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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1095 on: April 05, 2020, 09:12:24 PM »
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Many have asked me too but I won’t distinguish between innocent and guilty prisoners as prison is to take away a prisoner’s liberty not their life to something like coronavirus that @RobertBuckland. HM Prison Service and all prison staff have a duty of care to protect against.


Would be interested to learn how Dr Michael Naughton distinguishes between ‘innocent and guilty’ and why he appears to have backtracked having blatantly contradicted himself

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At the very least, all prisoners maintaining innocence past tariff should be bailed until the coronavirus crisis is over. They have served their time as required by the courts & the authorities need to ask what do they have to gain by saying they are innocent if they are not?!

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Should the @ccrcupdate not be involved in the call for innocent prisoners to be released from prison so they reduce their risk of contracting and/or being killed by coronavirus as it is the publicly funded body established by Parliament to help victims of miscarriages of justice?

I don’t believe Dr Michael Naughton hasn’t joined the dots in the Simon Hall case and that it serves his purpose and personal agenda to attempt to deceive his unsuspecting audience (As it appears to me)

I don’t know if Laurence Cawley from the BBC misunderstood Dr Michael Naughton when he wrote,

“Dr Michael Naughton told how he received a letter last week from Hall's wife Stephanie telling him her husband had admitted the murder and asking him to close the case down.

or whether Dr Michael Naughton misled Mr Lawrence Cawley by claiming to have received a ‘letter’ from me?

But for the record no ‘letter’ was sent by me. The fact is Neil Bellis helped me communicate with both the CCRC and Dr Naughton regarding Simon Halls guilt via an email.

And Dr Michael Naughton chooses to omit the fact he phoned me following my email to him and that we had a lengthy chat about Simon Halls guilt
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1096 on: April 05, 2020, 10:11:26 PM »
And let’s not forget Dr Michael Naughton also claimed publicly in 2013,

“It is quite sad in terms of the waste of resources and the distress to (Mrs Albert's) family members when it turns out like this."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-23630287

His recent comments on the Simon Hall case suggest the above was nothing more than a throw away comment

Appears Dr Michael Naughton would benefit from some work on his self awareness, maybe then he’d quit giving his ‘followers’ mixed messages;

Michael’s research is highly interdisciplinary straddling critical criminology, criminal law and procedure, criminal appeals, penology and zemiology. It centres on the injustices and wider social harms relating to the dominant discourses, structures, procedures and operations of the criminal justice system. He has researched and written extensively on the causes, scope and harmful consequences of “miscarriages of justice” and the limitations and/or outright failings of the criminal justice system in dealing with factually innocent victims of wrongful conviction and/or imprisonment.
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/law/people/michael-j-naughton/index.html

Another ‘waste of resources’ case which appears some within the ‘miscarriage of justice’ arena were, at least up until 2017, still in denial over

”On Wednesday, in a preliminary hearing in London, three top judges said their case would not be heard until at least February next year.
Lady Justice Hallett said the men’s cases involve reams of documents dating back decades and hours of tape-recorded interviews.
The cases are due in court after a reference by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the body which investigates potential miscarriages of justice.

“The CCRC says there is a chance that Charlton’s murder conviction and Ali’s manslaughter verdict are “unsafe”.
It has previously been revealed that part of the appeals will revolve around the detectives who were involved in the inquiry.
Craig Macgregor, for Charlton, said the “vulnerability” of a key prosecution witness could be central.
Charlton’s mental state could also feature, he said, as there are suggestions he was not actually fit to stand trial.
If we look at Charlton now, he suffers from a mental health problem,” he said.
“From that, the psychiatrist may be able to discover what he was like at the time of the trial. He is now suffering from a bipolar condition.”
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/body-carpet-teen-murder-pair-9663295


Alleged ‘bipolar’ or not Alan Charlton was a convicted rapist https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1jSOLUCiKnIC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=idris+ali+manslaughter+Dr+Gudjonsson&source=bl&ots=CdYZOrqGQZ&sig=ACfU3U2pBdVI_A8H501ysrfqecp4awErxg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj9lIXoyNLoAhWMa8AKHYLFBqcQ6AEwA3oECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

On 26th Feb 2014 the CCRC referred the murder conviction of Alan Charlton to the CoA stating,

