea they are basically saying hearsay in their statement!)

Offline John

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 12:20:47 AM »
Thanks, John!

There is a 109 page report (although it's only 89 pages but everywhere says 109 so I think that there must have been something on those missing 20 pages that was only released to the defence) and I think this must have been where I read hearsay. I've certianly seem the CCRC say it, it wasn't face to face, it wasn't what I was told at work, it was written down and I read it on a forum.


But I can't fine it. (although yes Andrea they are basically saying hearsay in their statement!)

Thanks Mat.  Still playing catch up here due to Miss Marple's f..king bullshit earlier.  What a frigging carry on!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2012, 12:35:06 AM »
Of course the 109 (89) page CCRC rejection statement has been sent to Bamber no doubt via the defense team. Bamber along with McKay and his poodle Bellis are quite at liberty to publish the CCRC document if they wish. Somehow I don't think they will wish to though!

Someone at Tesko Towers shoulod ask Nelly Bellis why the defense haven't published the CCRC's decision. You would think if they were so confident of their case they would want the CCRC's  'mistakes' to be available to the public.

Perhaps they will publish after the judicial review has been refused!

Offline ActualMat

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2012, 01:05:05 AM »
Of course the 109 (89) page CCRC rejection statement has been sent to Bamber no doubt via the defense team. Bamber along with McKay and his poodle Bellis are quite at liberty to publish the CCRC document if they wish. Somehow I don't think they will wish to though!

Someone at Tesko Towers shoulod ask Nelly Bellis why the defense haven't published the CCRC's decision. You would think if they were so confident of their case they would want the CCRC's  'mistakes' to be available to the public.

Perhaps they will publish after the judicial review has been refused!

NGB said that he doesn't think it should be posted whilst there is a JR in action.
When the JR is over, I'll be perstering for it to be posted! :D

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2012, 02:32:30 AM »
Thanks Mat ..... i can understand the defense not publishing the CCRC  decision while the JR is in progress. You should dare them to publish it as soon as the JR rejects Bamber's application.

 8@??)(

Offline ActualMat

Re: Why are the Jeremy Bamber activists so afraid of?
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2012, 04:05:05 PM »
I will! :)