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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #495 on: April 22, 2020, 07:43:09 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fury-from-dominic-raab-forced-top-civil-servant-to-drop-explosive-claim-that-snubbing-eu-procurement-scheme-on-coronavirus-ppe-was-a-political-decision/ar-BB131ApS?ocid=st

From the article.

Missed opportunities to get more PPE
January 31: On the day of Brexit, a UK official attends UK meeting on the emerging virus. Four countries raise the potential need for more PPE -  UK is not among them.

February 4:  UK attends meeting of EU and World Health Organisation (WHO) officials in Luxembourg.

February 24:  European Commission updates officials on PPE procurement and asks countries to outline their 'exact needs'. The UK was invited but did not attend.

February 28:  The EU makes its first join procurement of £1.2million of gloves and gowns. The UK is not involved.

March 12: The procurement fails because of a shortage of suppliers and is relaunched on March 15, still without UK involvement.

March 17: Two more rounds of procurement for masks, goggles and ventilators go forward without the UK

March 19. The UK joins the procurement steering committee but does not join a tender sent out to firms the same day for lab supplies.

March 23: Health Secretary Matt Hancock admits there have been 'challenges' with PPE supply but was taking the issue 'very seriously'.

March 24:  No 10 confirms it has not joined EU procurement effort in favour of its own plan. It later claims it did not join because it missed an email invitation.

March 25: British officials do not attend a meeting at which countries were invited to outline their requirements for future purchases by the next day.

March 26:  The Government says it has 8,175 ventilators, but asks UK firms to build 30,000 more within weeks.

March 29: Two surgeons become the first UK medics to die from coronavirus, putting a spotlight on PPE supplies for the NHS.

April 10:  Mr Hancock appears to suggest NHS medics are being wasteful of masks and gowns, urging them to  'treat PPE as the precious resource it is'.

April 11: Mr Hancock confirms that 19 medics have died from coronavirus, after initially saying it would be 'inappropriate' to reveal the death toll.

April 13: Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab acknowledged that PPE shortages were and issue and admitted supplies were running low because of 'a competitive market out there'.

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #497 on: April 23, 2020, 02:15:19 PM »
https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/22/dont-applaud-us-protect-us-chantforppe/

When did the govt become responsible for ordering medical supplies... Surely that's NHS managers jobs... NHS England..
I doubt any doctors or nurses would dare criticise them so they have to criticise the govt

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #498 on: April 23, 2020, 03:49:43 PM »
When did the govt become responsible for ordering medical supplies... Surely that's NHS managers jobs... NHS England..
I doubt any doctors or nurses would dare criticise them so they have to criticise the govt

That must be it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #499 on: April 23, 2020, 07:11:17 PM »
That must be it.

Im fairly sure it is. Im involved with a lot of poeple who work in the NHS...their gripe is not with the govt but with NHS management...criticising the  management can result in serious consequences

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #500 on: April 23, 2020, 10:52:08 PM »
Im fairly sure it is. Im involved with a lot of poeple who work in the NHS...their gripe is not with the govt but with NHS management...criticising the  management can result in serious consequences

So best make your name public by criticising the government...that will really enhance your career prospects.

Or could it be that they are simply directing blame where it is due ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #501 on: April 23, 2020, 11:05:53 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/two-thirds-of-public-think-uk-coronavirus-response-too-slow-poll

From the article.

The public feel significant uncertainty about the government’s strategy to tackle the coronavirus and are sceptical about the coherence and speed of its response, a new survey has found.

Over two-thirds of the public think the government acted too slowly to control the spread of coronavirus, according to the survey carried out last week by Ipsos Mori on behalf of the Policy Institute at King’s College London. The survey also found that more than 40% of respondents believe the government’s response to the crisis has been confused and inconsistent, with only 30% disagreeing and supporting the government.

Just one in four of the 2,250 respondents said they trust the information provided by the government ‘a great deal’, with only one in five saying they strongly agree that the official advice has been effective.

Nearly one-in-six (16%) workers taking part in the survey also said that they had either lost their job, or were “certain” or “very likely” to lose it as a result of disruption caused by the virus.

Another 14% of respondents said they were “fairly likely” to lose their jobs: bringing the total of possible job losses to 30%.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #502 on: April 23, 2020, 11:16:35 PM »
Weird isn’t it, how appallingly the government are doing, how no one trusts them, how they are responsible for thousands of deaths and yet this...

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/04/20/voting-intention-con-53-lab-32-16-17-apr

I guess if Labour hadn’t been so utterly rubbish for the last few years things might have been different.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #503 on: April 24, 2020, 12:33:03 AM »
The government’s embarrassment over its handling of Covid-19 is clear from the desperation of its so-called rebuttal of the Sunday Times Insight report about failures of leadership as the virus approached. The key claim of this prolix defence was that “it is ridiculous to suggest that coronavirus only reached the UK because the health secretary and not the prime minister chaired a Cobra meeting”. The report suggested nothing of the sort; it stated that Boris Johnson found better things to do than attend the first five meetings about the pandemic, and appeared only once it had reached the UK. One of the oldest refuges of the political scoundrel is to try to neutralise your opponent by attacking him for something he hasn’t done, and hope people are too stupid to notice. Sadly for the government, they aren’t.