“The commissions referral is based in part on new evidence that a number of officers from South Wales Police who were involved in the Lynette White murder inquiry (the Cardiff Three case), and the Philip Saunders murder inquiry[3] (the Cardiff Newsagent Three case), were also involved in Mr Charlton’s case and may have used investigative techniques similar to those used in the Lynette White and Philip Saunders cases and which contributed to the quashing of the convictions in those cases”
https://ccrc.gov.uk/commission-refers-the-murder-conviction-of-alan-charlton-to-the-court-of-appeal/

The CoA judgement can be found here https://t.co/u2EkYWPzj5?amp=1

Paras 63 - 72 give some background, though worth reading in its entirety

126. We begin with a few general comments. First, as Mr Whittam QC for the Crown observed, there are highly significant differences between this case and the other two cases. Those differences have been wrongly dismissed as irrelevant by Ms Blackwell. None of the prosecution witnesses in this case has retracted their evidence, in contrast to the cases of O’Brien, Hall and Sherwood and Paris, Abdullahi and Miller. In particular, the main prosecution witness who was present at the time KP was killed (D) has not retracted her evidence. The CCRC, who did not apparently seek D’s comments, speculate that she would not now retract her evidence for fear of the consequences. With respect, that is a leap in the dark and one for which we can find no justification. There is absolutely no reason to suppose that D, many years on, would not admit, had it been true, that her evidence to the jury was false and extracted from her under intolerable pressure. Furthermore, we have no clear breaches of PACE and its Code in the treatment of the Appellants of the kind that troubled the courts in O’Brien and others and Paris and others. There are no failures of disclosure and nothing to suggest documents may have been altered or deliberately mislaid. If the handwritten version of a statement of a witness (D’s third statement) is missing and other records are no longer available there appears to be a perfectly legitimate explanation for that fact: the passage of time. It does not raise the suspicions suggested in the CCRC report or by Ms Blackwell.

127. Secondly, however closed the minds of officers in the Saunders and White investigations, we consider that the investigation into KP’s death was extraordinarily thorough. Approximately 80 officers were seconded to the inquiry and every relevant expert consulted. The HOLMES database revealed many hundreds of potential witnesses spoken to, 733 statements taken, 252 reports made, 644 other documents produced, 495 messages logged and 3550 actions listed. The senior officer in overall charge of the case (who is not the subject of any criticism) participated in a Crimewatch programme in February 1990 featuring a reconstruction of KP’s usual movements. The appeal was for any information that might assist. This does not suggest a close minded investigation. We further note that the very thorough inquiry has been examined in depth by the CCRC and by counsel for the appellants; they have not identified a single significant lead that was not pursued . The fact that officers continued to gather more evidence after Charlton had been identified by D is in no way deserving of criticism. We would be surprised if that was not the case. Gaps in the evidence are often filled in this way.

128. Thirdly, the fact that Charlton featured prominently in the investigation is hardly surprising given the location of the grave. The officers would have been failing in their duty if they had not considered him of significant interest given his occupancy of flat, and closeness to where the body was found. Nevertheless, they investigated as best they could the identity and whereabouts of all occupants of the house, eventually tracing all rent paying occupants.

129. Fourthly, we are also not surprised that the police formed the view D was central to their investigation. There appeared to be an interesting link between her and KP, their absconding from the home and their lifestyles. A further and possibly significant link then became apparent between Charlton and D.

130. Fifthly, a number of Ms Blackwell’s submissions were based on pure speculation, no doubt because she was relying on the CCRC’s findings and they frequently used the expression “it is possible to speculate” to justify those findings in their report. Speculation is no basis for an appeal.

131. Sixthly, Ms Blackwell (and the CCRC) invited us to draw the inference from the fact of police misconduct in other investigations that there must have been police misconduct in the KP investigation so that all the evidence against Charlton is tainted. This line of argument misses the point of decisions such as Willis, Crook and Foran, all of which emphasise the need to consider the facts of each case.

Treatment of D
132. That brings us to the treatment of D. She was a witness, not a defendant. Yet, the CCRC commented at paragraph 193 of its reference in Charlton’s case:

“It is highly unusual, the Commission considers, for a voluntary witness to be questioned at a police station throughout the night, during which time a “breakthrough” witness statement is obtained. The Court of Appeal was critical of the same scenario in relation to Idris Ali, who was being questioned under similar conditions at the same time as D. Arguably, it would be anomalous to take a different view of D’s treatment that night, merely on the basis of any legal distinction between the treatment of a defendant and the position of a witness.”

