Shane Mitchell’s whereabouts during the course of the entire evening?

[Nicholas]

From memory, she mentions it very briefly -- like it's very incidental and not significant at all -- and rubishes it.

Nicholas, do you think it's possible that LM cycled to the easthouses end of the path after the texts from Jodi on Judith's phone between 1634 - 1639?

For many, SM’s failure to corroborate his younger brother’s alibi was one of the most salient pieces of evidence pointing towards LM’s guilt. Despite this, there doesn’t appear to be much information in the public domain regarding SM’s whereabouts that evening, after his infamous internet session between 1650 - 1716 hrs. The only info that does seem to be available around the issue of his whereabouts in the evening is that he left the house shortly after LM did (at approx 1730/1740 hrs) and, according to CM, he was in and out of the house quite a lot that evening (which CM said was a tad annoying as she was trying to have a fly cigarette, after telling her boys she had quit smoking; she mentions this in a podcast).

If Shane Mitchell was in and out of the house all evening (strongly suspect he was) as stated by compulsive liar Corinne Mitchell what exactly was Shane doing?

[Nicholas]

From memory, she mentions it very briefly -- like it's very incidental and not significant at all -- and rubishes it.

Nicholas, do you think it's possible that LM cycled to the easthouses end of the path after the texts from Jodi on Judith's phone between 1634 - 1639?

Wasn’t it killer Luke Mitchell who first mentioned cycling up the path on his bike to JuJ?

[Nicholas]

I did read very recently on a youtube comment (not the most reliable source, admittedly) that, in addition to fires being lit in the Mitchells’ garden at 1830 and 2200, there was another sighting of burning taking place in their garden at 0200 on 01.07.03 (in which case, it would have to have been SM doing this, since CM & LM were being questioned at the police station at this time). Or was it a joint effort by the two? Were their clothes tested? Were they smelling of smoke? More to the point, which other aspects of the case was SM cross-examined about or what evidence about him was led at court that was separate from his porn site/car site session?

Strongly suspect Shane Mitchell was much more involved in ‘events’ that day and the reason for his silence is through fear of incriminating himself further

[Nicholas]

From memory, she mentions it very briefly -- like it's very incidental and not significant at all -- and rubishes it.

Nicholas, do you think it's possible that LM cycled to the easthouses end of the path after the texts from Jodi on Judith's phone between 1634 - 1639?

Wasn’t it killer Luke Mitchell who first mentioned cycling up the path on his bike to JuJ?

Very plausible killer Luke Mitchell used his bike earlier that day

“What are these new claims that her car was at the West end of this path later that evening? only being heard now?

Why are we not hearing about these reports from these witness's who came forward?

Why is Sandra Lean dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip?

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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/08/killer-luke-mitchell-was-shane-mitchell-disposing-of-evidence-part-117/

[Nicholas]

What happened to the bike that John F’s saw at the East end of the path? on the school railings?

And what did hoaxer Sandra Lean write about what John F said about killer Luke Mitchell’s bike ?

John F stated during the trial after seeing a TV news report about attempts to trace two youths on a motorbike it had left him 'shaking'

Sounds like John F provided the police with information about killer Luke Mitchell and his bike hoaxer Sandra Lean doens’t want her followers to know about

[Nicholas]

Wasn’t it killer Luke Mitchell who first mentioned cycling up the path on his bike to JuJ?

Was he referring to cycling up the path to meet [Name removed]?

[Nicholas]

Was he referring to cycling up the path to meet [Name removed]?

Hoaxer Sandra Lean claimed in her first book on killer Simon Hall that he

“..made his way back to his car, and drove to his parents home”

In reality he remained on foot after first parking his car - ergo he didn’t get back into his car to drive back to his parents home

In reality Killer Luke Mitchell may have been on his bike, as opposed to on foot at the start of the evening

[Nicholas]

And what did hoaxer Sandra Lean write about what John F said about killer Luke Mitchell’s bike ?

John F stated during the trial after seeing a TV news report about attempts to trace two youths on a motorbike it had left him 'shaking'

Para 162 CoA Judgement
‘As the trial judge informs us, the appellant told the police at interview on 4 July 2003 that he and Jodi would sit on the other side of the wall from the Roan's Dyke Path near to the gap in the wall at the junction of the two paths and "have a cigarette or whatever". In the same interview he said that there was "a tiny wee path ... that folk walk along in the inside of that wall", i.e. on the other side from the Roan's Dyke Path. There was evidence, indeed, that just inside a gap in the wall at the junction of the paths stood a small tree with the initials [Name removed] and LM carved in its bark. A witness David Stirling described an occasion in early June 2003 when he was with friends and they met the appellant at the junction of the paths. They went down the inside of the wall (towards the "V") for some distance, then sat and smoked cannabis. Another witness, John [Name removed], said that on two occasions when the appellant telephoned asking for quantities of cannabis, they arranged to meet at the opening in the wall at the junction of the paths. On one of these occasions when they met the appellant said that he was waiting for Jodi.
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

[Mr Apples]

Very plausible killer Luke Mitchell used his bike earlier that day

“What are these new claims that her car was at the West end of this path later that evening? only being heard now?

Why are we not hearing about these reports from these witness's who came forward?

Why is Sandra Lean dismissing these as being wrong or mistaken, or idle gossip?

👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/08/killer-luke-mitchell-was-shane-mitchell-disposing-of-evidence-part-117/

Whose blog is that? Is it yours, Nicholas? Parky41's? Will need to read through it when I have time.

