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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2970 on: August 18, 2020, 02:26:50 PM »
Its there for everyone to read...as factual....the mccs failed to get it banned.

The bottom line is that the McCanns had their day in court and failed to demonstrate that GA's book contained lies.

So what he has wrote is the truth from what happened.

no it isnt...eddie didnt find a body under  a flagsone in Jesey...it isnt true   

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2971 on: August 18, 2020, 02:39:30 PM »
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS9_FINANCIAL.htm

Summary of Verifiable Facts
 
(1) It wasn't the British police who told the PJ that the McCann's didn't have any credit cards. It was Amaral's poor understanding of the information received from the banking authorities, which led to a misinterpretation and incorrect reporting.
(3) Relying on a newspaper for an accurate account is bizarre.
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39077777/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2019

Off topic on another thread the suggestion has been made that the British police withheld information from the Portuguese when it was nothing more than Amaral getting entirely the wrong end of the stick yet again.
A talent from which he has been able to forge a very lucrative career.
'Nowt as daft as folk' is there.

Amaral requested information from the UK-Portugal liaison officer Glen Pounder without response;

At the same time, we hope to obtain a response to our request to the British authorities, made through the liaison officer in Portugal on the first day of the investigation, for information on the McCann family and their friends. Given the fact that we have, so far, received no response to this enquiry, we will make the request for the desired information through the rogatory letter. We ask Stuart about this matter and he says that, “they are in the process of gathering that information.”

However, a preliminary response comes to us about the McCanns’ financial situation: astonishingly, there are no records of the McCanns holding any credit or debit cards.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2972 on: August 18, 2020, 02:47:38 PM »
Amaral requested information from the UK-Portugal liaison officer Glen Pounder without response;

At the same time, we hope to obtain a response to our request to the British authorities, made through the liaison officer in Portugal on the first day of the investigation, for information on the McCann family and their friends. Given the fact that we have, so far, received no response to this enquiry, we will make the request for the desired information through the rogatory letter. We ask Stuart about this matter and he says that, “they are in the process of gathering that information.”

However, a preliminary response comes to us about the McCanns’ financial situation: astonishingly, there are no records of the McCanns holding any credit or debit cards.

He got that wrong as well... perhaps it was the language barrier

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2973 on: August 18, 2020, 04:34:58 PM »
no it isnt...eddie didnt find a body under  a flagsone in Jesey...it isnt true

Where did I say that.


On the very day that interrogation of the McCann couple starts, a second preliminary report reaches us. Contrary to the first report, it accords more importance to the DNA profile of the blood lifted from the floor of the apartment. In that sample, the DNA came from more than one donor, but the confirmed DNA components match the corresponding components of Madeleine's DNA profile.

As for the samples lifted from the boot of the car, there is no further mention of the 15 markers, as if they had never existed.

Suddenly, light was starting to be cast on the issue: either this LCN technique is not reliable or it's simply much easier to explain the presence of Madeleine's DNA in the apartment than in the boot of a car hired 24 days after her disappearance.

At our insistence, Stuart contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying: "With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England." I look at my colleagues and see that they are as stupefied as I am. In fact, in Portugal, it's not so easy to arrest someone. We explain to Stuart that the McCanns interrogations would not result in detention. According to Portuguese law, the crimes of concealment of a corpse and simulating an abduction are not liable to remanding in custody.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2974 on: August 18, 2020, 05:24:42 PM »
Where did I say that.


On the very day that interrogation of the McCann couple starts, a second preliminary report reaches us. Contrary to the first report, it accords more importance to the DNA profile of the blood lifted from the floor of the apartment. In that sample, the DNA came from more than one donor, but the confirmed DNA components match the corresponding components of Madeleine's DNA profile.

As for the samples lifted from the boot of the car, there is no further mention of the 15 markers, as if they had never existed.

Suddenly, light was starting to be cast on the issue: either this LCN technique is not reliable or it's simply much easier to explain the presence of Madeleine's DNA in the apartment than in the boot of a car hired 24 days after her disappearance.

At our insistence, Stuart contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying: "With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England." I look at my colleagues and see that they are as stupefied as I am. In fact, in Portugal, it's not so easy to arrest someone. We explain to Stuart that the McCanns interrogations would not result in detention. According to Portuguese law, the crimes of concealment of a corpse and simulating an abduction are not liable to remanding in custody.

I hardly believe a word Amaral says..

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2975 on: August 18, 2020, 05:38:43 PM »
There was a lot of conflict with those results L...The biggest regret of PJ is sending the results to Birmingham



HAT THE LABORATORY REPORTS BRING TO LIGHT

The preliminary results from FSS were enlightening in a way, and confirmed the information given by the EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and the CSI dog.

- The CSI dog, Keela, signalled the presence of human blood where Eddie, the EVRD dog, marked the presence of cadaver odour - on the floor tiles behind the sofa in the lounge, on the key and in the boot of the Renault Scenic that was used by the McCanns from May 27th onwards.

- the bodily fluids, according to the FSS, contain markers from Madeleine's DNA profile.

