Goncalo Amaral.

[Venturi Swirl]

Well why has that neer been publicly said - why was the book allowed to stand

Why was that not part of the mccs defense - that he didn't understand the evidence?

The book wrote on his belief in the investigation - and is still there to read.

So it is not as clear as you try to make out - the book obviously can't be disputed. [any of it]

The only ones who have tried that is the mccs. - not SY or anyone else

The book was allowed to stand because Gonc's right to write any old shite was perceived by the PT court to be greater than the McCanns' right not to be publicly accused of hiding their child's body.    The McCanns weren't on trial so why do you ask about their defence?  They were defending nothing, Amaral was the defendant.

[Venturi Swirl]

Again Sadie - if Ameral got it so wrong why has British police never done anything about The Truth Of The Lie.

What on earth could the British police do about some PT ex-cop's book even if they'd wanted to??

[kizzy]

The book was allowed to stand because Gonc's right to write any old shite was perceived by the PT court to be greater than the McCanns' right not to be publicly accused of hiding their child's body.    The McCanns weren't on trial so why do you ask about their defence?  They were defending nothing, Amaral was the defendant.

Oi, watch your language - what he put is what he the cop on the case believed had happened. [no abduction]

The mccs tried to have the book banned - they failed.

[kizzy]

What on earth could the British police do about some PT ex-cop's book even if they'd wanted to??

Exactly - the British police could do nothing about what was said about them because...... it was true.

[Venturi Swirl]

Exactly - the British police could do nothing about what was said about them because...... it was true.

  Which part was true? 

[Venturi Swirl]

Oi, watch your language - what he put is what he the cop on the case believed had happened. [no abduction]

The mccs tried to have the book banned - they failed.

Yes I'm not disputing any of that but you asked why the book was allowed to stand and I just explained it to you.  I also explained that the McCanns were not the defendants as you seemed unaware of this.  Happy to help as always.

[kizzy]

Yes I'm not disputing any of that but you asked why the book was allowed to stand and I just explained it to you.  I also explained that the McCanns were not the defendants as you seemed unaware of this.  Happy to help as always.

Well, let's say why didn't the mccs put as one of the reasons wanting it banned -

Is because GA didn't understand the evidence and it wasn't true - they didn't.

Thanks for your help though VS 

[kizzy]

  Which part was true?

Try reading chapter 6 - The arrival of the English police. and a few more chapters mentioning them,



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On May 14th, Kate Healy is indignant about the attitude of the liaison officer, who asks her where her daughter is. Neither she nor her husband accepts anyone doubting their word. The officer will be sent packing - and his colleague too - a week after his arrival. That attitude is, to say the least, shocking on the part of parents confronted by such a situation, that, what is more, is in a foreign country. Those two police officers, who distinguished themselves through long experience in the management of situations of kidnap and abduction, had been, all the same, entirely at their disposal; they provided daily logistical and legal support, and afforded them all the help they could have needed.

snip


As time went by, we noticed that a certain number of the police officers sent to Portugal were poorly informed about the progress of the investigation. One of them who - like the majority - was coming to Portugal for the first time, was wearing a green and yellow rubber wrist band, bought for £2, which he played with nervously. The inscription read, "Look for Madeleine." Some of his colleagues told him that he would soon get rid of it. As a matter of fact, he took it off as soon as he got properly into the investigation and he had learned about the evidence placing doubt on the theory of abduction.

[Venturi Swirl]

Try reading chapter 6 - The arrival of the English police. and a few more chapters mentioning them,



snip
On May 14th, Kate Healy is indignant about the attitude of the liaison officer, who asks her where her daughter is. Neither she nor her husband accepts anyone doubting their word. The officer will be sent packing - and his colleague too - a week after his arrival. That attitude is, to say the least, shocking on the part of parents confronted by such a situation, that, what is more, is in a foreign country. Those two police officers, who distinguished themselves through long experience in the management of situations of kidnap and abduction, had been, all the same, entirely at their disposal; they provided daily logistical and legal support, and afforded them all the help they could have needed.

snip


As time went by, we noticed that a certain number of the police officers sent to Portugal were poorly informed about the progress of the investigation. One of them who - like the majority - was coming to Portugal for the first time, was wearing a green and yellow rubber wrist band, bought for £2, which he played with nervously. The inscription read, "Look for Madeleine." Some of his colleagues told him that he would soon get rid of it. As a matter of fact, he took it off as soon as he got properly into the investigation and he had learned about the evidence placing doubt on the theory of abduction.

