Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.

[stephen25000]

Was that a typo Stephen?  Did you really write "Police, by the way, do not determine a crime, and while some say abduction, others have said otherwise."?

Police may believe they know what crime has occurred, it does not mean they always get it right.

[Mr Gray]

Police may believe they know what crime has occurred, it does not mean they always get it right.

Rowley said they solved 90 % of their crimes...that sounds quite good to me...I think SY are more reliable than a relative handful of anonymous  armchair detectives on the net

[stephen25000]

Rowley said they solved 90 % of their crimes...that sounds quite good to me...I think SY are more reliable than a relative handful of anonymous  armchair detectives on the net

Perhaps we can have the proof of that and the stats to back it up.

They certainly haven't been successful in this case.

How many years have been spent on this, and how much money ?

Just asking.

Remembering of course, that police funding has been reduced, along with police numbers, so that some crimes are even being investigated.


'Police 'writing off crimes' because they are so overstretched, damning report reveals'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-force-hmic-watchdog-overstretched-public-risk-national-crisis-government-cuts-a7606836.html

[Alice Purjorick]

Was that a typo Stephen?  Did you really write "Police, by the way, do not determine a crime, and while some say abduction, others have said otherwise."?

In England and Wales the CPS decide what charges will be brought based on the evidence turned up by the police. The CPS will go for a charge on which they can make a conviction stick, the charge may not be what "The Man On The Clapham Omnibus" [or medium man if you prefer] thinks it should be.
In Scotland it is driven by The Procurator Fiscal.

[Mr Gray]

Perhaps we can have the proof of that and the stats to back it up.

They certainly haven't been successful in this case.

How many years have been spent on this, and how much money ?

Just asking.

Remembering of course, that police funding has been reduced, along with police numbers, so that some crimes are even being investigated.


'Police 'writing off crimes' because they are so overstretched, damning report reveals'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-force-hmic-watchdog-overstretched-public-risk-national-crisis-government-cuts-a7606836.html

If you read my post again you will see I am quoting Rowley.........that is what he said...if you dont beleive he is telling the truth thats up to you

[Alice Purjorick]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Service#Detection_rates


"Our detection rate for murder is exceptional - solving around 95 of every 100 murders - a rate other capital cities look at with envy".

http://news.met.police.uk/news/detecting-and-preventing-murder-147405

[stephen25000]

If you read my post again you will see I am quoting Rowley.........that is what he said...if you dont beleive he is telling the truth thats up to you

So are you saying that police solve 90% of all crimes, or are you focused on one area, and if so so, what ?

[stephen25000]

e.g.

' Shocking figures show police solved just 29% of all crime in England and Wales last year

London's force boasted the worst record with a meagre 24% of crimes being solved in the capital during 2013/14 '

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-figures-show-police-solved-4729609

[Mr Gray]

So are you saying that police solve 90% of all crimes, or are you focused on one area, and if so so, what ?

#again...im not saying anything....Rowley is ...Im quoting him

[G-Unit]

Rowley said they solved 90 % of their crimes...that sounds quite good to me...I think SY are more reliable than a relative handful of anonymous  armchair detectives on the net

There were 704,000 crimes committed in the capital last year but the Metropolitan Police managed to bring just 169,000 of these – or 24% – to a successful conclusion. (2013/4)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-figures-show-police-solved-4729609

Their murder rate is good, but OG isn't investigating a murder, is it?

Our detection rate for murder is exceptional - solving around 95 of every 100 murders - a rate other capital cities look at with envy.
http://news.met.police.uk/news/detecting-and-preventing-murder-147405

[Mr Gray]

There were 704,000 crimes committed in the capital last year but the Metropolitan Police managed to bring just 169,000 of these – or 24% – to a successful conclusion. (2013/4)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-figures-show-police-solved-4729609

Their murder rate is good, but OG isn't investigating a murder, is it?

Our detection rate for murder is exceptional - solving around 95 of every 100 murders - a rate other capital cities look at with envy.
http://news.met.police.uk/news/detecting-and-preventing-murder-147405

Rowley is quoting figures for serious crimes...this is a serious crime

[Mr Gray]

e.g.

' Shocking figures show police solved just 29% of all crime in England and Wales last year

London's force boasted the worst record with a meagre 24% of crimes being solved in the capital during 2013/14 '

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-figures-show-police-solved-4729609

on what justification are those figures shocking...what would you expect and on what data do you rely on to support your opinion......without that your claim of shocking is baseless

[stephen25000]

Rowley is quoting figures for serious crimes...this is a serious crime

It has not been determined in law if a crime has occurred.

That is in the jurisdiction of the court system, not Rowley.

[G-Unit]

Rowley is quoting figures for serious crimes...this is a serious crime

You seem to be the only poster who hasn't provided a cite. 

[Mr Gray]

It has not been determined in law if a crime has occurred.

That is in the jurisdiction of the court system, not Rowley.

Im quoting Rowley...I have more faith in what he says than anonymous armchair detectives...