Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Miss Taken Identity]

Many years ago Mark Twain said "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it". It seems David Cameron made an error of judgement by instigating the referendum because that vote did mmake a difference; hence the desperate attempts to overturn the result.

Indeed!

And look what the  EU beaurocrats did in Ireland- twice they voted against the EU and TWICE they were  erm overruled...

Britain isn't quite a push over ...

[Venturi Swirl]

From today’s Sunday Times:

It is a belief that some pro-Europeans already hold dear, but a group of scientists now claim to have confirmed it: Brexit voters are less bright than remainers.

Researchers gave 11,225 volunteers psychological tests before the referendum and asked how they intended to vote. Results suggest that leavers tended to be less numerate, more impulsive and more prone to accept the unsupported claims of authoritarian figures.

“Compared with remain voters, leave voters displayed significantly lower levels of numeracy and appeared more reliant on impulsive thinking,” said the researchers. The study was commissioned by Britain’s Online Privacy Foundation and analysed by scientists at Missouri University.”

*stands well back*

[Miss Taken Identity]

From today’s Sunday Times:

It is a belief that some pro-Europeans already hold dear, but a group of scientists now claim to have confirmed it: Brexit voters are less bright than remainers.

Researchers gave 11,225 volunteers psychological tests before the referendum and asked how they intended to vote. Results suggest that leavers tended to be less numerate, more impulsive and more prone to accept the unsupported claims of authoritarian figures.

“Compared with remain voters, leave voters displayed significantly lower levels of numeracy and appeared more reliant on impulsive thinking,” said the researchers. The study was commissioned by Britain’s Online Privacy Foundation and analysed by scientists at Missouri University.”

*stands well back*

 

 

AND anothe group of scientist said.... oh no wait... another group of 9 scientist actually voted leave. hm  but then they didn't get a change to take part in that study.. dang.

Ok this thing about stats... Seriously.  and phychologist? OMG OK a  a a a a a ay.

[Venturi Swirl]

 

AND anothe group of scientist said.... oh no wait... another group of 9 scientist actually voted leave. hm  but then they didn't get a change to take part in that study.. dang.

Ok this thing about stats... Seriously.  and phychologist? OMG OK a  a a a a a ay.

A very intelligent riposte I’m sure.

[G-Unit]

From today’s Sunday Times:

It is a belief that some pro-Europeans already hold dear, but a group of scientists now claim to have confirmed it: Brexit voters are less bright than remainers.

Researchers gave 11,225 volunteers psychological tests before the referendum and asked how they intended to vote. Results suggest that leavers tended to be less numerate, more impulsive and more prone to accept the unsupported claims of authoritarian figures.

“Compared with remain voters, leave voters displayed significantly lower levels of numeracy and appeared more reliant on impulsive thinking,” said the researchers. The study was commissioned by Britain’s Online Privacy Foundation and analysed by scientists at Missouri University.”

*stands well back*

The Online Privacy Foundation. An organisation which seeks to show how the internet can be used to manipulate people. They claim to be unbiased but I sense an agenda. 

[Venturi Swirl]

The Online Privacy Foundation. An organisation which seeks to show how the internet can be used to manipulate people. They claim to be unbiased but I sense an agenda.

Of course you do, but really the research wasn’t necessary.  Leave voters tended to be less well educated and more likely to be in lower paid “blue collar” jobs, and it is a known fact that IQ levels vary dramatically by profession

140 - Top civil servants; professors, and research scientists.
130 - Physicians, surgeons, lawyers, engineers
120 - School teachers, pharmacists, accountants, nurses, stenographers, managers.
110 - Foremen, clerks, telephone operators, salesmen, policemen, electricians.
100 plus - Machine operators, shopkeepers, butchers, welders, sheet metal Workers.
Below 100 - Warehouse men, carpenters, cooks, bakers, small farmers, truck and van Drivers.
90 - Laborers, gardeners, miners, factory packers and sorters.

https://psychologenie.com/average-iq-score
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

Also IQ declines the older you get and the older you are the more likely you were to have voted leave.
https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

[Venturi Swirl]

According to the Today programme earlier  the removal of hundreds of billions of pounds out of the UK by banks as a result of Brexit uncertainty will cost us 1% in tax returns or close to £10 billion pounds.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-banks/assets-worth-800-billion-pounds-to-shift-from-uk-to-eu-due-to-brexit-ey-idUKKCN1P10SQ
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-banks/brexit-fallout-on-uk-finance-intensifies-think-tank-idUKKBN1QS00B

[G-Unit]

Of course you do, but really the research wasn’t necessary.  Leave voters tended to be less well educated and more likely to be in lower paid “blue collar” jobs, and it is a known fact that IQ levels vary dramatically by profession

140 - Top civil servants; professors, and research scientists.
130 - Physicians, surgeons, lawyers, engineers
120 - School teachers, pharmacists, accountants, nurses, stenographers, managers.
110 - Foremen, clerks, telephone operators, salesmen, policemen, electricians.
100 plus - Machine operators, shopkeepers, butchers, welders, sheet metal Workers.
Below 100 - Warehouse men, carpenters, cooks, bakers, small farmers, truck and van Drivers.
90 - Laborers, gardeners, miners, factory packers and sorters.

https://psychologenie.com/average-iq-score
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

Also IQ declines the older you get and the older you are the more likely you were to have voted leave.
https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

I wonder how many manual workers are hiding theit lights under a bushel like me? I returned to education at the age of 40 and revealed that I had the ability to achieve a 2:1 Honours degree from a University ranked in the UK top ten.