133. It is not anomalous to treat witnesses and suspects differently for the reasons we have endeavoured to explain under the heading ‘Legal Framework’. So, for example, officers may speak to potential witnesses “off the record” in a way they would not be able to do with suspects. As a general rule they do not need to provide a witness with legal representation or keep records of their time at a police station in the same way they keep custody records. They should, of course, treat all those they interview with respect and dignity and ensure vulnerable witnesses in particular receive appropriate consideration. However, their duties towards witnesses and suspects are different. With respect, both Ms Blackwell and the CCRC repeatedly failed to acknowledge sufficiently this clear distinction in law and practice

212. The law is clear: only in exceptional circumstances will the court entertain an appeal against a conviction based on an unequivocal plea of guilty. There is nothing exceptional here. Whatever may have led to Ali’s admissions while in police custody, according to Mr Rees, Ali was put under no pressure by anyone prior to entering his plea, which he did of his own free will. He was street wise and experienced in the criminal justice process. He was fit to plead, knew what he was doing, intended to plead guilty to manslaughter and did so without equivocation having received proper advice from counsel and solicitors. That advice would not have been significantly affected by the new material. He was offered no inducement and placed under no pressure by anyone. Mr Rees went through the basis of plea with him line by line. His plea confirmed the evidence of D and what he said to others in an unpressurised situation. He made no attempt to appeal his conviction until the CCRC contacted him and with nothing to lose and possibly with a lot to gain he accepted their invitation to examine the circumstances of his case


The following April 2017 article in the justice gap https://www.thejusticegap.com/ccrc20-police-can-no-wrong/ refers to the author as ‘the Cardiff Law School Innocence Project’


Excerpts:
“So, the CCRC couldn’t persuade the Court of Appeal of the unsafety of this conviction, although the case boasts such clear similarities to police misconduct unearthed in the infamous Cardiff Three and Cardiff Newsagent Three cases. What hope, then, do we have in our cases where the CCRC knows that the bar to persuade the Court of Appeal of unsafety is of Everest proportions? Close to nil, has to be the frank answer.

This is all such a shame (in every sense of that word) in the light of the Hillsborough debacle, from which we know that there are cases of police malpractice on an industrial scale at the highest level. We’re not suggesting that all police investigations are corrupt – far from it. We have direct recent experience of South Wales Police showing signs of willingness to work with us to get to the bottom of cases involving allegations against their force. Time will tell how that pans out, but early signs are very encouraging – at the highest level, there is open recognition of past issues within the force and that these have to be tackled.

So, against the background of the Ali and Charlton appeal, our next article is going to look at one of our cases involving problems with the police investigation. It shows, in our view and in that of two independent police experts, very suspicious police conduct. It also shows how we have failed to persuade the CCRC (to the quote the Court of Appeal) ‘to leave no available stone of the investigation unturned’. Smarting from the Ali/Charlton referral, it’s not hard to see why.

But is that good enough? What does the CCRC see as its role as a general watchdog of the criminal appeals system? How does it react, if at all, when the Court of Appeal refuses to overturn a conviction that the CCRC considers may be unsafe? If it does nothing on the basis that the CCRC is not the decision maker (which is of course correct), then that in itself throws up wider ethical issues.

If it’s not the CCRC’s role to stand up to the issue of potential police misconduct as considered by the Court of Appeal, then whose role is it? Politicians? We, and many others, have raised this issue with the House of Commons Justice Select Committee in recent years, and currently with the Law Commission. But there’s a distinct lack of political will to review this unsatisfactory area of our criminal justice system.

We know from Hillsborough that police malpractice can and does occur on an industrial scale, and at the highest level. We should deal with this honestly rather than fostering a climate of resigned acceptance. Our concern is for lone individuals wanting to challenge a conviction. In the Hillsborough campaign, there were 96 families and a community behind them to give the momentum to fight on for 27 years. Yet if police malpractice featured in individual convictions, why should that be ignored? We call upon the CCRC to make a public stance on such issues where it considers that a miscarriage of justice may have occurred. It’s simply not good enough for them to pass the buck back to the Court of Appeal, recycling the problem without resolution.

If the CCRC is to be an effective watchdog for the wrongfully convicted, and there are many more of those languishing in prison, then it must put pressure on the government to legislate for an effective appeal system that will release the CCRC from its current statutory bind.“



Who is the actual author of the above article and why does it appear they are finding it so difficult to recognise they’ve clearly been conned by Alan Charlton ?

