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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Admin on August 05, 2015, 01:55:35 AM
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Eye-scanners used to track terrorists adapted to help search for missing children like Madeleine McCann
MailOnline
4 August 2015
- Devices will be used to scan a person's eye from up to 40 feet away
- Developed by Carnegie Mellon University's College of Engineering in Pittsburgh
- They will check the 'fingerprint' of iris against database of missing people
- Similar technology already used by military to identify suspected terrorists
- Could help find missing children whose appearances have altered
Eye-scanners used to track terrorists are being adapted to help search for missing children.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/04/09/2B151D3900000578-0-Missing_Pictures_of_Madeleine_McCann_show_a_distinctive_smudge_i-a-3_1438676431568.jpg)
Researchers at a Pittsburgh university have developed high-resolution cameras that can be placed at major checkpoints, such as airports and border crossings, to scan a person's iris from 40-feet away.
It means missing people could be identified through their eye's iris, even if their physical appearance has altered drastically.
'This is breakthrough technology for locating missing children, especially victims of human trafficking,' said Marios Savvides, director of the CyLab Biometrics Center at Carnegie Mellon University's College of Engineering.
'Right now law enforcement has only photos of missing children to work with, but appearance can change.'
'We're giving them a biometric that really cannot be altered,' he told Fox News.
The technology could help children like British girl Madeleine McCann who went missing from a holiday apartment in Portugal, eight years ago, just days before her fourth birthday.
Pictures circulated of the blonde youngster focused on a distinctive mark on her right eye that her family hope will still lead to her identification, years later.
But this technology would go beyond anything that could be seen by the naked eye, scientists say.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184725/Eye-scanners-used-track-terrorists-adapted-help-search-missing-children-like-Madeleine-McCann.html
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In order to use this technology, will they not need to have previously made a record of a person's iris ?
Rather sounds as if everyone would need to have this done before it could be used effectively.
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In order to use this technology, will they not need to have previously made a record of a person's iris ?
Rather sounds as if everyone would need to have this done before it could be used effectively.
I wonder how long it would take?
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In order to use this technology, will they not need to have previously made a record of a person's iris ?
Rather sounds as if everyone would need to have this done before it could be used effectively.
With regards to Maddie this is pointless because, Her 'abductor' will either gouge her eyes out or kill her/if that hasn't happened already.
Daddy says it was a great 'marketing ploy'( they are go getter business people now)- it could have been the death nell for her!
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With regards to Maddie this is pointless because, Her 'abductor' will either gouge her eyes out or kill her/if that hasn't happened already.
Daddy says it was a great 'marketing ploy'( they are go getter business people now)- it could have been the death nell for her!
Then blame The PJ. They advertised Madeleine's eye first.
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With regards to Maddie this is pointless because, Her 'abductor' will either gouge her eyes out or kill her/if that hasn't happened already.
Daddy says it was a great 'marketing ploy'( they are go getter business people now)- it could have been the death nell for her!
Take a look at any person's missing page. They all note distinguishing features if there are any.
Ironically, that's one of the few things for which I give credit to Amaral for actually organising as soon as possible, and was approved by the magistrate, to help find her.
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Then blame The PJ. They advertised Madeleine's eye first.
What did they say? That she had a hardly noticeable fleck in her eye which you would only see if you were very close to her?
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Then blame The PJ. They advertised Madeleine's eye first.
On their website. Not in worldwide multimedia campaigns.
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What did they say? That she had a hardly noticeable fleck in her eye which you would only see if you were very close to her?
I never heard the mccanns mention coloboma.....did you
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I never heard the mccanns mention coloboma.....did you
A good marketing ploy.
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A good marketing ploy.
so when did they use the word coloboma
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They didn't need t - they had a whacking great picture to show it
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They didn't need t - they had a whacking great picture to show it
That's right...who thought it up .. someone in advertising?
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So it was published against the will of Gerry McCann? I don't think so.
