Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Carana]

Those who voted leave don't want to be governed by unelected foreigner bureaucrats and pay handsomely for the privilege.  They also don't want the UK overrun by illegals or foreigners who think that they can stay for ever just because they get a job.

- You do realise that the UK has co-equal 3rd highest number of MEPS?
- What are you saying: that tax-paying foreigners who make a positive contribution to the economy shouldn't be allowed to stay?

[Carana]

Did Farage ever win a seat in the UK?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage

[G-Unit]

Those who voted leave don't want to be governed by unelected foreigner bureaucrats and pay handsomely for the privilege.  They also don't want the UK overrun by illegals or foreigners who think that they can stay for ever just because they get a job.

It's hardly surprising when the EU's free movement was forcing the UK to accept EU people. At the same time the government's austerity policies were reducing public services and benefits. If resources are scarce people won't want to share them.

[Carana]

One of my concerns is that poorer people on a diet of fish fingers and other cheap food are going to feel the pinch once tariffs kick in. It's not the millionaires who can swan off to wherever.

Birds Eye tells Brexiteers food price warnings are not ‘scaremongering’
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/birds-eye-tells-brexiteers-food-price-warnings-are-not-scaremongering-1-5896108

[Carana]

Have they got proof that British citizens voted for Brexit because they were influenced by 'fake news'?

There is a clip floating around of Farage thanking Bannon and Breitbart.

There's also this re the Trump election.
https://twitter.com/JamieJBartlett/status/1097426116346703872

However, of the people I know personally, I don't think any are on FB - but do get the DM every day.

The main right-wing tabloids have been stoking fear and anger for decades, and for people who don't have time to read much else, the messages sink in, whether they're conscious of it or not.

[Carana]

For those scared, for whaever reason, at the idea of being dragged into a "European army", the UK would retain control of whether it was a good idea or not.


Cornwall for Europe #FBPE
‏ @Cornwall4EU

After tonight's excellent event in Penzance, we asked EU law specialist Professor Michael Dougan, about the frequent claim that remaining in the EU would mean getting involved in an "EU army". He explained that this is yet another Brexiter scare story.
https://twitter.com/Cornwall4EU/status/1096565609310183425

[Admin]

For those scared, for whaever reason, at the idea of being dragged into a "European army", the UK would retain control of whether it was a good idea or not.


Cornwall for Europe #FBPE
‏ @Cornwall4EU

After tonight's excellent event in Penzance, we asked EU law specialist Professor Michael Dougan, about the frequent claim that remaining in the EU would mean getting involved in an "EU army". He explained that this is yet another Brexiter scare story.
https://twitter.com/Cornwall4EU/status/1096565609310183425

A non issue thankfully as we will be leaving the EU.

[Carana]

I understand G-Unit's point about respecting democracy. Where I disagree is that the pro-Brexit politicians campaigning either didn't know what they were talking about or were deliberately fudging. Yet many must have voted on the basis of mis- / disinformation (the ones I know didn't have a single "fact" that was actually true). If people have been misled / manipulated into voting a certain way, is that the democratic "will of the people", or are the people simply useful idiots for an unspecified agenda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

[Carana]

A non issue thankfully as we will be leaving the EU.

It was a non-issue to begin with.

[Carana]

Sky News Breaking
‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak
13m13 minutes ago

Sky Sources say Japanese car manufacturer Honda is preparing to close its Swindon plant with the loss of 3,500 jobs

I've lost count of all the sunny uplands...

[Venturi Swirl]

Sky News Breaking
‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak
13m13 minutes ago

Sky Sources say Japanese car manufacturer Honda is preparing to close its Swindon plant with the loss of 3,500 jobs

I've lost count of all the sunny uplands...

Honda is set to announce the closure of its Swindon car plant in 2022, with the loss of about 3,500 jobs.
The Japanese company made 160,000 Honda Civics in Swindon last year, of which some 90% were exported to the EU.

[Venturi Swirl]

A non issue thankfully as we will be leaving the EU.

But one which helped sway a number of people to vote Leave as part of Project Fear.

[Venturi Swirl]

Those who voted leave don't want to be governed by unelected foreigner bureaucrats and pay handsomely for the privilege.  They also don't want the UK overrun by illegals or foreigners who think that they can stay for ever just because they get a job.

Immigration will continue to rise post Brexit so the people will not get what they want anyway. 

[Venturi Swirl]

It's crazy transporting cars halfway around the world when we could make even better ones here in the UK while taking advantage of the new green electric motor era.  Instead of giving billions away to the EU the government should be subsidising a national car and truck industry to build our own.

These billions of pounds we’re not giving to the EU have already been earmarked for the NHS haven’t they?

[Venturi Swirl]

This is what Honda had to say about Brexit 18 months ago:

The devastating impact of a hard Brexit on the UK car industry was laid bare on Tuesday to MPs, who were told every 15 minutes of customs delays would cost some manufacturers up to £850,000 a year.

Presenting the industry’s most detailed evidence yet to the business select committee, Honda UK said it relied on 350 trucks a day arriving from Europe to keep its giant Swindon factory operating, with just an hour’s worth of parts being held on the production line.

The Japanese-owned company said it would take 18 months to set up new procedures and warehouses if Britain left the customs union but that, with 2m daily component movements, even minor delays at Dover and the Channel tunnel would force hundreds of its trucks to wait for the equivalent of 90 hours a day.

“Outside of the customs union, there is no such thing as a frictionless border,” said Honda’s government affairs manager, Patrick Keating.

“I wouldn’t say that the just-in-time manufacturing model wouldn’t work, but it would certainly be very challenging.”

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Perhaps this has something to do with today’s decision?