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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #585 on: July 06, 2020, 03:15:56 PM »
Quote from: Lace on July 06, 2020, 01:06:28 PM
So the waiter confused David and Matt for Gerry?   We didn't know Gerry was looking under cars until the Nanny said he was.  Look I know you want Gerry to be Smithman,   but Gerry could not have carried Madeleine out of 5a or from anywhere else without being seen by someone.  Once the alert was out people were searching.

Gerry could not have done it but you believe this German could have without being seen. If nobody was around at the time, anybody could have removed Madeleine from the apartment but it would be easier if she wasn't awake.

This is very simple. If Gerry searched the pool area tell me where he has said that in the last 13 years?
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #586 on: July 06, 2020, 03:19:58 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 06, 2020, 09:50:05 AM
The Police weren’t called until after the Smith sighting imo.
So when Gerry was seen in reception between 9.30pm and 10pm it wasn't to check that the police had been called?  What was he doing there then?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #587 on: July 06, 2020, 03:21:02 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 06, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
The OC receptionist said Gerry turned up at some point with John Hill. Neither of those men mentioned this in their statements.
So is the OC receptionist lying or what?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #588 on: July 06, 2020, 03:22:22 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 06, 2020, 03:19:58 PM
So when Gerry was seen in reception between 9.30pm and 10pm it wasn't to check that the police had been called?  What was he doing there then?

Cite?

Gerry did not get to the reception until 10:40. The call to the police is logged at 10:41. FACT!

At 10:30 Pamela Fenn offered Gerry her phone to call the police. He told her they had been called. They had not been called!

At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #589 on: July 06, 2020, 03:27:33 PM »
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« Last Edit: July 06, 2020, 03:31:43 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #590 on: July 06, 2020, 03:32:09 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 06, 2020, 03:22:22 PM
Cite?

Gerry did not get to the reception until 10:40. The call to the police is logged at 10:41. FACT!

At 10:30 Pamela Fenn offered Gerry her phone to call the police. He told her they had been called. They had not been called!

At that moment she offered Gerry help, saying that he could use her phone to contact the authorities, to which he replied that this had already been done. It was just after 22.30.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

I think this is what is being referred to.

“He knows about the situation that happened at the Ocean Club concerning the disappearance of a little given that on the day in question (03/05/2007) he was on duty and was contacted by a member of staff from the Tapas Restaurant between 09.30 and 22.00 who informed him that the daughter of some guests who were dining there had disappeared.”

No mention of Gerry.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #591 on: July 06, 2020, 03:36:20 PM »
Thanks. Matt went to the reception at 10:10 and did not see Gerry there. Gerry did not go until 10:40 after Mrs Fenn had offered her phone to him.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #592 on: July 06, 2020, 03:36:57 PM »
So we're all agreed.  The alarm was raised at 9.20pm, shortly after Gerry returned from his chat with Jes Wilkins.
Cool
Someone phone the police and let them know they have had this all wrong for 13 years.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #593 on: July 06, 2020, 03:38:46 PM »
I have the alarm time at 9:54 and the Smith family sighting at 10:03. Within 10 minutes after the alarm was raised the Smith sighting happened.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #594 on: July 06, 2020, 03:42:10 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 06, 2020, 03:38:46 PM
I have the alarm time at 9:54 and the Smith family sighting at 10:03. Within 10 minutes after the alarm was raised the Smith sighting happened.
Well you're wrong.  According to the chef the alarm was raised at 9.20 pm and according to G-Unit he would know what the time was when it happened and is therefore a credible witness. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #595 on: July 06, 2020, 03:44:43 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 05, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
Pelega was the head chef, with responsibility for five kitchens around the site. They were, I think, the Millenium, the Tapas, two snack bars related to swimming pools and one other. As head chef he worked in the Millenium kitchen but organised and oversaw the others, which is why he visited the Tapas on 3rd. It's highly unlikely that he made a mistake with the times, imo, given his seniority and his responsibilities.
Pelaga hears a commotion at 9.20pm.  As the Alpha-Sceptic above has pointed out it's highly unlikely he made a mistake with the times therefore we must accept he is right and everyone else (even Pathfinder) is wrong.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #596 on: July 06, 2020, 03:49:45 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 06, 2020, 03:38:46 PM
I have the alarm time at 9:54 and the Smith family sighting at 10:03. Within 10 minutes after the alarm was raised the Smith sighting happened.

Does anyone of the waiters etc mention Kate coming into the tapas screaming ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #597 on: July 06, 2020, 03:58:58 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 06, 2020, 03:19:58 PM
So when Gerry was seen in reception between 9.30pm and 10pm it wasn't to check that the police had been called?  What was he doing there then?

Why would he be checking the Police had been called before Kate’s 10:03 check? Someone’s timeline doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
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Offline The General

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #598 on: July 06, 2020, 04:14:14 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 06, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
Why would he be checking the Police had been called before Kate’s 10:03 check? Someone’s timeline doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
YeeeeOUCH!
Have some of that!
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #599 on: July 06, 2020, 04:23:51 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 06, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
Why would he be checking the Police had been called before Kate’s 10:03 check? Someone’s timeline doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
What 10.03 check?  I thought we'd established the alarm was raised prior to 9.20pm moments after Gerry's encounter with Jez Wilkins?
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