Author Topic: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.  (Read 229528 times)

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Offline John

It is normal practice in a criminal investigation in Portugal to undertake a 'reconstitution' of events in which the original participants and witnesses all take part.  This event is somewhat distinct from the reconstruction which police in the UK use where deemed necessary when investigating a serious crime.  The main difference being that a reconstruction usually involves using police officers or actors.

The officer who lead the original investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Dr Gonçalo Amaral, wanted to carry out a reconstitution but was unable to do so and later stated for the record, "The number of tourists, the number of journalists and the fact that the air space had to be closed (because of helicopters from the media) and the fact that it would make the public suspect the McCanns were being treated as suspects prevented it."

An attempt to carry out a reconstitution at a later date was met by refusals by many of the witnesses who had by then returned to the UK rendering it impossible.  It was subsequently abandoned.

To the best of our knowledge, no official reconstitution or reconstruction has ever taken place in the seven years since Madeleine disappeared.


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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Albertini

All this thread has gone to show is how valid Rebelo's request (refused by the McCann's via their spokesman and the rest of their group) for a reconstruction was.

It could once and for all resolved these issues.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 05:50:23 AM by John »

Offline jassi

All this thread has gone to show is how valid Rebelo's request (refused by the McCann's via their spokesman and the rest of their group) for a reconstruction was.

It could once and for all resolved these issues.

Bearing in mind the unwillingness of some of the group to participate in a reconstruction, I have never understood why, with all the technology that police have available, the data from all the various statements hasn't been put into a computer and  a  virtual simulation of the activities of that night created. The discrepancies would be glaringly obvious and could then be further probed.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline sadie

All this thread has gone to show is how valid Rebelo's request (refused by the McCann's via their spokesman and the rest of their group) for a reconstruction was.

It could once and for all resolved these issues.
The Mccanns pressed the PJ for a reconstruction at the time of the abduction.

Their request was refused.  I wonder why?  >@@(*&)




BTW, Albertini, you are innacurate.  The Mccanns have NEVER refused to go back.  PLease get your facts straight.

Offline Benice

Bearing in mind the unwillingness of some of the group to participate in a reconstruction, I have never understood why, with all the technology that police have available, the data from all the various statements hasn't been put into a computer and  a  virtual simulation of the activities of that night created. The discrepancies would be glaringly obvious and could then be further probed.

I believe this has already been done Jassi.   

Quote from Andy Redwood

...we have conducted a forensic analysis  of the timelines and there is clearly oppportunity there for Madeleine McCann to have been removed from that apartment alive - ''
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_RjWWCKEA     DCI Andy Redwood on 'Daybreak'
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Bearing in mind the unwillingness of some of the group to participate in a reconstruction, I have never understood why, with all the technology that police have available, the data from all the various statements hasn't been put into a computer and  a  virtual simulation of the activities of that night created. The discrepancies would be glaringly obvious and could then be further probed.

It seems sy have the technology do do this so they probably have......hence the mccanns are not suspects

Offline jassi

It seems sy have the technology do do this so they probably have......hence the mccanns are not suspects

Possibly - something else we can't be certain about.

Having said that, I'm sure that if the Tapas group had been questioned further, following such a simulation and had been cleared, I'm sure Mitchel would have been trumpeting the news from the rooftops
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Online Eleanor

It seems sy have the technology do do this so they probably have......hence the mccanns are not suspects

It's called "Holmes"  and of course Scotland Yard have done it.  Sheesh.

Offline slartibartfast

It's called "Holmes"  and of course Scotland Yard have done it.  Sheesh.

It ain't exactly rocket science. Trouble is GIGO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

It's called "Holmes"  and of course Scotland Yard have done it.  Sheesh.

I just love people who are so sure of things they cannot possibly know  8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Estuarine

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2014, 10:56:58 AM »
Possibly - something else we can't be certain about.

Having said that, I'm sure that if the Tapas group had been questioned further, following such a simulation and had been cleared, I'm sure Mitchel would have been trumpeting the news from the rooftops

As he is aspiring to be the Honourable Member for Brighton Pavilion he will need to play a canny game. Close enough to take credit if it pans out but far enough away to look clean should it not.

Offline Benice

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2014, 11:02:07 AM »
I just love people who are so sure of things they cannot possibly know  8(0(*

How else could a' forensic analysis' be undertaken if not with a specialised computer programme?   This type of equipment has been around for ages  - I remember seeing a 'virtual' reconstruction of the Kennedy assassination years ago.

Any idea  that New Scotland Yard may not have this type of facility is to be completely unrealistic IMO
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Online Eleanor

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2014, 11:07:24 AM »
How else could a' forensic analysis' be undertaken if not with a specialised computer programme?   This type of equipment has been around for ages  - I remember seeing a 'virtual' reconstruction of the Kennedy assassination years ago.

Any idea  that New Scotland Yard may not have this type of facility is to be completely unrealistic IMO

If Scotland Yard hasn't got it then who has?

Offline sadie

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2014, 11:42:17 AM »
Members are asked to please refrain from posting their own previous posts as quotes.  This is spamming.
John
You must have noticed how posters from your side of the fence always drown out all my more profound posts by flooding the thread with silly little irrelevances.

They delibetaely hide them with trivia.,

What is that drowning out  of my posts called ?





As long as this continues, I have no option but to repost my posts.  I wouldn't chose to.

It is totally unfair.  Of course I have to repost .. or NOT have a voice

Cariad

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2014, 12:37:45 PM »
John
You must have noticed how posters from your side of the fence always drown out all my more profound posts by flooding the thread with silly little irrelevances.

They delibetaely hide them with trivia.,

What is that drowning out  of my posts called ?





As long as this continues, I have no option but to repost my posts.  I wouldn't chose to.

It is totally unfair.  Of course I have to repost .. or NOT have a voice

Maybe you missed my post clearing up your latest conspiracy. It's on the previous page, should you wish to look.