[Venturi Swirl]

I wonder how many manual workers are hiding theit lights under a bushel like me? I returned to education at the age of 40 and revealed that I had the ability to achieve a 2:1 Honours degree from a University ranked in the UK top ten.

There are of course numerous exceptions to the rule, but you either accept the generalities that such statistical evidence throws up or you can choose to ignore it.  I don't really care. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

There are of course numerous exceptions to the rule, but you either accept the generalities that such statistical evidence throws up or you can choose to ignore it.  I don't really care.

Look if you are going to chuck stats accusing people of being DIM. Then do it properly!

Take the voting population of the UK.  do a test on everyone. check the  the stats before Brexit. look at the number who voted- look at how  all Brexit voters faired in the 'test'' and compare it with the remoaners.
Then come back with the results and impress me- untill then  just 

It wasn't really very smart of the many 'more intellegent' remoaners NOT to vote at all... heehee

[G-Unit]

There are of course numerous exceptions to the rule, but you either accept the generalities that such statistical evidence throws up or you can choose to ignore it.  I don't really care.

The whole point of that study was to suggest that those who voted to leave the EU were unfit to decide. Should voting be limited to those who score above a certain level in an IQ test? Thet would be hilarious.

[Venturi Swirl]

The whole point of that study was to suggest that those who voted to leave the EU were unfit to decide. Should voting be limited to those who score above a certain level in an IQ test? Thet would be hilarious.

Could you please provide a cite from anyone who has EVER suggested that those who voted Leave were unfit to decide?  Of course everyone legally permitted to vote should be allowed to do so, from the dimmest bulb in the box to the brightest. 

[G-Unit]

Could you please provide a cite from anyone who has EVER suggested that those who voted Leave were unfit to decide?  Of course everyone legally permitted to vote should be allowed to do so, from the dimmest bulb in the box to the brightest.

Bit not in a referendum. perhaps;

a fundamental question is raised as to whether direct democracy in the form of binary, winner-takes-all, referendums is an appropriate mechanism for deciding major and complicated political issues, such as constitutional change
https://www.onlineprivacyfoundation.org/opf-research/psychological-biases/personality-authoritarianism-and-cognition-in-brexit/

The inference being that the idiots don't understand what they're doing.

[Venturi Swirl]

Bit not in a referendum. perhaps;

a fundamental question is raised as to whether direct democracy in the form of binary, winner-takes-all, referendums is an appropriate mechanism for deciding major and complicated political issues, such as constitutional change
https://www.onlineprivacyfoundation.org/opf-research/psychological-biases/personality-authoritarianism-and-cognition-in-brexit/

The inference being that the idiots don't understand what they're doing.

There is a good argument to be made for not letting the general public make decisions of massive national importance, particularly if they are extremely complex and the public is largely ignorant about them, as they were about the EU. 
"A core purpose of referendums is to engage those with relatively low information about the issues, which is to say the general population, in the choice. This makes them especially vulnerable to producing decisions based on false information and/or unrealistic beliefs about what alternatives are possible - often stoked by opportunistic actors within the political system" https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/referendums.aspx

[Eleanor]

Of course you do, but really the research wasn’t necessary.  Leave voters tended to be less well educated and more likely to be in lower paid “blue collar” jobs, and it is a known fact that IQ levels vary dramatically by profession

140 - Top civil servants; professors, and research scientists.
130 - Physicians, surgeons, lawyers, engineers
120 - School teachers, pharmacists, accountants, nurses, stenographers, managers.
110 - Foremen, clerks, telephone operators, salesmen, policemen, electricians.
100 plus - Machine operators, shopkeepers, butchers, welders, sheet metal Workers.
Below 100 - Warehouse men, carpenters, cooks, bakers, small farmers, truck and van Drivers.
90 - Laborers, gardeners, miners, factory packers and sorters.

https://psychologenie.com/average-iq-score
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/how-britain-voted-2016-eu-referendum

Also IQ declines the older you get and the older you are the more likely you were to have voted leave.
https://medium.com/psyc-406-2015/how-fast-does-iq-decline-can-you-do-anything-about-it-f5ca370d8b62

I had an IQ of 149 at the age of thirty.  And according to my carers my IQ was pretty impressive at the age of thirteen.  For me this is only to do with Logic.  And ultimately Education,  of which I had none.

My General Knowledge remains suspect.

At the age of eighty, I have no idea of my IQ.  But my Logic remains intact.