And all this can be independently verified as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, by whom exactly?

[Brietta]

Well why has that neer been publicly said - why was the book allowed to stand

Why was that not part of the mccs defense - that he didn't understand the evidence?

The book wrote on his belief in the investigation - and is still there to read.

So it is not as clear as you try to make out - the book obviously can't be disputed. [any of it]

The only ones who have tried that is the mccs. - not SY or anyone else

Interesting you should say so and interesting how after so many years you are still getting it so wrong.

Just how wrong is illustrated by the work being carried out on Madeleine McCann's disappearance since her case became very, very active in 2013 and remains so today ... and all started by the untiring efforts of Madeleine's parents to get something done on her behalf.

Amaral was sacked and later retired allegedly to write his self serving book about a case he handled incompetently from start to his finish.
Cristovao wrote a highly informative book about a police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance which he should have known nothing about at the time of writing.

Both these commentators on Madeleine McCann's very lucrative case for them are publicly silent just now ... in Cristovao's case the reason is probably obvious ... I wonder why Amaral is so quiet though.  Any ideas on that?

[Brietta]

And all this can be independently verified as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, by whom exactly?

Come on VS ... it is after all a book about lies according to the title ... and who better to write a book full of lies than the author the Portuguese law courts awarded a conviction to for telling them.

[Eleanor]

Again Sadie - if Ameral got it so wrong why has British police never done anything about The Truth Of The Lie.

Because it was The truth of the lie and never anything to prove otherwise.  Amaral had no proof.  Ever.

[Venturi Swirl]

BBC BREAKING NEWS

A 43-year-old German prisoner who travelled around Portugal in a camper van is now the focus of Scotland Yard's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Police believe he was in the area where the three-year-old was last seen in May 2007.
They are appealing for information about the van and the suspect's other vehicle, a Jaguar.
The man transferred it to someone else's name the day after she vanished.
"Someone out there knows a lot more than they're letting on,"said DCI Mark Cranwell, who's leading the Met inquiry.
The force said it remained a "missing persons" investigation because it doesn't have "definitive evidence" as to whether Madeleine is alive or not.
However, German investigators at the Federal Criminal Police Office, the Bundeskriminalamt (BKA), have classed it as a "murder inquiry".
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Scotland Yard said the German authorities had taken the lead on this aspect of the case because the German suspect was in custody in their country.
Detectives said he was in jail for an "unrelated matter" and had "previous convictions", but they declined to supply more details.
'Critical' information
An appeal on German television was broadcast this evening at 19:15 BST.
DCI Cranwell said the prisoner, then aged 30, frequented the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, staying for "days upon end" in his camper van and living a "transient lifestyle".
He was in the Praia de Luz area where the McCann family was staying when she disappeared and received a phone call at 7.32pm, which ended at 8.02pm.
Police have released details of the suspect's phone number and the number he dialled saying any information about them could be "critical" to the inquiry.
They also want the person who called the suspect to come forward.
"They're a key witness and we urge them to get in touch," said DCI Cranwell.
"Some people will know the man we're describing today... you may be aware of some of the things he's done," he said.
"He may have confided in you about the disappearance of Madeleine.
"More than 13 years have passed and your loyalties may have changed," he added.
"Now is the time to come forward."
Police said the suspect was one of 600 people that detectives on the inquiry, known as Operation Grange, originally looked at, though he had not been a suspect.
After an appeal in 2017, "significant" fresh information about him was provided.
Since then, Met detectives have carried out "extensive inquiries" in Portugal and Germany in order to gather more details about him.
Scotland Yard said they were trying to "prove or disprove" his involvement in the case and retained an "open mind".

[G-Unit]

It appears that Amaral retained some inside connection with the case as he referred to this suspect a year ago when he spoke to Mark Saunokonoko;

https://www.9news.com.au/national/madeleine-mccann-german-suspect-a-scapegoat-portugal-detective-goncalo-amaral-claims-maddie-podcast/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357

[Mr Gray]

It appears that Amaral retained some inside connection with the case as he referred to this suspect a year ago when he spoke to Mark Saunokonoko;

https://www.9news.com.au/national/madeleine-mccann-german-suspect-a-scapegoat-portugal-detective-goncalo-amaral-claims-maddie-podcast/0ea5ef10-8717-4cfb-adea-a1c8baf2d357

it would be rather odd if he hadnt....i wouldnt trust amaral's opinion on whether the suspect is a scapegoat. he is just  a little biased