Johnson, still absent recuperating from illness, had Michael Gove harrumph on his behalf at the “grotesque” suggestion that the Prime Minister is unequal to his job. “I think,” said Gove, like a less articulate version of the late Lord Hailsham rebuking an interviewer for insolence, “that anyone who considered what happened to the Prime Minister not long ago – nobody can say the Prime Minister isn’t throwing heart and soul into fighting this virus.” Johnson may now be “throwing heart and soul” into tackling the crisis – or at least once he has recovered – but Gove, too, was attacking Johnson’s accusers for claims they had not made. It wasn’t about Johnson’s conduct now; it was about how he behaved when the crisis was still mounting, and when he might have taken its containment rather more seriously.


To have snaffled two weeks’ holiday during what has been branded “38 days of inaction” was by any measure shocking. According to briefings, his absence was to deal with issues in his baroque private life, which some Tories used to find amusing but which are not so funny now. A former senior cabinet minister, who supported Johnson’s leadership campaign, admitted his conduct had been inadequate. “We have to have a full public inquiry after this. And it is going to be damaging.” The Sunday Times quoted a Downing Street adviser on Johnson’s limitations in office: “He didn’t chair any meetings… He didn’t work weekends… It was exactly like people feared he would be.” But when those who knew him – including in these pages – said it would be like this, his backers said Johnson would surround himself with ministers who would do aspects of the job for him (as if that were satisfactory). Instead, he has Dominic Cummings.


“His cabinet is full of yes-men. There is no room for anyone with a mind of their own,” the former minister told me. Whatever mistakes were made early on, “the biggest mistake of all has been leaving Dominic Raab in charge but without any authority. Gove has been on manoeuvres, conspiring with Cummings to ensure Raab can’t assert himself.”

To some Tory MPs, the sheer inexperience of the cabinet has been glaringly obvious, and a further embarrassment. Performances at the daily press conferences or during TV interviews have often been excruciating, and Tories are starting to worry about the government’s ability to command public confidence. Matt Hancock, the Health Minister, has seemed at times a man on the edge of self-control, such as in his ill-considered threat to restrict further the public’s right to leave home should a minority insist on sunbathing or sitting on benches. His suggestion that social care workers receive a badge for their contribution brought the response that they would prefer protective equipment. His petulant performance in some interviews has been cringe-making. “Hancock is shitting himself,” another Tory told me. “It wasn’t supposed to be like this.” Another said that Hancock “was brilliant at doing what he’s told, but can’t take a decision”.


Nobody believes any government would have found it easy to deal with the pandemic; but plenty of governments have confronted grave crises and coped better than this one. Robert Jenrick, the Communities Minister, is another prime example of allowing inexperience and entitlement to trump reality and sap public confidence. Having already humiliated himself by breaking lockdown rules and driving to his taxpayer-subsidised country house – something for which a man of honour, once rumbled, would have resigned – he then promised next-day delivery of much-needed protective equipment, which did not arrive because it reportedly had not even been ordered.

On 19 April the government appointed Lord Deighton, CEO of the London 2012 Olympics, to be the “Lord Beaverbrook” of this crisis, and ensure supplies of protective equipment. It was, however, as if Churchill had appointed Beaverbrook as Minister of Supply in 1943, not 1941. A prime minister who had attended those Cobra meetings might have addressed the supply problem before NHS staff started to die of Covid-19.


What has happened is shocking and depressing proof of Johnson’s inability to take a serious job seriously. The lack of professionalism that characterised his career in journalism and his conduct as mayor of London and at the Foreign Office is now lethally evident. Johnson, Hancock and other ministers found wanting by this crisis can protest, rightly, that it is out of the ordinary. But Johnson, in missing those five meetings, proved he was not even trying to take control. “What really worries me,” the former Tory minister observed, “is that the economic problems piling up because of this require really serious people to deal with them and lead us out of them. And this cabinet has very few really serious people.” That economic maelstrom will be the context of the inevitable public inquiry. If it is conducted with the necessary thoroughness, the Conservative Party will have to brace itself for a maelstrom of its own.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/04/senior-tory-backbenchers-are-increasingly-alarmed-their-own-government-s

« Last Edit: April 24, 2020, 12:41:09 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #505 on: April 25, 2020, 04:59:59 PM »
Belgium has a population of 11 million, they have conducted more than 16 thousand tests per million of population yet have a deaths per million figure of 597 and are easing lockdown already.  The UK’s testing figure per million is around 9.5k per million on a population of 60 million, and our deaths per million are around half of Belgium’s and we are still on lockdown.  So Belgium = way more testing and way more deaths per million than the UK.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline John

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #507 on: April 25, 2020, 07:02:33 PM »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #508 on: April 25, 2020, 07:07:54 PM »
If I recall, we were all far too busy with Brexit to worry about some vague notion of a worldwide pandemic...funny old world.
Undoubtedly the government was all giddy with the excitement of Brexit Day and wasn’t really focussing on the important stuff as much as it should have.  Now we have the combined horrors of a worldwide recession AND the effects of a probable no-deal Brexit to look forward to, I for one can hardly wait... :-(
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline John

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #509 on: April 25, 2020, 08:46:46 PM »
Undoubtedly the government was all giddy with the excitement of Brexit Day and wasn’t really focussing on the important stuff as much as it should have.  Now we have the combined horrors of a worldwide recession AND the effects of a probable no-deal Brexit to look forward to, I for one can hardly wait... :-(

Never a dull day eh VS?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.