The high speed return to Portimão police station incident.

[Benice]

The call for them to turn round and return immediately to the police station was less than 24 hrs after Madeleine's disappearance and obviously at that early time they would still be hoping to get a call to say that she had been found.   It's pretty obvious to me that the driver also believed momentous news was in the offing - hence his driving like a bat out of hell to get them back there ASAP.

Having built themselves up for whatever news they were going to hear -  when it turned out it was just to look at a photograph they were naturally completely devastated.   Their reaction was nothing to do with the speed of the car.    Anyone who can't understand that has no ability to put themselves in someone else's shoes IMO.


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[faithlilly]

A police man trying to get a mother to the police station in case footage is of her missing daughter and a mother who leaves her three small children so vulnerable that one of them disappears. I know which one I'd view as more criminally culpable.

[faithlilly]

'It was seven-thirty by the time one of the PJ officers drove us away from the police station. Angela Morado came with us. Ten or fifteen minutes into our journey, the police officer had a call from his station. He said something to Angela, who explained that he’d been ordered to return us to the police station straight away. He wasn’t allowed to tell us why. Already driving at quite a scary speed, he suddenly swung the car into a U-turn, floored the accelerator and drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão. I cannot overstate how terrifying this was. Had Madeleine been found? Please God. Was she alive? Was she dead? Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life. I was crying hysterically and praying for all I was worth.

Back at the police station we endured at least another ten minutes of torture in the waiting area before somebody showed us a photograph, clearly taken from CCTV, of a blonde child with a woman in a petrol-station shop. We weren’t told anything about this, just asked whether the little girl was Madeleine. She wasn’t. And that was that. Again we were sent on our way, utterly devastated.'

[Alfie]

A police man trying to get a mother to the police station in case footage is of her missing daughter and a mother who leaves her three small children so vulnerable that one of them disappears. I know which one I'd view as more criminally culpable.

Well when you start being responsible for making laws in Portugal I'll take your opinion seriously, until then.... *&*%£

[G-Unit]

'It was seven-thirty by the time one of the PJ officers drove us away from the police station. Angela Morado came with us. Ten or fifteen minutes into our journey, the police officer had a call from his station. He said something to Angela, who explained that he’d been ordered to return us to the police station straight away. He wasn’t allowed to tell us why. Already driving at quite a scary speed, he suddenly swung the car into a U-turn, floored the accelerator and drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão. I cannot overstate how terrifying this was. Had Madeleine been found? Please God. Was she alive? Was she dead? Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life. I was crying hysterically and praying for all I was worth.

Back at the police station we endured at least another ten minutes of torture in the waiting area before somebody showed us a photograph, clearly taken from CCTV, of a blonde child with a woman in a petrol-station shop. We weren’t told anything about this, just asked whether the little girl was Madeleine. She wasn’t. And that was that. Again we were sent on our way, utterly devastated.'

The parents must have been seated in the back seat together;

'Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life'

Kate would be able to see the speedometer;

'drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão'

The speedometer would not have been in mph, it would have been in kph. 120 kph is 74.6 mph. Hardly life-threatening.

[Mr Gray]

The parents must have been seated in the back seat together;

'Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life'

Kate would be able to see the speedometer;

'drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão'

The speedometer would not have been in mph, it would have been in kph. 120 kph is 74.6 mph. Hardly life-threatening.

It is life threatening
It's a stupid speed on town roads

[stephen25000]

The parents must have been seated in the back seat together;

'Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life'

Kate would be able to see the speedometer;

'drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão'

The speedometer would not have been in mph, it would have been in kph. 120 kph is 74.6 mph. Hardly life-threatening.

That speed is undeniably dangerous, less so to the passengers, if they are wearing seat belts and the vehicle has air bags (they can result in fatalities, if they don't deflate) etc.

Invariably, stats show, obviously more to those hit by cars, that speeds/velocities of 30 mph and above will cause deaths.

[Alfie]

The parents must have been seated in the back seat together;

'Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life'

Kate would be able to see the speedometer;

'drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão'

The speedometer would not have been in mph, it would have been in kph. 120 kph is 74.6 mph. Hardly life-threatening.

Hardly life-threatening?  Would you care to explain why not?

[G-Unit]

It is life threatening
It's a stupid speed on town roads

Who says 'town roads'?

[Mr Gray]

That certainly shows that Kate McCann was clueless.

However, that speed is undeniably dangerous, less so to the passengers, if they are wearing seat belts and the vehicle has air bags (they can result in fatalities, if they don't deflate) etc.

Invariably, stats show, obviously more to those hit by cars, that speeds/velocities of 30 mph and above will cause deaths.

Above 30
And the pj were driving at above 70
And gunit says that's not life threatening
Tell that to all the parents whose children have been killed by speeding motorists

[Alfie]

Where have policeman broke the law in the McCann case ?

https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/portugal/transport/driving/speed-limits

[Alfie]

Who says 'town roads'?

You have assumed Kate made a mistake regarding the speed the car travelled, you assumed she doesn't understand the difference between KMPH and MPH, and that she didn't calculate the MPH when writing her book for her largely British and American readership.  Care to explain upon what have you based your assumption, seeing as how you don't do assumptions?

[Alfie]

Who says 'town roads'?

Would I be wrong to assume they were not traveling on a motorway, seeing as how the police officer did a U-turn, or are they permissible on Portuguese motorways?  assuming they are not, then they would have been on a "main trunk road", the national speed limit of which is 100kmph. 

[G-Unit]

You have assumed Kate made a mistake regarding the speed the car travelled, you assumed she doesn't understand the difference between KMPH and MPH, and that she didn't calculate the MPH when writing her book for her largely British and American readership.  Care to explain upon what have you based your assumption, seeing as how you don't do assumptions?

The police wanted to find her daughter for her. Time was of the essence. I assume the police can drive at any speed needed in emergencies, just as they can in the UK. I myself have been driven in a police car at 100 mph on ordinary UK roads.

[carlymichelle]

The police wanted to find her daughter for her. Time was of the essence. I assume the police can drive at any speed needed in emergencies, just as they can in the UK. I myself have been driven in a police car at 100 mph on ordinary UK roads.

they are just nit picking  g unit  in a emergancy police  or paramedics etc  dont have a speed limit  here we have to get out of the  way  of emergancy