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So it was published against the will of Gerry McCann? I don't think so.
who suggested that...I would imagine Gerry was very pleased with it...in advertising it would be described as a good marketing ploy
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who suggested that...I would imagine Gerry was very pleased with it...in advertising it would be described as a good marketing ploy
and just as as effective as the Aussies were today. 8)-)))
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who suggested that...I would imagine Gerry was very pleased with it...in advertising it would be described as a good marketing ploy
a) How can that be if "they didn't put too much emphasis" on it (the eye defect) according to Kate Mccann
b) How can a poster campaign with a big "LOOK" on it featuring the eye, in appeals and at press conferences, or the close up of the eye on the official website, early on, and other actions be called "not emphasising"?
c) Google marketing ploy
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a) How can that be if "they didn't put too much emphasis" on it (the eye defect) according to Kate Mccann
b) How can a poster campaign with a big "LOOK" on it featuring the eye, in appeals and at press conferences, or the close up of the eye on the official website, early on, and other actions be called "not emphasising"?
c) Google marketing ploy
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Why, do you think it's a case of "you're just making things up"?
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MORGAN: Madeleine had a very distinctive eye pattern, didn't she? Tell me about that, Kate, in case people see somebody they think may be Madeleine. Tell me about her eye.
K. MCCANN: If I'm honest, we haven't put too much emphasis on her eye, because I think you have to be very close to her to see it. But her eyes are slightly different colors, and one of them has this brown fleck in it. But you do notice, particularly on photographs, but --
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html
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so when did they use the word coloboma
'The 'family' (who surely should have known) told The Lancet;
The McCann family has asked health professionals to look out for Madeleine McCann, a 4-year-old English girl with a coloboma of her right iris, who was abducted while on holiday in Praia Da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007
Gerald McCann spoke to Piers Morgan. Technical term? Didn't think it was? A layperson might say that, but a doctor? Did they never have it checked when they noticed it, knowing there could be complications? Really?;
G. MCCANN: Certainly believe it wouldn't have changed. I think there's been a pattern to be still there. That it's -- the technical term is coloboma, where there's a defect in the iris. I don't think it is actually. I think it's actually an additional bit of color. She certainly had no visual problems.
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a) How can that be if "they didn't put too much emphasis" on it (the eye defect) according to Kate Mccann
b) How can a poster campaign with a big "LOOK" on it featuring the eye, in appeals and at press conferences, or the close up of the eye on the official website, early on, and other actions be called "not emphasising"?
c) Google marketing ploy
I expect that they did not want Madeleine to be self conscious about it, so they tried in normal life not to put any emphasis on it.
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I expect that they did not want Madeleine to be self conscious about it, so they tried in normal life not to put any emphasis on it.
NO Sadie, this was about the search campaign, not their everyday normal life before, honestly
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NO Sadie, this was about the search campaign, not their everyday normal life before, honestly
You dont know that mercury.
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You dont know that mercury.
Just read back to the CNN interview, YES I DO know that
MORGAN: Madeleine had a very distinctive eye pattern, didn't she? Tell me about that, Kate, in case people see somebody they think may be Madeleine. Tell me about her eye.
K. MCCANN: If I'm honest, we haven't put too much emphasis on her eye, because I think you have to be very close to her to see it. But her eyes are slightly different colors, and one of them has this brown fleck in it. But you do notice, particularly on photographs, but --
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html
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Just read back to the CNN interview, YES I DO know that
MORGAN: Madeleine had a very distinctive eye pattern, didn't she? Tell me about that, Kate, in case people see somebody they think may be Madeleine. Tell me about her eye.
K. MCCANN: If I'm honest, we haven't put too much emphasis on her eye, because I think you have to be very close to her to see it. But her eyes are slightly different colors, and one of them has this brown fleck in it. But you do notice, particularly on photographs, but --
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html
That proves nothing.
You said, "NO Sadie, this was about the search campaign, not their everyday normal life before, honestly"
I repeat "You dont know that".
They may have consciously made little of her eye before because they didn'y want to upset her.
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That proves nothing.
You said, "NO Sadie, this was about the search campaign, not their everyday normal life before, honestly"
I repeat "You dont know that".
They may have consciously made little of her eye before because they didn'y want to upset her.