These elements do not constitute concrete proof but simply clues to be added to those we already possess. In itself, the definition of a DNA profile from LCN is not considered as evidence in a criminal investigation. In his report, the English scientist says that he cannot give answers to the following questions: when was the DNA deposited? In what way? What bodily fluid does the DNA come from? Has a crime been committed?

The scientific evidence is not enough and it has to be accompanied by other types of material, documented and testimonial evidence. It is only in this way that the entire puzzle can be reconstructed and certainties can be achieved, for the material truth to be established.

The FSS has still not provided the result of the technical analysis of the hair found in the boot of the car. Once more, Stuart has to contact the laboratory. Nothing has been done. We want to know two things: if the hair is indeed Madeleine's, and if it comes from a living or a dead person. The FSS can only answer the first question. English colleagues present at the meeting raise the possibility of the hair being sent to other European laboratories which have the resources to clear up the second point for us: hair from a living or a dead person. But the FSS does not seem to want to part with the hair. They claim that using a colour comparison test they can establish if the hair belongs to Madeleine and in a second stage, identify the DNA profile. None of that will happen. We never find out if the hair was Madeleine's or her parents' or her brother's or her sister's, even though the laboratory has the DNA profiles of each member of the family.


What we need to consider, as scientists, is whether the match is genuine and legitimate; because Madeline has deposited DNA as a result of being in the car or whether Madeline merely appears to match the result by chance. The individual components in Madeline's profile are not unique to her, it is the specific combination of 19 components that makes her profile unique above all others. Elements of Madeline's profile are also present within the the profiles of many of the scientists here in Birmingham, myself included. it's important to stress that 50% of Madeline's profile will be shared with each parent. It is not possible in a mixture of more than two people, to determine or evaluate which specific DNA components pair with each other. Namely, we cannot separate the components out into 3 individual DNA profiles.


Amaral didn't understand the explanation did he.   He blames everyone,  even the qualified scientist.   

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2976 on: August 18, 2020, 05:40:29 PM »
Where did I say that.


On the very day that interrogation of the McCann couple starts, a second preliminary report reaches us. Contrary to the first report, it accords more importance to the DNA profile of the blood lifted from the floor of the apartment. In that sample, the DNA came from more than one donor, but the confirmed DNA components match the corresponding components of Madeleine's DNA profile.

As for the samples lifted from the boot of the car, there is no further mention of the 15 markers, as if they had never existed.

Suddenly, light was starting to be cast on the issue: either this LCN technique is not reliable or it's simply much easier to explain the presence of Madeleine's DNA in the apartment than in the boot of a car hired 24 days after her disappearance.

At our insistence, Stuart contacts the FSS and asks them if they think the Portuguese are idiots. We hear him saying: "With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England." I look at my colleagues and see that they are as stupefied as I am. In fact, in Portugal, it's not so easy to arrest someone. We explain to Stuart that the McCanns interrogations would not result in detention. According to Portuguese law, the crimes of concealment of a corpse and simulating an abduction are not liable to remanding in custody.


He shouldn't have jumped to conclusions should he.

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2977 on: August 18, 2020, 05:42:08 PM »
Its there for everyone to read...as factual....the mccs failed to get it banned.

The bottom line is that the McCanns had their day in court and failed to demonstrate that GA's book contained lies.

So what he has wrote is the truth from what happened.


So Gerry is a surgeon who cuts up bodies before breakfast his he?   The McCann's give the children Calpol to make them sleep did they another lie.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2020, 05:49:50 PM by Lace »

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2978 on: August 18, 2020, 05:43:26 PM »
You Dont know it wasn't a fact nothing has been proved to the contrary

Nothing had been proved!!  but he still stated it as fact.

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2979 on: August 18, 2020, 05:44:54 PM »
How do you know they didnt...they are still not cleared of any involvement of Maddie's disappearance.

Accusing them with no definite proof.

Offline Lace

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2980 on: August 18, 2020, 05:47:26 PM »
That doesn’t however explain the fact that she is described not as anxious but annoyed.....a completely different emotion.

By Amaral.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2981 on: August 19, 2020, 09:28:34 AM »
Nothing had been proved!!  but he still stated it as fact.

The book was a subject of libel..it will have been scrutinized by lawyers.

GA won the case so obviously it seems nothing in the book was libelous.

Or damaged the mccs reputation.....all that he wrote was facts from the investigation.

The truth ...it seems the lie was the abduction in my opinion that's why its called Truth of the lie.

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2982 on: August 19, 2020, 09:34:17 AM »
Accusing them with no definite proof.

He never got chance to get to  the truth did he ..they wanted rid first opportunity.

He criticized UK police ...and that was him gone.

Then the mccs went after him to silence him ...but they failed.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2983 on: August 19, 2020, 09:37:39 AM »
He never got chance to get to  the truth did he ..they wanted rid first opportunity.

He criticized UK police ...and that was him gone.

Then the mccs went after him to silence him ...but they failed.

I think he had been silenced..when was the last time he said Maddie died in the apartment and her parents covered it up..cite

Offline kizzy

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #2984 on: August 19, 2020, 09:42:50 AM »
I think he had been silenced..when was the last time he said Maddie died in the apartment and her parents covered it up..cite

He doesn't have to does he ...its all in the book free for anyone to read.

Its still there ..the mccs couldn't get it banned.