Brexit: Vote Leave drops appeal against referendum spending fine
29 March 2019
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47755611
So if the campaign was illegal, as in electrol law, what does it say for the idea of leaving the EU, does it and could it reverse the vote?
Was parliament waiting on this outcome?
Has this whole episode been a game of smoke and mirrors, to confuse the electorate and cause division?
It was ridiculous going into the idea of a referendum without an answer to the possible outcome of leave,... Who puts forward a proposal without a plan of action to back up said proposal?
The commons are in chaos, the public bemused , the carrot was dangled only for people to realise it was a parsnip instead.
The manipulation of the situation is astounding to watch, with no-one having a clear idea as to what to do next, or rather keeping their cards close to their chests..
The idea of a referendum about leaving the EU, has satisfied those who for decades wanted such a referendum, but I feel in reality it was never going to happen.... They offered up the referendum and now there are many ways to scupper it... whilst they waste billions of pounds in doing so....
Which ever side people fall on, it is sad that we are where we are today, and simple basic issues that our government have ignored has caused anger in the country.... Homelessness and poverty being a major contributor to peoples feelings...
Looking at a brief history of the EU, we have this period of time...
And it's almost laughable if it was so serious... poverty and people starving in our nation is a frightening reality... food banks, for families and people needing shelter and a roof on their heads, has been ignored by our government, Universal Credit a cruel punishment for poverty and disability in this country....
The EU needs to take note of what our government has done to it's people and how it has cut and cut services over ever aspect of a society , but, nothing happens in that aspect... And there needs to be change... Whether we are in the EU or we leave
I do not know the answer, like with everything else, I'm exasperated at the idea of the referendum being started in the first place, without the support of an entire political party, who would have and should have taken control of parliament of the day.... Having the majority in parliament and being able to deliver on what the referendum outcome was... that being leave as we would have continued in the same vein if remain had won the referendum.
But we get cross party campaigners trying to deliver a campaign on an important issue of the day, when they have no leverage in which to deliver said outcome... It was always going to fail...
Manipulating people is the way of politics, and nothing gets done, those who 'have' get more, and those who 'don't' get less..
Edit.... The indicative vote which is to be held on April Fool's day, only makes me question, is it Parliament having the last laugh, as they once more take the pee out of the voting public... As we become the Guinea Pig for any other nation contemplating leaving the EU... A process thrown into chaos watched by the world and seen to be an impossible task to achieve..
Will it dissuade, other countries from trying to do the same thing??
https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/history_en
What an excellent post.
I question this part
"So if the campaign was illegal, as in electrol law, what does it say for the idea of leaving the EU, does it and could it reverse the vote?"There is no evidence it was illegal,just allegations. and the leave campaign have said they gave up the fight due to rising costs to defend themselves.
Many people have to walk away from various allegations due to costs to defend themselves.
On other forums where name calling and nasty snipes are not allowed, just serious debate with a little light hearter banter it is very easy to see the bview of both sides.
There are issues with this whole episode in our nations history.
It was the the Labour Government- Bliar and Campbell who against the will of 3 million marchers, and professional expert advice on the ground who took it upon themselves to slaughter innocent men women and children! in the name of an "war being declared on us by Saddam Hussien.Turns out no war- just milions of people dead, homeless coutryless. Thank you Tone- well done that one. So Teflon tony has a history of not listening to the will of the people- these slime bags think they rule us and lets face it THEY REALLY DO!
Having an open door policy to help the poor and unfortunate became an opportunity for revenge and mass frauds, who crawled in with these poor unfortunates. Using all means, hardened criminals doing unspeakable things to get power and status in the UK. Many in their own country wanted for crimes against humanity. but hey they got large villas in London near the rich set. car and phones were in abundance to help these 'poor' refugees. We woke up to these con men /women too late. We do not have the infrastructure to accommodate peoles from around the world in such quantities. Those who complained were called names (The usual way to deflect responsibility or face the argument. rascist, islamophobes,etc)- untill London was bombed by fanatics an'terror' schools were opening up in the name of 'freedom' and cultural recognition. oh yeah!
It was in the face of all this that the indigenous population becan a whispering disgruntlement, which was on the quiet in fear of being jailed for saying something... So what happened they found a voice in the name of the bloody Nazi party! BNP.
Politicians wer in a flux began the usual name calling to 'scare them off' untill they realised that this was deeper and wider that they first thought.
That is when I became interested in Brexit- I saw the reasons not being addressed and got scared of having the BNP ruling over us. Which will happen if things do not get sorted.
Three things which people wer ecomplaining about
NHS refugees regardless if they were or were not were put ahaead of indigenous population
GP Surgeries were over subscribed- but this made the GPs richer as they get paid per name on register
Housing- a huge issue especially in London. Housing benefit in the region of 2000 thousand pounds per month was being paid to 'land lord' for 'nice' houses for the 'refugees' -when this was highlighted it stopped.
Schools- many different languages and culteral observance has caused huge problems in many areas. small community school who had less than 250 pupils had 600 crammed into them leaving locals to find alternative school outside their catchment area.
These are very genuine concerns which should have been addressed. but all they did was name call. shut up and put up was the answer.
Just as an aside Phoney Toney had his children claim joint citzen ship as Irish... erm well just in case his war escalated and ther was a call up...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211450/The-young-OBlairs--Former-Prime-Ministers-children-Irish-passports-thanks-grandmother.html