Kate said it was because you have to be very close to her to see it. The problem is that if it wasn't as obvious as people were led to believe by the McCann's early poster campaign, someone could have seen her and dismissed the sighting because there was no obvious coloboma. Oh dear!
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Kate said it was because you have to be very close to her to see it. The problem is that if it wasn't as obvious as people were led to believe by the McCann's early poster campaign, someone could have seen her and dismissed the sighting because there was no obvious coloboma. Oh dear!
trying to make something out of nothing again....how many of the reported sightings mentioned a coloboma...none..
so no sightings were dismissed
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trying to make something out of nothing again....how many of the reported sightings mentioned a coloboma...none..
so no sightings were dismissed
Yes they did;
The woman who reported the sighting said she immediately thought of Madeleine when the young blond-haired girl came into her store with a man on New Year's Eve.
"She had the same eye defect as Madeleine. Only a very small percentage of the population have that and I was just staring at it the whole time to the point I forgot what they had purchased.
"As soon as they left, I looked up an image online to see which eye it was and it was the same eye," she said.
Madeleine has a blemish on her right eye called a coloboma of the iris. Figures suggest it occurs in about 0.007 per cent of the population.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id427.html
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Yes they did;
The woman who reported the sighting said she immediately thought of Madeleine when the young blond-haired girl came into her store with a man on New Year's Eve.
"She had the same eye defect as Madeleine. Only a very small percentage of the population have that and I was just staring at it the whole time to the point I forgot what they had purchased.
"As soon as they left, I looked up an image online to see which eye it was and it was the same eye," she said.
Madeleine has a blemish on her right eye called a coloboma of the iris. Figures suggest it occurs in about 0.007 per cent of the population.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id427.html
did bushra have an eye defect
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did bushra have an eye defect
Have you been taking Sadie's pointers as facts ?
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did bushra have an eye defect
No idea, not the point. You wouldn't know if the vital sighting wasn't reported because the child didn't have an eye defect would you, because it wouldn't have been reported. Duh!
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trying to make something out of nothing again....how many of the reported sightings mentioned a coloboma...none..
so no sightings were dismissed
Making thngs up again?
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Making thngs up again?
Care to clarify that mercury?
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Care to clarify that mercury?
Just saying there have been sightings where the sighters have mentioned the eye defect, some are in the files, others in paper reports, so none is not true
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Just to say AGAIN, the little girl being carried WAS NOT Bushra.
And looked remarkably like Madeleine.
The eye defect is NOT relevant to this sighting cos the little girl was too far away for such a minute thing to be cauht on the image.
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Just to say AGAIN, the little girl being carried WAS NOT Bushra.
And looked remarkably like Madeleine.
The eye defect is NOT relevant to this sighting cos the little girl was too far away for such a minute thing to be cauht on the image.
Who mentioned her?
Please read again. It was claimed NO sightings ever mentioned the eye defect, that statement is wrong, end of,
BTW you have excluded the possibility of photoshopping!! We all know how "dodgy" certain players in this sorry saga were!
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trying to make something out of nothing again....how many of the reported sightings mentioned a coloboma...none..
so no sightings were dismissed
"Whenever someone calls the Queenstown, New Zealand, police to report that they’ve seen a little girl who looks just like Madeleine McCann, the 4-year-old Briton who disappeared from her parents’ holiday villa in Portugal the night of May 3, 2007, police know exactly whom they are talking about. They’ve been called to investigate a Maddie sighting five times in the last five years in the cities of Queenstown, Milton, and Alexandra, and each time they are led to the same young child, who not only shares McCann’s hair coloring and petite stature, but also has the same coloboma in her right eye."
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The point I was trying to make is this;
I see a child who looks like Madeleine. In order to be sure I get close enough to 'look into her eye'. There's no coloboma so I decide it's not her and I don't report it.
That could have happened.
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The point I was trying to make is this;
I see a child who looks like Madeleine. In order to be sure I get close enough to 'look into her eye'. There's no coloboma so I decide it's not her and I don't report it.
That could have happened.
