Author Topic: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?  (Read 2340 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2017, 11:14:29 AM »
A candle is usually lit, privately, in someone's memory. That would be absolutely appropriate.

Public displays of remembrance for a child none of us knew on the day she met an awful fate is, crass, there is no other word for it.

I light candles for all sorts of reasons.  But then I ever was a bit of a clot.  I don't mind about that.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2017, 11:15:46 AM »
I light candles for all sorts of reasons.  But then I ever was a bit of a clot.  I don't mind about that.

My point is you do it privately.
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Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent themurderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2017, 11:19:44 AM »
My point is you do it privately.

I will tell you all about it when I do.

I would try to find a picture of a lit candle, if only I knew how to post it.

Offline Erngath

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2017, 11:55:11 AM »
A candle is usually lit, privately, in someone's memory. That would be absolutely appropriate.

Public displays of remembrance for a child none of us knew on the day she met an awful fate is, crass, there is no other word for it.

Do you feel the same about all the candles lit and the displays of rememberance for all the Dunblane children who  met an awful fate  and areremembered by people who did not know any of those little ones?

« Last Edit: April 01, 2017, 12:15:02 PM by Erngath »

Offline Angelo222

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2017, 12:16:18 PM »
A candle is usually lit, privately, in someone's memory. That would be absolutely appropriate.

Public displays of remembrance for a child none of us knew on the day she met an awful fate is, crass, there is no other word for it.

It seems to me you would rather she be forgotten?

Lighting a candle, holding a service, posting photographs are all signs of hope and I see nothing crass about that?

Despite our differing views on how she disappeared I believe we are all agreed that she should be found. I suggest we open a special thread as the anniversary approaches where people including guests can leave prayers and messages of hope.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2017, 03:02:29 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Faithlilly

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2017, 12:31:45 PM »
It seems to me you would rather she be forgotten?

Lighting a candle, holding a service, posting photographs are all signs of hope and I see nothing crass about that?

Despite our differing views on how she disappeared I believe we are all agreed that she should be found. I suggest we open a special thread as the anniversary approaches where people including guests can leave prayers and messages of hope.

I would rather she was remembered on her birthday or at Christmas, not on the day she met whatever horrible fate defell her.

Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent themurderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

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Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2017, 12:41:18 PM »
A candle is usually lit, privately, in someone's memory. That would be absolutely appropriate.

Public displays of remembrance for a child none of us knew on the day she met an awful fate is, crass, there is no other word for it.

I am sure there are those on this very forum who will try to dress it up that you are somehow deficient for holding that view. I ain't one of them.
The best thing to do with this thread is can it and let people silently remember, pray for her soul, her return or whatever else they wish to do as a mark of resepct but do it in their own way privately.
This is no place for outpourings of grief real or contrived.
It will only degenerate into the usual mindless "my grief is more profound than yours" routine.
In fact the degeneration along those lines started a few posts ago.
Apart from that Mrs Lincoln how did you like the play?

Offline Erngath

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2017, 01:29:34 PM »
I would rather she was remembered on her birthday or at Christmas, not on the day she met whatever horrible fate defell her.



The children of Dunblane Primary are remembered on the day they met their "horrible fate."

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2017, 01:37:09 PM »
A candle is usually lit, privately, in someone's memory. That would be absolutely appropriate.

Public displays of remembrance for a child none of us knew on the day she met an awful fate is, crass, there is no other word for it.

I agree Faith. It is quite macabre. God knows what happened to her or is still happening to her. If she were my daughter I would certainy not want to'celebrate' commemorate or whatever if  I suspected  her of being abducted by paedophiles. I would want to be left alone with my own thoughts.

Should we have a page for the moors murdered children? when you think about the behaviour of those parents it puts everything into prespective.

This poor child is becoming another Diana. A cash cow even after death or disappared.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2017, 01:39:35 PM »


The children of Dunblane Primary are remembered on the day they met their "horrible fate."


Not on this forum.

Offline Alfie

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2017, 02:09:35 PM »
Aren't we all seeking justice for Madeleine in some form or other?  Why should we not remember that on the day she vanished?  I take it you find public displays of remembrance for the victims of Hillsborough by people who didn't know thm personallyequally crass?  How about remembrance vigils on the anniversary of 9/11 - do you sneer at those too?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 02:52:47 PM by John »
Only asking questions....

Offline Faithlilly

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2017, 02:17:04 PM »
Aren't we all seeking justice for Madeleine in some form or other?  Why should we not remember that on the day she vanished?

Privately, if you so choose, but publicly no.

Does April Jones's mother publicly mark the day her daughter was killed or Denise Bulger or in fact any of the other parents whose children are missing or dead?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 02:53:08 PM by John »
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent themurderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Alfie

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2017, 02:25:26 PM »
Privately, if you so choose, but publicly no.

Does April Jones's mother publicly mark the day her daughter was killed or Denise Bulger or in fact any of the other parents whose children are missing or dead?
I have no idea - but it may have escaped your attention that we know what happened to both those children.  Are you now criticising in advance any attempt by the McCanns to publicly mark the anniversary of their child's disappearance when only this morning you were criticising them for not doing enough recently to highlight it?  Oh dear, they just can't win with you can they, those hapless McCanns.
Only asking questions....

Offline Angelo222

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2017, 03:01:47 PM »
I would rather she was remembered on her birthday or at Christmas, not on the day she met whatever horrible fate defell her.

Like it or not, the tenth anniversary of her disappearance will attract much more attention than any birthday or Christmas.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 02:37:15 PM by John »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Faithlilly

Re: What can we do to remember Madeleine 10 years on?
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2017, 03:29:01 PM »
Like it or not, the tenth anniversary of her disappearance will attract much more attention than any birthday or Christmas.

And we can do nothing about that  but in this little corner of the internet we can.
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent themurderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson