Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.

[Robittybob1]

hAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT gERRY MAY HAVE GONE TO THE FRONT DOOR WHEN/if he considered himself being observed?

[Lace]

hAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT gERRY MAY HAVE GONE TO THE FRONT DOOR WHEN/if he considered himself being observed?

If there was a watcher,  then this person could easily let the man in 5a know that Gerry was on his way,  and so the person in 5a could slip out through the front door until Gerry had gone.

[sadie]

If there was a watcher,  then this person could easily let the man in 5a know that Gerry was on his way,  and so the person in 5a could slip out through the front door until Gerry had gone.

Or there is the slightest possibility that he could have hidden somewhere within the flat, but that would be risky IMO

[Robittybob1]

If there was a watcher,  then this person could easily let the man in 5a know that Gerry was on his way,  and so the person in 5a could slip out through the front door until Gerry had gone.

But he went to the front door!

[sadie]

But he went to the front door!

Do we KNOW that Gerry went to the front door?  I dont recall seeing it in his statements

[G-Unit]

If there was a watcher,  then this person could easily let the man in 5a know that Gerry was on his way,  and so the person in 5a could slip out through the front door until Gerry had gone.

So this person presumably went into 5A pretty much immediately after Matthew's listening check. According to Sadie it would take one to two minutes to carry out an abduction, so why was he still in there when Gerry arrived? Why had he not raised the shutters by then?  Also according to Sadie the watcher scarpered to the getaway car immediately after giving the signal to go in, so he wouldn't have seen Gerry coming. Finally, why would they go in in daylight?

[Robittybob1]

Do we KNOW that Gerry went to the front door?  I dont recall seeing it in his statements

In his 04 May statement.

[G-Unit]

Do we KNOW that Gerry went to the front door?  I dont recall seeing it in his statements

Really? He said he did in his first statement. There is more evidence that Gerry used the front door than there is that anyone was watching the apartment in my opinion.

[Lace]

In his 04 May statement.

He corrected himself later and said he went in through the patio doors,   Jes saw him by the steps of the apartment after he had checked on Madeleine.

[Lace]

So this person presumably went into 5A pretty much immediately after Matthew's listening check. According to Sadie it would take one to two minutes to carry out an abduction, so why was he still in there when Gerry arrived? Why had he not raised the shutters by then?  Also according to Sadie the watcher scarpered to the getaway car immediately after giving the signal to go in, so he wouldn't have seen Gerry coming. Finally, why would they go in in daylight?

I think the man entered after Gerry's check.

[pathfinder73]

Do we KNOW that Gerry went to the front door?  I dont recall seeing it in his statements

Is that a joke?

[G-Unit]

I think the man entered after Gerry's check.

Then who moved the door?

[Lace]

Then who moved the door?

Ah yes,  I see what you mean,  then maybe he did enter before Gerry's check, but was tipped off that Gerry was on his way,  nipped back out through the front door and waited until Gerry had left.

[Alice Purjorick]

If there was a watcher, then this person could easily let the man in 5a know that Gerry was on his way,  and so the person in 5a could slip out through the front door until Gerry had gone.

How? his only means of communication was by flashing a fag lighter?

[pathfinder73]

Ah yes,  I see what you mean,  then maybe he did enter before Gerry's check, but was tipped off that Gerry was on his way,  nipped back out through the front door and waited until Gerry had left.

Or maybe not - Matt was outside the bedroom window only minutes before Gerry left to check.