Who had the motive for Maddie's disappearance.

[kizzy]

What on earth does the sentence in bold mean? Furthermore if you think CB is supposed to have committed the perfect crime then what about the McCanns?  Wasn’t theirs even more perfect?  Get rid of the troublesome child AND all the fame and fortune that follows AND they can never, ever be prosecuted either!  What master criminals, eh?

And - why does anyone go to the trouble of abducting a child from their bedroom?  You do know it’s happened before don’t you?

You do know it’s happened before don’t you?

What like it's a natural occurrence children go missing in Portugal from their beds.

[kizzy]

“What would CB's motive have been to abduct an English little girl that no trace has ever been found”?
A conviction for abusing his girlfriend’s 5-year-old daughter. The internet chat, wanting to catch something small, torture it for days … Him exposing himself to young children in Messines. The Joana Eilts incident at Salema beach.

Yes, he is an absolutely nasty piece of work ...but what motive would he have to suddenly start another career in abduction he comes across as being more impulsive rather than stealing a child.

If he had successfully got away with it as some think....why did he stop at just Maddie.

How would he know the children were left on their own in the first place....and would be for the rest of the week.

[Venturi Swirl]

You do know it’s happened before don’t you?

What like it's a natural occurrence children go missing in Portugal from their beds.

I can only imagine you’re being deliberately obtuse.  Did I say it was a natural occurrence?  Did I mention Portugal?  You questioned why any paedo would bother snatching a child from its bedroom and I pointed out that it has happened before, several times.  Whether or not it happened in Portugal or Timbuktu is kind of irrelevant (though there may well be more registered paedos living in the Algarve than in Timbuktu).

[Mr Gray]

That's probably why it was destined to fail.


Operation Grange destined to fail?
The review and investigation conducted by Operation Grange, a special unit set up within London’s police force more than a decade ago, was always destined to fail, according to a well-known, distinguished London detective who said he would not get involved in the case because the official remit of Operation Grange was to investigate the “abduction” in the Algarve as if it had taken place in the UK. Why such a limited remit when suspicions hovered over Madeleine’s parents and while there was very little credible evidence that Madeleine had been abducted?

You are just quoting someones opinion..
When SY first got involved I doubted very much tehy would be able to solve such a cold case....but it looks as though they have. Well done SY

[Venturi Swirl]

Yes, he is an absolutely nasty piece of work ...but what motive would he have to suddenly start another career in abduction he comes across as being more impulsive rather than stealing a child.

If he had successfully got away with it as some think....why did he stop at just Maddie.

How would he know the children were left on their own in the first place....and would be for the rest of the week.

Let’s examine the McCanns motive then.  Why do you think they had to dispose of the body?

[kizzy]

You are just quoting someones opinion..
When SY first got involved I doubted very much tehy would be able to solve such a cold case....but it looks as though they have. Well done SY

Well, just seems the same now quoting someone's opinion...yours

[kizzy]

I can only imagine you’re being deliberately obtuse.  Did I say it was a natural occurrence?  Did I mention Portugal?  You questioned why any paedo would bother snatching a child from its bedroom and I pointed out that it has happened before, several times.  Whether or not it happened in Portugal or Timbuktu is kind of irrelevant (though there may well be more registered paedos living in the Algarve than in Timbuktu).

more registered paedos living in the Algarve


Seems there are hundreds.

Why I'm not sure...but it does seem to me CB rather than have a motive for abducting Maddie

Is being fitted to the crime ....rather than the crime fitting him.

[Mr Gray]

Well, just seems the same now quoting someone's opinion...yours

Aas long as you understand you are not quoting facts. Almost everything is an opinion. A guity verdict is an opinion.
You have to decide whos opinion caries the most weight.
I see Mark Rowly as a reliable opinion...went to the same school as I did..then went to cambridge to study maths...very bright.
Hes seen all the evidence that we havent....and concludes maddie was abducted

[Venturi Swirl]

more registered paedos living in the Algarve


Seems there are hundreds.

Why I'm not sure...but it does seem to me CB rather than have a motive for abducting Maddie

Is being fitted to the crime ....rather than the crime fitting him.

Do you think CB is innocent of the crime of entering an old woman’s property and sadistically raping her?

[kizzy]

Let’s examine the McCanns motive then.  Why do you think they had to dispose of the body?

Not so hard VS ...if GA is right and an accident occurred either way Maddie would be dead.

Seems not only had they lost Maddie ...they would lose everything.

