Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....

[faithlilly]

Nah.. 

Then I’ll rejoice. People agreeing that racism is bad can only be a good thing.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I’m not sure the point you are making ? Black people commit crimes against black people, Chinese people commit crimes against Chinese people....and ? Should we just turn a blind eye to the real, pernicious spread of racism in this country because their own race do worse to each other ?

I would hate for your husband or any of his relations after suffering so horrifically in their homeland to be faced with the same cruelty and violence here simply because of their race, religion or nationality.

The point I am making is very clear.  I am challenging what is racism exactly?  is it white people not liking some black people or  black people not liking Muslims? can you be specific about racism- an example perhaps?

 I love Michael Jackson's and black soul music I dislike Diane Abbot , does this make me a racist or if I said I hate all black/chinese people does that make me a racist?

any example will do...

[Venturi Swirl]

The point I am making is very clear.  I am challenging what is racism exactly?  is it white people not liking some black people or  black people not liking Muslims? can you be specific about racism- an example perhaps?

 I love Michael Jackson's and black soul music I dislike Diane Abbot , does this make me a racist or if I said I hate all black/chinese people does that make me a racist?

any example will do...

Yes, if you said you hated all black or chinese people that makes you a racist, definitely.

[faithlilly]

The point I am making is very clear.  I am challenging what is racism exactly?  is it white people not liking some black people or  black people not liking Muslims? can you be specific about racism- an example perhaps?

 I love Michael Jackson's and black soul music I dislike Diane Abbot , does this make me a racist or if I said I hate all black/chinese people does that make me a racist?

any example will do...

Racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another resulting in discrimination or prejudice....and it exists in all races.

Example ? Diane Abbot is rubbish at her job because she can’t count...that wouldn’t be racist but if you said Diane Abbot is rubbish at her job because all black people are stupid...that would be...and if you said ‘ I hate all black/Chinese people ‘ I’m not sure how it could be perceived to be anything else but racist.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Yes, if you said you hated all black or chinese people that makes you a racist, definitely.

Oh Good then I am not a racist! whooha!  but, what if I say  I don't like Diane Abbot does that make me racist (probably in some sections of the community I guess).  what sayeth you?

[Venturi Swirl]

Oh Good then I am not a racist! whooha!  but, what if I say  I don't like Diane Abbot does that make me racist (probably in some sections of the community I guess).  what sayeth you?

Depends on your reasons for not liking her I guess. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

I do not like her due to her racism! lol

I also find her pseudo snobbery a bit much. She joined a party which removed assisted places at private schools for bright children and sent her own son to a private school as she didn't want him going to a comprehensive school with other  children predominately of colour. So effectively the tax payers paid for her son.  I don't like a lot of white and Asian MP's as well for similar reasons. I just mentioned her as an example.

I seem to walk on a different road to many - I abhor any kind of discrimination positive or negative- it is diversive, and not diversity. It has nothing to do with equality at all - which some people try and sell.


I refuse to see colour/creed/race/disability in people I meet. I only see fellow humans -some I like and some I don't- some people do not like that kind of thinking...

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes, if you said you hated all black or chinese people that makes you a racist, definitely.

What if you hated all Black Chinese people?

[faithlilly]

I do not like her due to her racism! lol

I also find her pseudo snobbery a bit much. She joined a party which removed assisted places at private schools for bright children and sent her own son to a private school as she didn't want him going to a comprehensive school with other  children predominately of colour. So effectively the tax payers paid for her son.  I don't like a lot of white and Asian MP's as well for similar reasons. I just mentioned her as an example.

I seem to walk on a different road to many - I abhor any kind of discrimination positive or negative- it is diversive, and not diversity. It has nothing to do with equality at all - which some people try and sell.


I refuse to see colour/creed/race/disability in people I meet. I only see fellow humans -some I like and some I don't- some people do not like that kind of thinking...

What do you mean by ‘positive discrimination’ ?

[Venturi Swirl]

I do not like her due to her racism! lol

I also find her pseudo snobbery a bit much. She joined a party which removed assisted places at private schools for bright children and sent her own son to a private school as she didn't want him going to a comprehensive school with other  children predominately of colour. So effectively the tax payers paid for her son.  I don't like a lot of white and Asian MP's as well for similar reasons. I just mentioned her as an example.

I seem to walk on a different road to many - I abhor any kind of discrimination positive or negative- it is diversive, and not diversity. It has nothing to do with equality at all - which some people try and sell.