And why were they calling on the CCRC to make a ‘public stance‘ instead of recognising the error of their ways?

The fact the CCRC referred to the so called Cardiff Newsagent 3 case ie: Michael O’Brien, Darren Hall and Ellis Sherwood in the Alan Charlton case suggests the Commission were then still playing catch up. These men have yet to prove they are factually innocent. Darren Hall confessed to police that he’d acted as a lookout for the others during a “robbery that went wrong”.

Paragraph 15 of the Charlton/Ali judgement mentions an admission in prison by Charlton to another inmate where he was alleged to have said he raped and strangled KP in the presence of Ali. Paragraphs 16 onwards detail Idris Ali’s taped police interviews. Para 27 lists further evidence of admissions.

Incidentally Dr Gisli GudJonsson was used by the CCRC in the Barry George case https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/03/jilldando.ukcrime, the Charlton/Ali case and the so called Cardiff Newsagent 3 case https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WWg3DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT141&lpg=PT141&dq=dr+tunstall+confessional+evidence&source=bl&ots=wkuXI0l0FP&sig=ACfU3U3HN14lP3H1PP1y8VjYp0qLhNWYzA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwisgKfXz9LoAhUvQEEAHXydAGsQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr%20tunstall%20confessional%20evidence&f=false

Dr GudJonsson opinion of lIdris Ali’s ‘nature of vulnerability’ (As he refers to them) were ‘Borderline IQ, compliance & habitual lying’ - page 5 here https://commentary.canlii.org/w/canlii/2006CanLIIDocs133.pdf

Darren Halls read - ‘Personality disorder, compliance, impulsivity, poor self-esteem, habitual lying’

Paul Blackburn’s states, ‘Youth & fatigue’
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1097 on: April 06, 2020, 12:43:24 PM »
Another ‘waste of resources’ case which appears some within the ‘miscarriage of justice’ arena were, at least up until 2017, still in denial over

The following April 2017 article in the justice gap https://www.thejusticegap.com/ccrc20-police-can-no-wrong/ refers to the author as ‘the Cardiff Law School Innocence Project’

Excerpts:
“So, against the background of the Ali and Charlton appeal, our next article is going to look at one of our cases involving problems with the police investigation. It shows, in our view and in that of two independent police experts, very suspicious police conduct. It also shows how we have failed to persuade the CCRC (to the quote the Court of Appeal) ‘to leave no available stone of the investigation unturned’. Smarting from the Ali/Charlton referral, it’s not hard to see why.


Who is the actual author of the above article and why does it appear they are finding it so difficult to recognise they’ve clearly been conned by Alan Charlton ?

And why were they calling on the CCRC to make a ‘public stance‘ instead of recognising the error of their ways?

There appears to be a series of articles on the justice gap website with the hashtag CCRC (#CCRC) before the headers.

The ‘next’ article in the so called ‘#CCRC’ series’ was published on 5th May 2017 headed, ‘#CCRC20: Policing the police’ the author is listed as Julie Price https://www.thejusticegap.com/ccrc20-policing-police/

an excerpt reads,

Our previous article in this series looked at an example of the Court of Appeal declining to overturn a conviction referred to it by the CCRC, based on proven serious misconduct by certain police officers in other similar cases which were subsequently exposed as major miscarriages of justice (here). ’ The link, in brackets, appears to be broken but does suggest the author could be Julie Price; or at least a collaboration including Julie Price

Here’s the news report Julie Price has linked to in her above article;