First...if it was Maddie I doubt you would be allowed that close
second...if you were you would see a fleck in her right eye
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Just to say AGAIN, the little girl being carried WAS NOT Bushra.
And looked remarkably like Madeleine.
The eye defect is NOT relevant to this sighting cos the little girl was too far away for such a minute thing to be cauht on the image.
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YOU CAN PROVE THAT OF COURSE ?
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Just saying there have been sightings where the sighters have mentioned the eye defect, some are in the files, others in paper reports, so none is not true
Well, the fact that some reported the fleck in Madeleine's eye proves that people would report the sighting if they saw it doesn't it.
Of course the fleck wasn't the same as the posters, they exaggerated the fleck so that it would be seen at a distance when people looked at the poster, if they had just put a tiny fleck in her eye, no one would have seen it.
If someone DID see it in a child's eye though it would make their sighting even more believable.
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The point I was trying to make is this;
I see a child who looks like Madeleine. In order to be sure I get close enough to 'look into her eye'. There's no coloboma so I decide it's not her and I don't report it.
That could have happened.
If you were close enough to see the fleck in Madeleine's eye and the different colour iris to her other eye wouldn't that and the fact the child resembled Madeleine be enough?
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If you were close enough to see the fleck in Madeleine's eye and the different colour iris to her other eye wouldn't that and the fact the child resembled Madeleine be enough?
How would you know after eight and a half years if she resembled Madeleine ?
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Well, the fact that some reported the fleck in Madeleine's eye proves that people would report the sighting if they saw it doesn't it.
Of course the fleck wasn't the same as the posters, they exaggerated the fleck so that it would be seen at a distance when people looked at the poster, if they had just put a tiny fleck in her eye, no one would have seen it.
If someone DID see it in a child's eye though it would make their sighting even more believable.
Are you saying they changed the appearance of her eye in photographs to exaggerate the 'fleck'? I have seen pictures where there appears to be nothing unusual about her eye whatsoever.
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Are you saying they changed the appearance of her eye in photographs to exaggerate the 'fleck'? I have seen pictures where there appears to be nothing unusual about her eye whatsoever.
Appearances can be deceptive
See:
http://www.clspectrum.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleID=104098
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How would you know after eight and a half years if she resembled Madeleine ?
Difficult, but the whole body and head image + mannerisms and ways of walking, energy levels, enthusiasm etc., would give a picture.
Those eyes are luminescent and very special .... as are the way that the bulge of her cheeks fall like Gerrys.
She does not have the same mouth as her mum, it is noticeably smaller. At certain angles there is a look about her of her Mccann auntie.
Also comparisons to images of her mother aunties, grandparents and Gerry at a similar age would help.
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Difficult, but the whole body and head image + mannerisms and ways of walking, energy levels, enthusiasm etc., would give a picture.
Those eyes are luminescent and very special .... as are the way that the bulge of her cheeks fall like Gerrys.
She does not have the same mouth as her mum, it is noticeably smaller. At certain angles there is a look about her of her Mccann auntie.
Also comparisons to images of her mother aunties, grandparents and Gerry at a similar age would help.
2 things Sadie.
1. How many young blond haired girls have a similar appearance ?
2. Do you how many people share similar genes ?
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2 things Sadie.
1. How many young blond haired girls have a similar appearance ?
2. Do you how many people share similar genes ?
Wot? Like similar DNA do you mean?
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Wot? Like similar DNA do you mean?
I was keeping the questions straightforward Eleanor, i.e. Yes to your question.
IMO as you will be aware Sadie is clutching at straws.
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I was keeping the questions straightforward Eleanor, i.e. Yes to your question.
IMO as you will be aware Sadie is clutching at straws.
No, I don't think that Sadie is clutching at straws, although I don't entirely agree with her. But neither you or I have been there, or put in the effort that she has. So please don't insult her.
None of us knows what Madeleine looks like now. Some of those age progression pictures are awful. But Madeleine will still have a look of herself as a small child. I looked like myself until I was way past eleven.
The likes of me still go on hoping, foolish as that might seem to you.
