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Offline Faithlilly

Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« on: February 03, 2018, 11:53:10 AM »
Louth man Martin Smith has confirmed he remains 60-80% sure he saw Gerry McCann carrying a child on the night Madeleine disappeared. Police are keen to talk to the man he saw, who has yet to come forward and identify himself. My report is in @VillageMagIRE today #McCann

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/959745836145135616

It would appear that Miss O'Doherty approached the BBC and asked why they misled the public over the Smith sighting. The BBC admitted their mistake and have issued a retraction within the iPlayer edition of their 10th Anniversary programme.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2018, 11:04:41 PM by John »
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 12:31:04 PM »
There was never any evidence that he retracted his statement, but good for her for dispelling that 'McCann supporter myth'. 
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 12:39:43 PM »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 12:44:47 PM »

The Sunday Times article on those hidden E-Fits also claimed that Mr Smith had since retracted his claim.

From the article....

"Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility"

Lying b......s.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 12:52:02 PM »
I think this demonstrates a problem with media. They can get away with anything unless they face a legal challenge.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   11 years and still no solution.

Offline jassi

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 12:57:30 PM »
Will anyone launch a legal challenge to what Miss O'Doherty has written  ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   11 years and still no solution.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 01:00:36 PM »
Will anyone launch a legal challenge to what Miss O'Doherty has written  ?

Not sure on what grounds, if she is reporting M.Smith’s Opinion as a witness then not really.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 01:01:16 PM »

Neither Scotland Yard or the PJ believe there is any possibility of this sighting being Gerry, at all, period.

That is all that matters.

'Neither persons of interest or suspects.'

I just thought I'd say this to save the supporters the time & effort.

Now, about that Tanner sighting..SY haven't ruled it out completely..he could still have been the abductor....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 01:04:20 PM »

Anyone interested in what the relatives and children of Mr. Smith had to say?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 01:08:48 PM »
Anyone interested in what the relatives and children of Mr. Smith had to say?

Why what did they say?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2018, 01:16:45 PM by slartibartfast »
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 01:09:42 PM »
His wife agreed & the rest of the family didn't apparently.

But it doesn't matter anyway because Not Suspects.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 01:22:22 PM »
For the argument to come;

It's a fact that Martin Smith said he was 60-80% sure that the man he saw was Gerry McCann.
It's a fact that the media reported that he later retracted that statement.
It now seems that the media were wrong. Mr Smith didn't retract his statement.

Mr Smith's claim was his opinion. Anyone who disagrees with him is also expressing an opinion.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 01:24:12 PM »
Evidence provided at the time by members of the Smith family, from Maple Drive, Drogheda, Co Louth, was considered credible by the review officers.

Martin Smith and his wife Mary revealed to investigators how they saw a man carrying a young child through the streets of Praia da Luz in Portugal on the night Madeleine went missing.

She disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family's apartment on the Algarve.

The Smith family told police how they had left Kelly's Bar in the resort at around 10pm

They then passed a man walking down the middle of the street who was carrying a girl aged about three to four years old

It was claimed that the child's head was lying against the man's left shoulder and her arms were hanging down alongside her body.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/irish-couple-may-hold-key-evidence-in-madeleine-mccann-case-29397648.html
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 01:28:47 PM »
For the argument to come;

It's a fact that Martin Smith said he was 60-80% sure that the man he saw was Gerry McCann.
It's a fact that the media reported that he later retracted that statement.
It now seems that the media were wrong. Mr Smith didn't retract his statement.

Mr Smith's claim was his opinion. Anyone who disagrees with him is also expressing an opinion.

Excellent.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why Were We Lied to By the BBC ?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 01:58:29 PM »






Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.