Former bartender jailed for Carlisle park murder in battle to clear his name
‘A homeless bartender jailed for murdering a fellow down-and-out in a Carlisle park is still protesting his innocence – 12 years into his life sentence.
Thomas Grecian, 50, spent 12 days trying to convince a crown court jury that he played no part in the Bitts Park murder in September 2004 of 56-year-old Jimmy Atkinson, known to his friends as Jim-Bob.
But he was found guilty and jailed for life, the judge telling him he must serve 15 years before he is eligible for release on parole.
His co-defendant Desmond Hanlon, 20, admitted the killing.
During the trial, the court heard how Grecian – an out-of-work bartender – was sleeping rough in the park and mixing with other homeless people, the group spending much of their time drinking.
Mr Atkinson's body was found in undergrowth. He had been stabbed in the heart, lungs and neck.
Grecian's case has been reviewed over several years by students and supervisors involved in the Cardiff University Law School's Innocence Project.
Researchers there have identified a number of issues which they believe raise concerns about the case.
Grecian's bid for freedom is being supported by his friend Rob Cowell, 62, who got to know him when he spent time in prison for selling counterfeit DVDs.
Asked why he is convinced of Grecian's innocence, Mr Cowell, from Chester-le-Street, County Durham, said: “He's an absolutely rock-solid bloke. I don't think he's got a bad bone in his body.
"As far as I'm concerned, he didn't do it.
“I was speaking to Dr Dennis Eady [from the Innocence Project], and I asked him if Tommy had ever varied his story, and he said he hadn't.
"I also know that Tommy would rather stay in prison than ever admit to something he didn't do.
“He's a very mild-mannered sort of person.”
Grecian was linked to the killing in a number of key ways – most crucially through DNA evidence.
Bloodstains from the victim were found on Grecian's clothes and shoes – the result of his friend having had a nosebleed while he was there, said Grecian.
He later bought new clothes at a Carlisle charity shop – an event which the prosecution said amounted to him trying to eradicate vital evidence.
Yet from the start of the trial it was clear that Grecian and his co-defendant were starkly different characters. There was clear evidence that the younger man was involved.
One of Hanlon's fellow hostel residents told the trial: “At 10 pm I heard a tap on my window and Desmond was standing there.
“He said, ‘If you read something in the paper in the morning it will be me.’
“Then he went on to say he had stabbed someone."
Hanlon told the man that he was ‘buzzing’ and was ‘out of his head.’
An education officer at Lancaster Farms Young Offenders Institute - where Hanlon was held on remand while awaiting trial - said he told him: “I’m mad, boss. I stabbed someone. I watched them die.”
After the murder, police found Hanlon hiding in the arches under Castle Way, his bed a few filthy blankets piled on wooden pallets. He was sleeping there, a knife still clutched in his hand.
By contrast, Grecian portrayed himself as a gentleman; a cultured person who cared about the feelings and welfare of others.
The prosecution had suggested Grecian had argued with Mr Atkinson while witnesses saw him standing up and pointing in “an aggressive manner” before he and Hanlon had ‘forced’ Mr Atkinson into bushes where his body was later found.
Grecian - who once wrote to the then Prime Minister Tony Blair to protest his innocence - challenged his conviction as “unsafe" in 2006, but three top judges rejected his challenge, ruling that the conviction had been “very strong".
The Innocence Project attempted to have the case sent back to the Court of Appeal last year, having raised some concerns about the nature of the original investigation and Hanlon’s confession during the trial.
The Criminal Cases Review Commission rejected the request, arguing that the issues were not relevant to the safety of Grecian's conviction.
Dr Dennis Eady, from Cardiff University's Law School, said its "Innocence Project" had been considering Mr Grecian’s case for a number of years and made two applications on his behalf to the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the body makes the initial assessment of applications to review convictions.
He said: "Our police experts have identified a number of issues concerning the police investigation that appear to raise questions and require an explanation. In our view no satisfactory explanation has been provided.
"We also have concerns that the treatment of the evidence concerning Mr Grecian’s co-defendant made it impossible for him to have a fair trial.”
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/16699993.former-bartender-jailed-for-carlisle-park-murder-in-battle-to-clear-his-name/

Dr Dennis Eady was one of the few people from the ‘miscarriage of justice/wrongful conviction arena’ who chose to publish their quite apparent denial over the exposure of Simon Halls guilt in 2013

His article has since been removed from the Justice Gap website but reproduced for research purposes here
https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2019/07/16/keeping-perspective-continue-the-fight-for-miscarriages-of-justice-by-dr-dennis-eady-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap-6th-sept-2013/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Dennis Eadys article above shows how he supported his denial with attempts to rationalise it.

Rationalisation is the use of feeble but seemingly plausible arguments either to justify something that is difficult to accept or to make it seem ‘not so bad after all'.