Btw, a relative of mine worked in Shotts Prison for a spell and got to know LM quite well, dealing with him and speaking to him on a daily basis. She indicated that he was likeable, well-mannered, well-spoken and of a nervous disposition, often stuttering in speech and his eyes often blinking almost like a nervous twitch or tick. She also said he was quite small -- around 5ft 4 in height. I found this quite surprising, as he was said to be around this height circa 2003, when he was only 14 years old. I've heard people, Scott Forbes and one of his interviewers who met LM in Polmont YOI when this interviewer was incarcerated there, describe LM as "quite a big laddie who could handle himself". Maybe my female relative was mistaken in terms of his height? Does anyone know how tall LM is?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Luke was at home, alone, making and answering calls prior to the claimed time of the murder. Two points to be made about this - (1) it refutes any suggestion that he didn't go home from school but went to lie in wait for Jodi in the woodland strip (as has been claimed at certain points). (2) In conjunction with the texts with Jodi's mum's phone, it supports the statement that he would not have had enough time to get from his home to the top of the path in time to be the person seen by Andrina Bryson.
His brother called ahead to say he might be late for dinner - in the event, he wasn't late (but did get home later than he would have if he'd come straight home from work). Brother came home, then mum came home. Both said Luke was in the house by the time they both got there (4.50 and 5.15 respectively.
The nonsense about Shane saying he didn't see Luke was brought about by police manipulation of the entire family - even the appeal judges agreed the "evidence," as it was manipulated, would not have been admissible if Shane had been a suspect, but because he was a witness, the same protections didn't apply.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9986.msg451520.html#msg451520

What time does hoaxer Sandra Lean claim Shane Mitchell allegedly ‘called ahead’ ?

Shane Mitchell’s initial evidence was that he arrived home at 3.50pm - so who did he allegedly speak to before that?

Sandra Lean
3:30 -  school finished
4.15 -  Luke called his mother from the home landline to her work landline (his grandmother answered the call before passing it to Corinne, so there are two witnesses plus the phone logs).
4.25 - call from Shane's mobile to the home landline connected for just over a minute. Neither Luke nor Shane remembered this call initially - it wasn't until the phone logs showed it and Shane remembered he'd stopped at a friend's on the way home from work that they realised the call was Shane letting Luke know he might be late home for dinner.]

What time does Sandra Lean claim killer Luke Mitchell got home from school?

And did Shane Mitchell speak to his brother or an answering machine?

Also what was the name of the friend Shane Mitchell allegedly visited on his way home from work and what was did their evidence say?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
And, if Luke left home immediately after the final 4.38 text from Jodi, there would not be enough time for him to be the person at the Easthouses entrance to the path, which is why the suggestion arose that he didn't go straight home from school but, instead, went to the woodland strip to lie in wait for Jodi.


How long would it have taken on killer Luke Mitchell’s bicycle?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Shane had to move out of the area at the time because the threats were so bad.
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9986.msg451813.html#msg451813

There appears to most definitely be more to Shane Mitchell’s involvement in ‘events’ that day

Shane Mitchell was almost ten years older than his sadistic killer brother Luke Mitchell

Why didn’t Shane Mitchell stay living with his mother and brother if they were receiving threats?

And if only Shane Mitchell was allegedly receiving threats  - Why was he allegedly being threatened and what ecavtly were these threats about ?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Shane had no recollection of "watching porn"

But remembered seeing his killer brother Luke ‘mashing tattles’ and remembered he didn’t say anything to Luke about the burning smell ‘cos he did it want to “insult” him?


Did Shane Mitchell move out of the area because he knew what his killer kid brother had done and knew his cruel and callous mother was compulsively lying for him?

[Nicholas]

The only other thing that has been mentioned with regards to SM’s whereabouts after 1730 hrs is that he was caught out lying/fabricating about where he had been that night and that he was allegedly, at one point that evening, 7 miles away somewhere filling his car with petrol.Why so far away? We know that he was in the house at 2240 as he had given LM a torch to go out searching for Jodi with (along with the dog, Mia). But, what was he doing over the entire course of that evening? A lot of focus was placed upon CM as possibly the person who was burning blood-stained, forensically incriminating clothing belonging to her son LM in the Mitchells’ log burner. But, could it have been SM solely who was the person burning said clothing? I did read very recently on a youtube comment (not the most reliable source, admittedly) that, in addition to fires being lit in the Mitchells’ garden at 1830 and 2200, there was another sighting of burning taking place in their garden at 0200 on 01.07.03 (in which case, it would have to have been SM doing this, since CM & LM were being questioned at the police station at this time). .

Sandra Lean
Shane actually stopped off at a friend's on the way home from work to have a look at his car (phone records and receipts for parts for the car) - that wasn't considered "suspicious" and the police accepted that he'd simply forgotten about it.

On what date did Shane Mitchell buy parts for his friends car or did the friend buy the parts for the car and Shane Mitchell fitted them?

And why does hoaxer Sandra Lean suggest ‘phone records and receipts for parts for the car’ is evidence Shane Mitchell stopped off at a friends house?

[Nicholas]

Sandra Lean
Shane was more than harassed from the off - the police were constantly bulldozing him to say what they wanted to hear. The day he was arrested "on suspicion of perverting the course of justice," they let him leave the family home in order to drive into a police road-block just yards from the house.

Corinne didn't "virtually disown him." https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9986.msg451829.html#msg451829

‘Harassed’ by who? His mother Corinne Mitchell?

Did Shane Mitchell ‘disown’ his mother?