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No, I don't think that Sadie is clutching at straws, although I don't entirely agree with her. But neither you or I have been there, or put in the effort that she has. So please don't insult her.
None of us knows what Madeleine looks like now. Some of those age progression pictures are awful. But Madeleine will still have a look of herself as a small child. I looked like myself until I was way past eleven.
The likes of me still go on hoping, foolish as that might seem to you.
I thought the police had already dismissed this sighting.
You can hope.
That is your prerogative.
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2 things Sadie.
1. How many young blond haired girls have a similar appearance ?
2. Do you how many people share similar genes ?
1. It depends how discernig your eye is
2. I have no idea, but all I know is that I have never seen two identical people unless twins, when they are very close.
When deciding whether a child is Madeleine, other things would have to be taken into account such as bone mass /petiteness , clarity of skin, mannerisms, energy levels, intellect, posture, length of stride, sense of humour, similarities to parents and close blood relatives .... this isn't complete; such a large group of criteria come together to make the whole.
Some people simply do not have the ability to see the likenesses which are pretty obvious to others.
Now that we know the eyes can be completely camauflaged, we must not be over-ruled by the apparant lack of Coloboma in her eye
http://www.clspectrum.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleID=104098
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http://www.clspectrum.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleID=104098
PROSTHETIC LENSES
Changing Lives With Prosthetic Soft Lenses
Prosthetic soft lenses can provide cosmetic, therapeutic, and psychological benefits to patients who need them.By Mitchell Cassel, OD
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http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig06.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig06.jpg)
With prosthetic lens.
http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig07.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig07.jpg)
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http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig08.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig08.jpg)
With prosthetic lens.
http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig09.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig09.jpg)
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http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig17.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig17.jpg)
with prosthetic lens
http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig18.jpg
(http://www.clspectrum.com/content/archive/2010/April/images/CLS0410_A13_Fig18.jpg)
There are several more examples. Do read the article
Wonderful. Life Changing. Well done Dr Cassel.
This proves that Madeleine might no longer show her Coloboma, but hide it completely.
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1. It depends how discernig your eye is
2. I have no idea, but all I know is that I have never seen two identical people unless twins, when they are very close.
When deciding whether a child is Madeleine, other things would have to be taken into account such as bone mass /petiteness , clarity of skin, mannerisms, energy levels, intellect, posture, length of stride, sense of humour, similarities to parents and close blood relatives .... this isn't complete; such a large group of criteria come together to make the whole.
Some people simply do not have the ability to see the likenesses which are pretty obvious to others.
Now that we know the eyes can be completely camauflaged, we must not be over-ruled by the apparant lack of Coloboma in her eye
http://www.clspectrum.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleID=104098
The sighting has been dismissed.
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These are no ordinary contact lenses. They help people enormously.
But what a disguise for Madeleine !
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These are no ordinary contact lenses. They help people enormously.
But what a disguise for Madeleine !
As Madeleine had no coloboma apparently, she would have no need to hide her eye.
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As Madeleine had no coloboma apparently, she would have no need to hide her eye.
She had a fleck in her eye, which could have been disguised.
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She had a fleck in her eye, which could have been disguised.
I have seen pics with nothing discernible in her eye at all.
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She had a fleck in her eye, which could have been disguised.
Ah, so another believer in sadie's theories. 8**8:/:
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This is a new thread.
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Madeleine may have had her affected eye removed in a Russian clinic, no questions asked, for the right price. If someone paid a fortune to acquire her, a straightforward operation to remove all trace of her rare defect would be a feasible option.
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Madeleine may have had her affected eye removed in a Russian clinic, no questions asked, for the right price. If someone paid a fortune to acquire her, a straightforward operation to remove all trace of her rare defect would be a feasible option.
Now that would cause suspicion wouldn't it?
Child looks like Madeleine, child right age, child has missing right eye Mmmmm
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Now that would cause suspicion wouldn't it?
Child looks like Madeleine, child right age, child has missing right eye Mmmmm
What would be suspicious about a young blonde white girl having an ocular prosthesis & her hair shaved off in a predominantly white country?