I hate, I mean HATE, to say this, but I was right in my fears he would not be found guilty of first degree murder.
Can´t make my mind up about whether this is "celebrity justice", or that there is reasonable doubt, and this is in fact the right judgement (not that I doubt that it is 1st degree - just that the evidence is simply not there).
Will see what happens tomorrow.
You was right Abs!
I wonder if corruption was involved; Oscar's uncle knows President Zuma who is a crook himself! Oscar has met Zuma's children!
That judge seemed to be reading the judgement for the first time and she is the one who is supposed to have written it! Quite frankly this judge has seemed out of her depth throughout the trial. She speaks in a broken, almost pidgin English and seemed lost at times reading her 'own' statement! Personally I wonder if she got her position because she us female and black?
The evidence of this case has been ignored!
You see it all the time, celebs getting off with light sentences. May very well be some connections and money involved.
This is such a slap in the face of Reeva´s family. I am especially sad for her mother; she has carried herself with such dignity through all this (in stark contrast to the whining, crying, vomiting, snotting and spouting murderer!), but there is no mistaking sadness in her. This is awful. 8(8-))
It IS awful, it's an absolute bloody farce. He's been busy selling off his houses recently, maybe we can guess where the money has gone. ?8)@)-)
That judge is a disgrace! 8()(((@#
That is a totally ridiculous verdict delivered by an idiot of a judge!
I take it you ain't impressed Tim?? I just don't believe the judge had evidence of intent to justify a murder verdict, let's just hope she does right by Reeva tomorrow.
The way proceedings were cut short today reeks of behind the scenes goings on. Did the judge get a message when she was on the verge of a culpable homicide verdict?
You see it all the time, celebs getting off with light sentences. May very well be some connections and money involved.
This is such a slap in the face of Reeva´s family. I am especially sad for her mother; she has carried herself with such dignity through all this (in stark contrast to the whining, crying, vomiting, snotting and spouting murderer!), but there is no mistaking the sadness in her. This is awful. 8(8-))
I take it you ain't impressed Tim?? I just don't believe the judge had evidence of intent to justify a murder verdict, let's just hope she does right by Reeva tomorrow.
The way proceedings were cut short today reeks of behind the scenes goings on. Did the judge get a message when she was on the verge of a culpable homicide verdict?
Just been reading the Sky News website, it says that blood splatter was found above OP's bed, is that true?
Morning, Spammy. It says the evidence of the blood above the bed was introduced early on in the trial and never revisited.
guilty of culpable homicide and a few other things, now waiting for sentencing, I hope she does give him jail time.
Spammy, did you look at the link i put up?
Will OP be sentenced today? Or will that decided another day?
Yes, I don't seem to remember that at all.....????
But then, I was smoking loads of weed while I watched the trial, so it could just be my memory..
Solid or Bush?
I have a feeling he wont receive a custodial sentence.
The Sky News legal expert in Pretoria said he could recieve a fine & no jail time.
Blood Money.
Anything less than 10 years in jail will not be justice for Reeva. Most legal opinion are agreed that the learned judge failed to comprehend the evidence and made a mistake in clearing him of murder. To let him off with a fine or house arrest will be an insullt to Reeva's memory.
She'll go soft on him & give him house arrest &/or a huge fine, I reckon.
Hope I'm wrong.
Was interesting to read that OP had a housekeeper asleep downstairs that fateful night but she never testified!
The judge has just got to hand out a substantial custodial sentence, anything less will be a farce.
Wonder what might have come out in testimony if this had been presented to the court … absolutely astounding the investigators missed it.
Oscar Pistorius made secret 9 minute phone call to ex-girlfriend shortly before he killed Reeva Steenkamp
Oct 02, 2014 07:41
By Andy Lines
The Olympian called Jenna Edkins, who was stored in his mobile under the name “Babyshoes”
Oscar Pistorius had a secret phone conversation with a former girlfriend shortly before he killed Reeva Steenkamp, it was claimed today.
Olympic sprinter Pistorius, 27, allegedly spent nine minutes on the line with his ex Jenna Edkins, 25, stored in his mobile under the name Babyshoes.
Details of the call were never put before the court during Pistorius’ six-month murder trial.
The evidence was uncovered by South African journalists and is featured in their new book.
Mobile data apparently showed that Pistorius was on the phone when he arrived home on the night he ended up shooting dead his girlfriend Reeva.
Further investigations have now allegedly revealed the number was used by Jenna – but was registered in her dad’s name.
It appeared police did not make this connection.
Jenna, who dated Pistorius for several years, was not questioned by authorities probing the shooting and she never gave them a statement.
The prosecution has declined to comment on how this information was missed.
The details are contained in Behind the Door – a book about the case by Barry Bateman and Mandy Wiener.
The phone which Pistorius is said to have used to make the call was removed from the crime scene for two weeks.
When it was handed to police, its history had been wiped.
Barry said: “Oscar’s entire call history and WhatsApp record was deleted, as well as several messages received after the shooting.”
He said police suspected Oscar’s brother Carl of wiping the data after Reeva, 29, was killed.
In response to the book, the Pistorius family said in a statement: “We are not aware of any deletions having been affected by Oscar or effected on his instructions that could be relevant to this trial.”
South African double-amputee Pistorius was convicted last month of culpable homicide for the shooting at his home in Pretoria in 2013, and will be sentenced on October 13. He was cleared of murder.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/oscar-pistorius-made-secret-9-4363332#ixzz3FMRjZg9k
There is going to be a huge outcry if OP doesn't get many years slammed up next week! Imho anything under 10 years will be a travesty of justice.I agree Tim, that it should be a stretch, but I fear it will not.
I agree Tim, that it should be a stretch, but I fear it will not.r