What is the evidence in the Madeleine McCann disappearance?

[Alfie]

Since the nanny appeared some time after Kate reported an open shutter and window, corroboration cannot occur.

So explain your rules for corroboration then in this instance.  What would make accept that Kate's account as evidence?

[Alfie]

Correct but the alerts are still evidence.

If the uncorroborated alerts ARE evidence in your view, then why not uncorroborated witness statements?

[Robittybob1]

Since the nanny appeared some time after Kate reported an open shutter and window, corroboration cannot occur.

But that is only a guess John.  It is possible, as there was some evidence that there were people looking for Madeleine before the alert raised by Kate, Amy could have got there earlier than we generally think.

[Alice Purjorick]

But that is only a guess John. It is possible, as there was some evidence that there were people looking for Madeleine before the alert raised by Kate, Amy could have got there earlier than we generally think.

Tell us more.
Why would anyone be looking before the alarm was raised?

[Robittybob1]

Tell us more.
Why would anyone be looking before the alarm was raised?

It is simple, if there was someone who was aware that Madeleine had woke and wandered even before Kate had commenced her check, they could have tried to correct this before Kate or Gerry found out.  So they don't go and tell the McCanns because their interference was not sanctioned by them.
It was the Carpenter statement that confirmed this is a distinct possibility.

[Mr Gray]

So you think the dogs lied?

ask the dogs...perhaps get them to take a lie detector

tell me what the dogs said then i will tell you if they lied

[slartibartfast]

ask the dogs...perhaps get them to take a lie detector

tell me what the dogs said then i will tell you if they lied

So you think dogs are capable of lying?

[Mr Gray]

Posts should be on topic...not sniping personal remarks...some of us are trying to have an adult discussion

[Mr Gray]

So you think dogs are capable of lying?

no dogs dont lie...because they cannot speak....do you not understand

[Robittybob1]

I will start if you like.

1. Two GNR scent tracker dogs used hours after Madeleine disappeared followed her fresh scent around block 5 and out to the public road opposite mini reception where it mysteriously ended.

2. Forensic examination of Madeleine's bedroom window, shutter and windowsills revealed no indication of an intruder.

That combination suggests escape plus abduction from the outside.

[Robittybob1]

no dogs dont lie...because they cannot speak....do you not understand

There is communication between the handler and his dog.   That is a form of speaking.

[carlymichelle]

There is communication between the handler and his dog.   That is a form of speaking.

the dogs  have years of training to understand   what to do at work   here in australia and im sure its the  same   in nz and the  uk  police  dogs in australia are  considered   a member of the police force

[Robittybob1]

the dogs  have years of training to understand   what to do at work   here in australia and im sure its the  same   in nz and the  uk  police  dogs in australia are  considered   a member of the police force

Yes they are.

[Benice]

There is communication between the handler and his dog.   That is a form of speaking.

It is also true that the close bond between a dog handler and his dog can result in unconscious cueing.   This is not a crime as the handler has no idea it is happening.     However as test have proved   -   it is a fact.     Therefore dogs can lie IMO.

[pathfinder73]

Eddie alerted to Kate's pants and the kids red t-shirt on his own. No handling was required.