Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Carana]

It sounds like he needs to apply for 'settled status' too.

The EHIC / S1 reciprocal health care arrangement is going out of the window (to check if that's only in the event of a no-deal, or whether that would apply even in the event of a deal) and people are supposed to apply for a "comprehensive sickness insurance" in their country of residence. I still haven't got to the bottom of what that actually is, nor how anyone is supposed to get it. I was told it's private - but for people who already have health conditions, the premiums are likely to be way above what an average household can afford or the condition in question may even be excluded.

Brits in the EU face the same issue.

If having this CSI is a prerequisite for settled status, what on earth are people in these kinds of situation supposed to do?

[Carana]

After it happens there will be 27 EU countries instead of 28.

LOL Yes, but beyond that?

[Carana]

Ciaran Jenkins
‏Verified account @C4Ciaran

Free healthcare for UK pensioners in EU ends under No Deal unless there are new arrangements.

Govt advice is take out private medical.

I met Brit in Spain whose meds would otherwise cost €700 a month. Quoted €100K a year for cover and ‘terrified’.
https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/1094317672429424641

[Carana]

https://twitter.com/2di2d/status/1095909156207366149

[Venturi Swirl]

“Ford has said it will do “whatever is necessary” to protect its business in the face of no-deal Brexit as it ramps up plans to move UK manufacturing jobs overseas.

The US car giant employs 13,000 people in the UK including 5,000 in manufacturing roles at its Bridgend, Dagenham and Halewood plants and 3,000 at its research and development hub.

On Wednesday, Ford warned that crashing out of the EU with no trade deal would threaten the future of its UK operations.

“Such a situation would be catastrophic for the UK auto industry and Ford’s manufacturing operations in the country,” the company said in a statement”.

“We will take whatever action is necessary to preserve the competitiveness of our European business.”

[Carana]

“Ford has said it will do “whatever is necessary” to protect its business in the face of no-deal Brexit as it ramps up plans to move UK manufacturing jobs overseas.

The US car giant employs 13,000 people in the UK including 5,000 in manufacturing roles at its Bridgend, Dagenham and Halewood plants and 3,000 at its research and development hub.

On Wednesday, Ford warned that crashing out of the EU with no trade deal would threaten the future of its UK operations.

“Such a situation would be catastrophic for the UK auto industry and Ford’s manufacturing operations in the country,” the company said in a statement”.

“We will take whatever action is necessary to preserve the competitiveness of our European business.”

Ah, but although in 2016 Minford's opinion was that a no-deal Brexit would decimate UK manufacturing, his apparently most recent view is that no deal isn't a problem at all as the EU (and presumably others) would have to lower the price of their goods to absorb the tariff. He thinks this is a clever scheme that would both give the UK an advantage and hurt the EU (to much clapping).
https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1096520177515155459

[Carana]

Seemingly Porsche, for one, doesn't quite see it that way...


Porsche asks UK buyers to commit to 10% no-deal Brexit surcharge

Company says move is a precaution in case WTO tariffs apply to EU-UK trade

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/15/porsche-asks-uk-buyers-to-commit-to-10-no-deal-brexit-surcharge

[G-Unit]

LOL Yes, but beyond that?

That's what the politicians should be concentrating on instead of  trying to prevent the result of the referendum from being implemented.

[G-Unit]

https://twitter.com/2di2d/status/1095909156207366149

Judging by that the UK was never very committed to EU membership, was it?

[Carana]

That's what the politicians should be concentrating on instead of  trying to prevent the result of the referendum from being implemented.

Well after over 2 years, no one seems to agree - and if a deal can't get past Parliament (and the ERG appear to be in favour of a no-deal), then what? The UK is by default out on its bum.

The only way out of not crashing might well be for a new ref or a revocation.

[Carana]

Judging by that the UK was never very committed to EU membership, was it?

It was certainly able to cherry-pick as a member, and had considerable influence over EU laws; a luxury it will no longer have.

[Carana]

Back to the EU having to absorb the cost of tariffs by lowering their prices, AFAIK, that certainly wouldn't happen in the car industry, nor in the agri sector.

From memory, the tariff on a car is 10%, but the profit margin is only 10% for a "normal" car (so I'm told). Are EU manufacturers expected to offer them at cost?

What about dairy and sheep meat imports (lamb chops, etc.), for example, where the tariffs range from 35% (dairy) to 50% on certain cuts of lamb? Are farmers supposed to export at a loss?

[G-Unit]

Ciaran Jenkins
‏Verified account @C4Ciaran

Free healthcare for UK pensioners in EU ends under No Deal unless there are new arrangements.

Govt advice is take out private medical.

I met Brit in Spain whose meds would otherwise cost €700 a month. Quoted €100K a year for cover and ‘terrified’.
https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/1094317672429424641

If we leave the EU on 29th March without a deal ex pats in France, for example, will be treated as they are now for another two years. During that time the plan is to put new reciprocal arrangements in place. In my opinion stories such as the above are irresponsible and are intended to alarm.

[Carana]

If we leave the EU on 29th March without a deal ex pats in France, for example, will be treated as they are now for another two years. During that time the plan is to put new reciprocal arrangements in place. In my opinion stories such as the above are irresponsible and are intended to alarm.

That's not what I've read. Can you remember where you read that?

What I've read is somewhat different:
https://www.thelocal.fr/20190208/no-deal-brexit-what-the-new-french-law-means-for-britons-in-france-so-far

[Carana]

Before I lose it (I really don't have the time to double-check it at the moment)



James Melville
‏ @JamesMelville

Since 1999, the UK has voted in agreement with 95% of EU laws. The UK has only voted against 2% of EU laws - of which most of them were related to tax avoidance regulation.
11:08 PM - 13 Feb 2019
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1095973062456029184