There’s a whole series on self deception here https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/hide-and-seek/201203/self-deception-i-rationalization beginning with ‘rationalisation’

Dennis Eady may be ’A truly lovely, lovely gentleman’ as was said about solicitor Glyn Maddocks. If so he could be seen as an easy target by con artists.
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1098 on: April 07, 2020, 11:57:47 AM »
Barry Georges sister Michelle Diskin Bates claimed publicly,

“the Simon Hall confession is a concern because it is already so difficult for true MOJs to be believed by the public; this confession damages the credibility of all those still fighting for justice

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Michael Naughton supported convicted killer Simon Hall - who admitted he was guilty.
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php/tjmk/comments/how_greg_hampikian_abuses_two_positions_of_trust_in_serially_misrepres

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How do you know Simon.Hall confessed ?
Have you seen a confirmed signed confession ?
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1/2 Thank you Wullie, but I suspect you are dealing with an ignorant troll. We never said that Simon Hall WAS innocent. Rather, we investigated his claim of innocence, which is a fundamentally different things, and showed the so called “evidence” to be totally discredited.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1186526810068193281

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I think you would do well to establish if Simon Hall did indeed confess to murder before taking his own life or not.
You do know his wife is implicit in attacking all who claim to be innocent under many anonymous names.
Is there a signed confession or suicide note ?
1:25 AM · Apr 7, 2020·Twitter for Android

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1247319639035650050

Dr Michael Naughton, William Beck and Michelle Diskin Bates all appear to choose to use smear tactics to propound their negative propaganda

The smear campaign is born out of a combination of factors, including the need to be right and have his or her “truth” become the prevailing script, retaining status and standing (making sure that his or her inner hidden shame doesn’t become public), and maintaining control of his or her image.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201906/dealing-the-narcissists-smear-campaign
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1099 on: April 07, 2020, 12:32:06 PM »
Barry Georges sister Michelle Diskin Bates claimed publicly,

“the Simon Hall confession is a concern because it is already so difficult for true MOJs to be believed by the public; this confession damages the credibility of all those still fighting for justice

Why then did Barry Georges sister Michelle Diskin Bates have Simon Halls representative write the forward to her book; ? especially given she appeared to be desperate to be believed

An excerpt from the forward of her book ‘Stand Against Injustice’

Dr Michael Naughton stated “she had no choice but to do as it was what God wanted”


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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1100 on: April 07, 2020, 01:08:50 PM »
Dr Michael Naughton, William Beck and Michelle Diskin Bates all appear to choose to use smear tactics to propound their negative propaganda

The smear campaign is born out of a combination of factors, including the need to be right and have his or her “truth” become the prevailing script, retaining status and standing (making sure that his or her inner hidden shame doesn’t become public), and maintaining control of his or her image.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201906/dealing-the-narcissists-smear-campaign

Almost two decades of research on miscarriages of justice and wrongful convictions, and over a decade of direct engagements with the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) with the Innocence Network UK (INUK) and the University of Bristol Innocence Project,
https://www.thejusticegap.com/please-forgive-me-but-i-wont-be-holding-my-breath/

Yet Dr Michael Naughton hasn’t recognised ‘innocent fraud’ being perpetuated in the UK. I don’t believe it!

Found Dr Michael Naughton’s ‘projections’ in the above article interesting, especially the following statements:

“The devil is always in the detail, of course”

The upshot is that an organisation that was established to assist innocent individuals to overturn their wrongful convictions is now anything but

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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1101 on: April 07, 2020, 01:15:26 PM »
Found Dr Michael Naughton’s ‘projections’ in the above article interesting, especially the following statements:

“The devil is always in the detail, of course”

The upshot is that an organisation that was established to assist innocent individuals to overturn their wrongful convictions is now anything but

And who here

“rather than assert and demonstrate its supposed independence and be bolder in terms of its reviews and the cases that it refers, the CCRC defends and justifies its governing statute that handcuffs it to the appeal courts. In so doing, it is complicit in shielding a criminal justice system that routinely convicts the innocent”

is Dr Michael Naughton claiming to be ‘innocent’ - Robin Garbutt?

He then claims,

“They are left with nowhere to go other than university innocence projects, whose own work is hampered by the need to apply to the CCRC and meet the ‘real possibility’ test”

What cases is he referring to?

Alan Charlton?

Thomas Grecian?

The ‘University innocence projects’ which appear to be magnets to con artists and wolves in sheep’s clothing
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1102 on: April 07, 2020, 01:29:01 PM »
@WullieBeck
Replying to
@harryrag
@EmpowerInnocent
 and
@ccrcupdate
How do you know Simon.Hall confessed ?
Have you seen a confirmed signed confession ?