We know reputation for the mccs seems vital... reputation imo is top of the list even now.

The grieving process would be the same either way.

They were in a foreign country it seems on survival mode.

there is a thing called fight or flight.

Fight-or-flight response
The fight-or-flight or the fight-flight-or-freeze response is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival. It was first described by Walter Bradford.

GA has never been proved wrong in his theory and to this day he believes only the mccs had a motive to make maddie disappear.

[Mr Gray]

Not so hard VS ...if GA is right and an accident occurred either way Maddie would be dead.

Seems not only had they lost Maddie ...they would lose everything.

We know reputation for the mccs seems vital... reputation imo is top of the list even now.

The grieving process would be the same either way.

They were in a foreign country it seems on survival mode.

there is a thing called fight or flight.

Fight-or-flight response
The fight-or-flight or the fight-flight-or-freeze response is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival. It was first described by Walter Bradford.

GA has never been proved wrong in his theory and to this day he believes only the mccs had a motive to make maddie disappear.

Sadies theory has ever been proven wrong either....Amnarals theory is not based on any evidence..hes an absolute clown afaiac

[Lace]

Not so hard VS ...if GA is right and an accident occurred either way Maddie would be dead.

Seems not only had they lost Maddie ...they would lose everything.

We know reputation for the mccs seems vital... reputation imo is top of the list even now.

The grieving process would be the same either way.

They were in a foreign country it seems on survival mode.

there is a thing called fight or flight.

Fight-or-flight response
The fight-or-flight or the fight-flight-or-freeze response is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival. It was first described by Walter Bradford.

GA has never been proved wrong in his theory and to this day he believes only the mccs had a motive to make maddie disappear.

So if Madeleine had had an accident you think it would be better for the McCann's to stage an abduction rather than to admit that Madeleine had died from an accident???   To me it is worse that Madeleine could have been abducted.  Falling and dying from an accident is far better than being abducted by some Paedophile.   They admitted they weren't there they admitted the door was open so what in your way of thinking would be better to not admit to an accident but to stage an abduction instead?

By the way Amaral's theory was not proven,  it was not proven that the McCann's had given Madeleine Campol,  it was not proven that Madeleine could hear her father talking on the road,  neither was it proven she fell.  The dogs didn't prove anything either even though Amaral said they did.

[Venturi Swirl]

Not so hard VS ...if GA is right and an accident occurred either way Maddie would be dead.

Seems not only had they lost Maddie ...they would lose everything.

We know reputation for the mccs seems vital... reputation imo is top of the list even now.

The grieving process would be the same either way.

They were in a foreign country it seems on survival mode.

there is a thing called fight or flight.

Fight-or-flight response
The fight-or-flight or the fight-flight-or-freeze response is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival. It was first described by Walter Bradford.

GA has never been proved wrong in his theory and to this day he believes only the mccs had a motive to make maddie disappear.

Young children die in accidents all over the world and most cases can be traced back to inadequate parental supervision or care to a greater or lesser degree.  Most people care about their reputstions and careers.  Very few parents (personally I can’t think of any) have covered up the accidental death of a much loved and otherwise well cared for child by faking an abduction simply to protect their own skins.  I would say it’s a less common occurrence  than children actually being abducted by a stranger.

[kizzy]

Sadies theory has ever been proven wrong either....Amnarals theory is not based on any evidence..hes an absolute clown afaiac

Well obviously ...

But he knows much much more than you.

Wolt's theory is not based on evidence either....and seems to have backfired big time,..you can't prove otherwise.

What you need to look at is motive.

Even wolt IMO had a motive to use Maddie's case to get maximum publicity for other cases he was trying to solve.

[kizzy]

So if Madeleine had had an accident you think it would be better for the McCann's to stage an abduction rather than to admit that Madeleine had died from an accident???   To me it is worse that Madeleine could have been abducted.  Falling and dying from an accident is far better than being abducted by some Paedophile.   They admitted they weren't there they admitted the door was open so what in your way of thinking would be better to not admit to an accident but to stage an abduction instead?

By the way Amaral's theory was not proven,  it was not proven that the McCann's had given Madeleine Campol,  it was not proven that Madeleine could hear her father talking on the road,  neither was it proven she fell.  The dogs didn't prove anything either even though Amaral said they did.

No well GA never got the chance did he ...so you will never know what the outcome would be.

The DNA was inconclusive .......didn't gmc have to come back to uk for dna IIRCFN