Amaral and the dogs

[Alice Purjorick]

Double Dutch to me, Stephen.
All I've asked is for you to explain, in layman's terms, is how diffusion causes scent to be dispersed through the door seal from inside the car when the car is motionless. closed & in an underground car park. Is it really beyond you to help us thickos understand how Eddie could have scented something 10m away but passed the source on several occasions?

This has been done before less or more.

[Mr Gray]

Double Dutch to me, Stephen.
All I've asked is for you to explain, in layman's terms, is how diffusion causes scent to be dispersed through the door seal from inside the car when the car is motionless. closed & in an underground car park. Is it really beyond you to help us thickos understand how Eddie could have scented something 10m away but passed the source on several occasions?

stephen is saying gas molecules move about....and they move about a bit less on a windless day

[stephen25000]

Double Dutch to me, Stephen.
All I've asked is for you to explain, in layman's terms, is how diffusion causes scent to be dispersed through the door seal from inside the car when the car is motionless. closed & in an underground car park. Is it really beyond you to help us thickos understand how Eddie could have scented something 10m away but passed the source on several occasions?

Perhaps you should watch dogs in the field.

This is what they do.

And you will be well aware of dogs sense of smell if far more effective than our own and the consequences of that.

[Mr Gray]

Perhaps you should watch dogs in the field.

This is what they do.

absolute rubbish ....can you supply evidence to back this up...I've seen dogs at airports going only once along a queue...you are talking BS

[ferryman]

Here is what Grime, in PdL, was really all about.

This business of testing stuff in one place, then testing it a second time in another (clothes, tested in the villa, transported to the gym and tested a second time; the ignition key of the Scenic, tested in the scenic, transferred to a sand-box and tested a second time somewhere well away from the scenic) precisely replicates Grime's modus operandi on a different occasion, with a different dog and in another continent (Detroit, America and the Bianca Jones case).

In the Bianca Jones case, also, you had the line-up of cars, much longer than in PdL.

I am out-of-kilter with many on this (including many whose opinions I respect) but I don't believe I'm wrong.

I think the essential difference between Morse (whom Grime operated with in Detroit) and most other cadaver dogs is that Morse was desensitised to the scent of blood.

The weak link in the Eddie-and-Keela combination was that both dogs reacted to the scent of blood.

What is the point of two dogs that do the same thing?

[ferryman]

Perhaps you should watch dogs in the field.

This is what they do.

Dogs in the field chase rabbits.

[Alfred R Jones]

Anybody know why the door / windows of the cars weren't left open to make things easier for Eddie, or would that not have made any difference to Super Ed?

[Mr Gray]

Here is what Grime, in PdL, was really all about.

This business of testing stuff in one place, then testing it a second time in another (clothes, tested in the villa, transported to the gym and tested a second time; the ignition key of the Scenic, tested in the scenic, transferred to a sand-box and tested a second time somewhere well away from the scenic) precisely replicates Grime's modus operandi on a different occasion, with a different dog and in another continent (Detroit, America and the Bianca Jones case).

In the Bianca Jones case, also, you had the line-up of cars, much longer than in PdL.

I am out-of-kilter with many on this (including many whose opinions I respect) but I don't believe I'm wrong.

I think the essential difference between Morse (whom Grime operated with in Detroit) and most other cadaver dogs is that Morse was desensitised to the scent of blood.

The weak link in the Eddie-and-Keela combination was that both dogs reacted to the scent of blood.

What is the point of two dogs that do the same thing?

absolutely spot on

[stephen25000]

absolute rubbish ....can you supply evidence to back this up...I've seen dogs at airports going only once along a queue...you are talking BS

I don't need to BS dave, you are the expert on that.

[stephen25000]

Dogs in the field chase rabbits.

In the field in this context honest broker means when they are doing their job.

[Mr Gray]

I don't need to BS dave, you are the expert on that.

have you not seen dogs at airports being led once along a queue...never brought up and down several times..
That's my evidence to back my claim...where's yours

[Brietta]

Here is what Grime, in PdL, was really all about.

This business of testing stuff in one place, then testing it a second time in another (clothes, tested in the villa, transported to the gym and tested a second time; the ignition key of the Scenic, tested in the scenic, transferred to a sand-box and tested a second time somewhere well away from the scenic) precisely replicates Grime's modus operandi on a different occasion, with a different dog and in another continent (Detroit, America and the Bianca Jones case).

In the Bianca Jones case, also, you had the line-up of cars, much longer than in PdL.

I am out-of-kilter with many on this (including many whose opinions I respect) but I don't believe I'm wrong.

I think the essential difference between Morse (whom Grime operated with in Detroit) and most other cadaver dogs is that Morse was desensitised to the scent of blood.

The weak link in the Eddie-and-Keela combination was that both dogs reacted to the scent of blood.

What is the point of two dogs that do the same thing?

As far as I understand it, Ferryman, Morse was fully accredited having been subject to regular independent testing ... also he was trained only on human scent.

The results he achieved under test conditions are testament to Martin Grime's skill as a trainer

[Brietta]

absolutely spot on

I find the combination perplexing too ... maybe we are missing something?

[ferryman]

As far as I understand it, Ferryman, Morse was fully accredited having been subject to regular independent testing ... also he was trained only on human scent.

The results he achieved in under test conditions are testament to Martin Grime's skill as a trainer

Yep.

I don't (necessarily) dissent from that ...

[stephen25000]

have you not seen dogs at airports being led once along a queue...never brought up and down several times..
That's my evidence to back my claim...where's yours

That is not evidence dave.

Can you cite examples  please.