1:56 AM · Oct 22, 2019·Twitter for Android


William Becks tweet above received one like, from none other than Barry Georges sister Michelle Diskin Bates
https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1186446088716378112

The very same Michelle Diskin Bates who publicly stated,

“the Simon Hall confession is a concern because it is already so difficult for true MOJs to be believed by the public; this confession damages the credibility of all those still fighting for justice

Julie Prices 2013 Justice Gap article headed,

’Simon Hall confession: A time to take stock’

has been reproduced here https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock-by-professor-julie-price-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap/ with all comments (including Michelle Diskin Bates) at foot of article
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1103 on: April 07, 2020, 02:09:52 PM »
William Becks tweet above received one like, from none other than Barry Georges sister Michelle Diskin Bates
https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1186446088716378112

Someone on twitter recently referred to Michelle Diskin Bates brother as ‘a few sandwiches short of a picnic’  she thanked them for defending him ?
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1104 on: April 07, 2020, 02:32:45 PM »
Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Mar 5
Well done Jane on getting this coverage of Robin Garbutt’s claim of innocence in the 10th Anniversary of his conviction. The more noise about alleged wrongful conviction cases the more likely something might be done in response. Keep up the fantastic work!
@ccrcupdate


“Exploitation and objectification’ are also typical narcissistic traits

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
On International Women’s Day, I just want to say thank you to all the wives, partners, mothers, daughters, sisters and female friends who fight tirelessly for justice for wrongly accused, convicted &/or incarcerated innocent men & boys. Keep up the amazing and inspirational work.
10:13 am · 8 Mar 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1236595846063546369
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1105 on: April 07, 2020, 02:44:10 PM »
William Beck
@WullieBeck
Replying to
@Neil_Wilby
@hanksoff03
 and 2 others
I think you would do well to establish if Simon Hall did indeed confess to murder before taking his own life or not.
You do know his wife is implicit in attacking all who claim to be innocent under many anonymous names.
Is there a signed confession or suicide note ?
1:25 AM · Apr 7, 2020·Twitter for Android

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1247319639035650050

Dr Michael Naughton, William Beck and Michelle Diskin Bates all appear to choose to use smear tactics to propound their negative propaganda

The smear campaign is born out of a combination of factors, including the need to be right and have his or her “truth” become the prevailing script, retaining status and standing (making sure that his or her inner hidden shame doesn’t become public), and maintaining control of his or her image.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201906/dealing-the-narcissists-smear-campaign

The character assassination, persistent lies and deception are all done in an attempt to avoid responsibility and to achieve their own ends

William Beck
@WullieBeck
Replying to
@Neil_Wilby
@hanksoff03
 and 3 others
So are you suggesting Keir Starmer is a crank then.
He said the only thing linking Simon Hall to the murder was the flock fibres.
These fibres did not match.
Are you also aware how many people confess to crimes they did not commit.
Where is the confession or suicide note ?
3:05 pm · 7 Apr 2020·Twitter for Android

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1247525795146301441


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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1106 on: April 07, 2020, 03:49:41 PM »
Hanksoff03
@hanksoff03
Feb 23
I care deeply and the more aware I become the more determined I am to do all I can - Freedom for http://RobinGarbuttOfficial.com


Why hasn’t the ‘penny dropped’ for Hanksoff03 that she is another of Robin Garbutts victims?

And why are those around her clearly playing on her emotions as opposed to helping her view the case objectively?

Empowering the Innocent (ETI) @EmpowerInnocent
I know you do, Jane. You are totally committed to the fight against wrongful convictions but we need more like you, many more.


He knows she is in a vulnerable position

“Exploitation and objectification’ are also typical narcissistic traits

Without doubt Jane Metcalfe aka Hanksoff03 is being exploited and not only does she appear to be being groomed and conned by Robin Garbutt but also by William Beck, Dr Michael Naughton & Michelle Diskin Bates  *&^^&

Hanksoff03 Retweeted
William Beck
@WullieBeck
14h
Replying to
@Neil_Wilby
@hanksoff03
 and 2 others
I think you would do well to establish if Simon Hall did indeed confess to murder before taking his own life or not.
You do know his wife is implicit in attacking all who claim to be innocent under many anonymous names.
Is there a signed confession or suicide note ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/with_replies