I refuse to see colour/creed/race/disability in people I meet. I only see fellow humans -some I like and some I don't- some people do not like that kind of thinking...

she is a ghastly hypocrite as so many of these socialist types are.

[Miss Taken Identity]

What do you mean by ‘positive discrimination’ ?

Giving people jobs purely based on race/gender etc. mostly in the public sector to meet 'targets'.

People are saying LABOUR PARTY should have a female leader. Should one be GIVEN the job just because she is a woman?  I don't think so.

when two Asian men applied for a job- they both had similar skills and attributes- one got the job based on his 'personality and skills. no problem with that. That was won fair and square. but if a white/black man went up against the Asian guy it could quite easily be the Asian or Black man if quotas for either have to be met.  That is discrimination.

[faithlilly]

Giving people jobs purely based on race/gender etc. mostly in the public sector to meet 'targets'.

People are saying LABOUR PARTY should have a female leader. Should one be GIVEN the job just because she is a woman?  I don't think so.

when two Asian men applied for a job- they both had similar skills and attributes- one got the job based on his 'personality and skills. no problem with that. That was won fair and square. but if a white/black man went up against the Asian guy it could quite easily be the Asian or Black man if quotas for either have to be met.  That is discrimination.

That is illegal.


Positive discrimination is generally unlawful in the UK. For example, an employer recruiting a person because he or she has a relevant protected characteristic rather than because he or she is the best candidate would be committing discrimination under the Equality Act 2010. It is also unlawful to set quotas to recruit or promote a specific number or proportion of people with a particular protected characteristic.
There are limited circumstances in which it is lawful to require a job applicant or worker to have a particular protected characteristic, for example where an occupational requirement applies. Equality and Human Rights Commission guidance gives the example of a women’s refuge requiring all members of staff to be women.
Positive discrimination, should be distinguished from positive action, which is lawful.

[Miss Taken Identity]

That is illegal.


Positive discrimination is generally unlawful in the UK. For example, an employer recruiting a person because he or she has a relevant protected characteristic rather than because he or she is the best candidate would be committing discrimination under the Equality Act 2010. It is also unlawful to set quotas to recruit or promote a specific number or proportion of people with a particular protected characteristic.
There are limited circumstances in which it is lawful to require a job applicant or worker to have a particular protected characteristic, for example where an occupational requirement applies. Equality and Human Rights Commission guidance gives the example of a women’s refuge requiring all members of staff to be women.
Positive discrimination, should be distinguished from positive action, which is lawful.

No Faith. That is where you are wrong. it is practiced especially within the police and local government/not to mention TV.  Not openly done of-course.  We now have the cultural appropriate sham- another form of discrimination.

I agree with the selection based on gender issues. men and women should have male /female support workers for certain  health/social issues. That is different completely.

[faithlilly]

No Faith. That is where you are wrong. it is practiced especially within the police and local government/not to mention TV.  Not openly done of-course.  We now have the cultural appropriate sham- another form of discrimination.

I agree with the selection based on gender issues. men and women should have male /female support workers for certain  health/social issues. That is different completely.

But it is still illegal.

[faithlilly]

If both Jewish and Muslim representatives have condemned this MPs contact with the far right – why has he not been censured?
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Wednesday
Feb 2020

Both the Muslim Council of Britain and the Board of Deputies of British Jews have condemned Daniel Kawczynski for attending a conference with far-right European leaders.

But the Conservative government has said nothing.

What does that say about the politics of your cuddly, lovable, bumbling ol’ Boris Johnson?


 
Doesn’t it suggest that his own leanings are a little further to the right than we have been led to believe?

(That’s for readers who aren’t on benefits, of course. They all know the score.)

A Tory MP has defended his decision to speak at a conference in Rome alongside “some of Europe’s most notorious far-right politicians”.
Daniel Kawczynski has been condemned by the Board of Deputies of British Jews for attending the National Conservatism conference in Rome alongside Hungary’s far-right prime minister Viktor Orban.
Also speaking at the conference was Ryszard Legutko, the Polish Law and Justice MEP who has described homophobia as a “totally fictitious problem”
Misdaad Versie, a spokesperson for the Muslim Council of Britain also criticised Mr Kawczynski – as well as the Tory Chief Whip, whom the MP claims he informed about the conference ahead of time.