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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2016, 12:51:42 PM »
Is that the extent of the reasoned explanation in his favour?
How do you know he wouldn't be?

Compare his stance on Russia with hers.
I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.

Alfie

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2016, 01:07:28 PM »
Where?

I want the Iranians to know that if I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”


"During which time they might."...........Not, "If Iran were to attack Israel"

Where did she say that?

Talk about twisting words & lying propaganda.

Yours is the perfect example.
OK.  Put up the source material.  Verbatim quotes from an impartial source or a link to the video of the speech, not propaganda bollocks spouted by the organsiation you quote from https://www.quora.com/Journalistic-Ethics-and-Norms-How-legitimate-is-The-Centre-for-Global-Research
You seriously believe Clinton stood up last year and announced that when she was president she was going to bomb Iran into oblivion for no particular reason at all?!  You're funny.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2016, 01:22:38 PM »
OK.  Put up the source material.  Verbatim quotes from an impartial source or a link to the video of the speech, not propaganda bollocks spouted by the organsiation you quote from https://www.quora.com/Journalistic-Ethics-and-Norms-How-legitimate-is-The-Centre-for-Global-Research
You seriously believe Clinton stood up last year and announced that when she was president she was going to bomb Iran into oblivion for no particular reason at all?!  You're funny.

Oil.

And here it is,  & yes, it was in response to 'if Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel'


Iran poses as much nuclear threat to Israel as Iraq had WMD's.

They are just part of the axis of evil, along with Libya, & Syria.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 04:57:08 PM by John »
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stephen25000

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2016, 01:51:02 PM »
....and Israel's undeclared nuclear arsenal  ....

Anything to say about that ?

How about deployment of  White Phosphorus in the Gaza conflict ?

stephen25000

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2016, 01:51:52 PM »
Oil.

And here it is,  & yes, it was in response to 'if Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel'


Iran poses as much nuclear threat to Israel as Iraq had WMD's.

They are just part of the axis of evil, along with Libya, & Syria.

So where is Iran's nuclear arsenal ?

« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 04:57:58 PM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2016, 01:57:51 PM »
Compare his stance on Russia with hers.

There have been allegations that Trump has Russian financial backing.

Let's not forget either,  that Putin and Trump have regard for each other.

Alfie

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2016, 01:59:13 PM »
Oil.

And here it is,  & yes, it was in response to 'if Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel'


Iran poses as much nuclear threat to Israel as Iraq had WMD's.

They are just part of the axis of evil, along with Libya, & Syria.
Thanks for admitting that what you posted earlier was misleading propaganda.  Iran actually does want the complete annihilation of Israel, and any American attack on Iran would be to in order to protect Israel, nothing to do with oil.  Does America now control oil production in Iraq or Libya?
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 04:58:17 PM by John »

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2016, 02:09:01 PM »
Thanks for admitting that what you posted earlier was misleading propaganda.  Iran actually does want the complete annihilation of Israel, and any American attack on Iran would be to in order to protect Israel, nothing to do with oil.  Does America now control oil production in Iraq or Libya?

........More likely from an imminent attack,  like in 45 minutes.

.....& it's still sold in USD.....


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Alfie

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2016, 02:16:27 PM »
........More likely from an imminent attack,  like in 45 minutes.

.....& it's still sold in USD.....
Not quite sure what you mean, but Iran has boasted (this year) that it could destroy Israel in 8 minutes from the order being given by the supreme leader. 
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 04:59:59 PM by John »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2016, 02:42:01 PM »
Thanks, I haven't read that yet.

A review by The Economist, which I've just found but haven't read yet:
http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21694981-mistakes-made-islamic-state

Down load the book onto your Kindle it is worth it.
I never trust reviews.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2016, 03:12:28 PM »
Thanks for admitting that what you posted earlier was misleading propaganda.  Iran actually does want the complete annihilation of Israel, and any American attack on Iran would be to in order to protect Israel, nothing to do with oil.  Does America now control oil production in Iraq or Libya?

Or to have a pop at Iran cos they still remember 1979 ?.
Not to forget of course The US, Germany, France, UK and sundry others "supported" , aka "gave arms to", Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war of early 1980s. Refer Forgemasters and Matrix Churchill.
Aaaaand then in 1985 air strikes against Libya because of a bomb in a disco attended by US squaddies in Germany.Three dead, one American serviceman, and 230 injured. The US flew 37 sorties in retaliation dropping christ knows how many iron bombs on the desert cum Libyan Army Installations.
But was it more to do with Gaddafi having his beadies on uranium in Chad than anything else?
Not much change in 30 years then.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

stephen25000

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2016, 04:46:25 PM »
Or to have a pop at Iran cos they still remember 1979 ?.
Not to forget of course The US, Germany, France, UK and sundry others "supported" , aka "gave arms to", Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war of early 1980s. Refer Forgemasters and Matrix Churchill.
Aaaaand then in 1985 air strikes against Libya because of a bomb in a disco attended by US squaddies in Germany.Three dead, one American serviceman, and 230 injured. The US flew 37 sorties in retaliation dropping christ knows how many iron bombs on the desert cum Libyan Army Installations.
But was it more to do with Gaddafi having his beadies on uranium in Chad than anything else?
Not much change in 30 years then.

The Iranian dislike of the West , a especially the UK predates 79.  The Americans also shot down an Iranian passenger airline with major loss of civilian lives.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2016, 05:11:33 PM »
The Iranian dislike of the West , a especially the UK predates 79.  The Americans also shot down an Iranian passenger airline with major loss of civilian lives.

We supported the Peacock Throne I guess. One of Maggie's earliest gaffes as leader of the opposition revolved around The Shah.
The US however had their Embassy seized and the rescue attempt was a dismal failure so the Iranians became the "super bad guys". Hence Saddam Hussein became an "Honorary Good Guy" when he invaded Iran in 1980. Hence when the super baddies were getting the better of the honorary goodies we had to give help; embargoes? what are they.

"US Foreign Policy in the Middle East: From Crises to Change by Dr Yakub Halabi" is also worth a read.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfie

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Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2016, 05:57:41 PM »
Trump has just asked Russia for help in exposing Hillary clinton's hacked e-mails.   This man is clearly not the full shilling.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Who would trust Bojo or Trump
« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2016, 09:22:11 PM »
I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.