Amaral and the dogs

[pathfinder73]

Some long forgotten Tiler could well have cut himself.  And so it seems did the person who raised the tiles.

Eddie was fine, he just wasn't a proper Cadaver Dog, so no one, not even Martin Grime knew what he was alerting to.

Forensics found nothing in the Prout case but the police knew what Eddie alerted to. They just had to prove it.

[Anna]

We appear to be slipping off topic

Please adhere to the Topic of this thread. Thank you.

Further Off Topic posts will be deleted.

[Mr Gray]

Merely because the davel doesn't say something could happen as a result of a fall, doesn't make it true.

you are getting confused...I have said that there are no reports of instant death from a fall involving a child in  adomestic situation...that seems to be a fact as no one has been able to produce  a report

[Anna]

you didn't say before...

simply take a rag to the mortuary and wipe it over the face of a cadaver....wipe the same rag over areas in the apartment..car and clothes...

Please take this discussion up on an appropriate thread topic
Author Topic: Could the cadaver scent have been planted? (Read 13601 times)
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2046.msg66419#msg66419

[stephen25000]

you are getting confused...I have said that there are no reports of instant death from a fall involving a child in  adomestic situation...that seems to be a fact as no one has been able to produce  a report

Are all accidents reported davel ?

Can you say with 100% certainty it couldn't ?

Basically, as I said earlier, it comes down to two options, either the dogs alerted to a body or they didn't.

[Mr Gray]

Are all accidents reported davel ?

Can you say with 100% certainty it couldn't ?

I would say all fatal accidents are reported in the UK ......and most civilised countries. The mechanism of death in these cases would lead me to say 100% it could not happen.

[mercury]

Are all accidents reported davel ?

Can you say with 100% certainty it couldn't ?

Basically, as I said earlier, it comes down to two options, either the dogs alerted to a body or they didn't.

could have been toenails or sweat though

[Mr Gray]

Are all accidents reported davel ?

Can you say with 100% certainty it couldn't ?

Basically, as I said earlier, it comes down to two options, either the dogs alerted to a body or they didn't.

that's on topic...and true..the dogs may have alerted to a body..or they may not...amaral was wrong to conclude they did

[mercury]

that's on topic...and true..the dogs may have alerted to a body..or they may not...amaral was wrong to conclude they did

wrong is better than satan, an improvement I suppose

[ferryman]

Forensics found nothing in the Prout case but the police knew what Eddie alerted to. They just had to prove it.

No doubt based on the dog's alert, they formulated a theory that Prout strangled his wife in the main house of the Prouts.

He strangled her in an outhouse, a few hundred yards away ....

And the dog alert formed no part of the prosecution's case.

[stephen25000]

that's on topic...and true..the dogs may have alerted to a body..or they may not...amaral was wrong to conclude they did

He made the conclusion as did others, based on the information made available.

The forensic results did not show conclusive evidence either way, but then it wasn't the only information which pointed to a certain conclusion.

[pegasus]

A good demonstration of a dog in action in the second part of this video.
http://youtu.be/ZseVVfswzPA

[Carana]

you didn't say before...

simply take a rag to the mortuary and wipe it over the face of a cadaver....wipe the same rag over areas in the apartment..car and clothes...

In theory, that would seem possible. Even burying a bit of cloth in the nearby cemetary overnight might have done the trick.

Until recently, I found that idea too far-fetched to be credible. Now, I'm not so sure.

I find it to be an amazing ooincidence that Eddie alerted to the precise areas that Amaral found suspicious in photos (the sofa that everyone and his brother would have checked behind before that photo was taken) and the dark travel case (aka "blue tennis bag") that wasn't there in the the subsequent photos taken the next day. The forensic squad didn't notice a travel case and check it? Seriously?

[mercury]

fantastic video! the dog knew the scent was in the environs, just had a little trouble locating it
a reminder to critics of Eddie being used for "too long" in 5A and not kong enough elsewhere!
poor little kid though, these stories never cease to shock!

[mercury]

In theory, that would seem possible. Even burying a bit of cloth in the nearby cemetary overnight might have done the trick.

Until recently, I found that idea too far-fetched to be credible. Now, I'm not so sure.

I find it to be an amazing ooincidence that Eddie alerted to the precise areas that Amaral found suspicious in photos (the sofa that everyone and his brother would have checked behind before that photo was taken) and the dark travel case (aka "blue tennis bag") that wasn't there in the the subsequent photos taken the next day. The forensic squad didn't notice a travel case and check it? Seriously?

ah but what came first? Amaral's suspicions or the dog alerts? why on earth would Amaral suspect a fatal fall off the sofa werent it for the dogs
The concept of planted cadaver scent is a bit silly tbh