The above was ‘liked’ & retweeted by Jane Metcalfe (aka Hanksoff03) who appears clearly ‘delusional’ - quite possibly from the psychological abuse she is yet to be consciously aware she has been and is being subjected to. *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1107 on: April 07, 2020, 08:05:02 PM »
Without doubt Jane Metcalfe aka Hanksoff03 is being exploited and not only does she appear to be being groomed and conned by Robin Garbutt but also by William Beck, Dr Michael Naughton & Michelle Diskin Bates  *&^^&

Hanksoff03 Retweeted
William Beck
@WullieBeck
14h
Replying to
@Neil_Wilby
@hanksoff03
 and 2 others
I think you would do well to establish if Simon Hall did indeed confess to murder before taking his own life or not.
You do know his wife is implicit in attacking all who claim to be innocent under many anonymous names.
Is there a signed confession or suicide note ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/hanksoff03/with_replies

The above was ‘liked’ & retweeted by Jane Metcalfe (aka Hanksoff03) who appears clearly ‘delusional’ - quite possibly from the psychological abuse she is yet to be consciously aware she has been and is being subjected to. *&^^&

Michelle Diskin Bates is seen here blatantly feeding into Jane Metcalfe's apparent ‘delusions’ - she’s referring to the ‘Horizon post office scandal’

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Mar 2
Robin Garbutt had this used against him in a murder trial, he was a postmaster. He’s Innocent. The evidence was ‘bad character’ based on the supposed theft! Since there was nothing to link him to the murder, and Horzon was to blame, case should be reviewed. #Hanksoff3 #ccrcupdate


the ‘supposed theft’ that Robin Garbutt is seen here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FOJmgKyrxw telling police was carried out by ‘robber/s’

This is ‘crazy making’ behaviour and it’s how ‘narcs’ attempt to skew reality - it’s nonsensical
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1108 on: April 07, 2020, 08:21:12 PM »
The character assassination, persistent lies and deception are all done in an attempt to avoid responsibility and to achieve their own ends

William Beck
@WullieBeck
Replying to
@Neil_Wilby
@hanksoff03
 and 3 others
So are you suggesting Keir Starmer is a crank then.
He said the only thing linking Simon Hall to the murder was the flock fibres.
These fibres did not match.
Are you also aware how many people confess to crimes they did not commit.
Where is the confession or suicide note ?
3:05 pm · 7 Apr 2020·Twitter for Android

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1247525795146301441

William Beck
@WullieBeck
Mar 3
Replying to
@YouCommon
@Michelle_Diskin
 and 3 others (included in the 3 replies here were the Criminal Cases Review Commission)  @)(++(* and he & his supporters wonder why they’ve knocked him back 6 times   @)(++(*
You were never that deluded sheep were you ?
No you were a plant right from the start to try and discredit innocent claims.
You even went to great lengths by getting married to hide your real intent.
Still never seen any suicide note written by Simon yet.
How about evidence ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1234983214046822402

Some forum members/readers may be familiar with William Beck’s nonsense from the Shirley Mckie forum

from the archives (circa 2007)
http://shirleymckie.com/documents/CaseBeck.pdf
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/shirleymckie/letters-to-alex-salmond-t24.html
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1423.0

And here, 5 days later, is Dr Michael Naughton tweeting to ‘Willie’

Empowering the Innocent (ETI)
@EmpowerInnocent
Mar 8
Good luck if you do make another app to the SCCRC, Willie. Would that be a 7th application? All who know you know that you will never stop fighting for justice for yourself & your family. Innocent victims never give up. SCCRC has referred once, so should be on your side, too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpowerInnocent/status/1236715036317569024

after he’s tweeted the following https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1236678292817817606 seemingly written by the SCCRC ?

It reads,

The Commission is of course well aware that protestations of innocence, even over a long period, are no guarantee of factual innocence. However, the breadth and persistence of the applicants conduct in pursuing his claims of miscarriage of justice are striking and is unlike any other applicant the Commission has encountered. It is therefore a significant..
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #1109 on: April 07, 2020, 10:42:26 PM »
William Beck
@WullieBeck
Mar 3
Replying to
@YouCommon
@Michelle_Diskin
 and 3 others
You were never that deluded sheep were you ?
No you were a plant right from the start to try and discredit innocent claims.
You even went to great lengths by getting married to hide your real intent.
Still never seen any suicide note written by Simon yet.
How about evidence ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/WullieBeck/status/1234983214046822402

What a telling statement

You were never that deluded sheep were you

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