Goncalo Amaral.

[jassi]

Not much point in dead locking the front door then was there.

I don't suppose they gave it a thought - any more than they thought about the well being of their 3 children - allegedly.

[Venturi Swirl]

Awfully careless if it wasn't.
Not only did these people leave the patio door unlocked and the bedroom window unlocked, but possibly also the front door only on a latch.

They might as well have pinned a note to the front door saying ' burgle me'

Off for their meal with friends with not a care in the world - it would seem.

You’re not suggesting that the apartment was left vulnerable to intruders are you?   No, no, no, no, no, the sceptic script is that abduction by a stranger would have been virtually impossible in the circumstances what with all the comings and goings of parents checking up on their kids.  The parents can’t be both incredibly neglectful as well as overly attentive so which one is it? 

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You’re not suggesting that the apartment was left vulnerable to intruders are you?   No, no, no, no, no, the sceptic script is that abduction by a stranger would have been virtually impossible in the circumstances what with all the comings and goings of parents checking up on their kids.  The parents can’t be both incredibly neglectful as well as overly attentive so which one is it?

Leaving three children under the age of four in a holiday apartment is incredibly neglectful in my opinion. I'm sure that likely haunts the parents on a daily basis.

[Venturi Swirl]

Leaving three children under the age of four in a holiday apartment is incredibly neglectful in my opinion. I'm sure that likely haunts the parents on a daily basis.

You missed the point entirely but never mind.

[G-Unit]

You’re not suggesting that the apartment was left vulnerable to intruders are you?   No, no, no, no, no, the sceptic script is that abduction by a stranger would have been virtually impossible in the circumstances what with all the comings and goings of parents checking up on their kids.  The parents can’t be both incredibly neglectful as well as overly attentive so which one is it?

That was the anomaly. Madeleines parents were, according to them, neglectful. The group, according to their testimony, spent all evening traipsing back and forth. The two things aren't connected.

[Venturi Swirl]

That was the anomaly. Madeleines parents were, according to them, neglectful. The group, according to their testimony, spent all evening traipsing back and forth. The two things aren't connected.

Can I have a cite for Madeleine’s parents admitting they were neglectful please?

In your opinion were the Tapas group neglectful or attentive or (as you seem to suggest) both?  Because IMO you can’t have attentive, neglectful parents.

[Brietta]

That was the anomaly. Madeleines parents were, according to them, neglectful. The group, according to their testimony, spent all evening traipsing back and forth. The two things aren't connected.

I think it is well established that Madeleine's parents recognise that they erred. 

But it was the perfect storm situation was it not.

Amaral also admits that mistakes were made when the PJ did not follow through on their inquiry into Brueckner.

[G-Unit]

I think it is well established that Madeleine's parents recognise that they erred. 

But it was the perfect storm situation was it not.

Amaral also admits that mistakes were made when the PJ did not follow through on their inquiry into Brueckner.

The anomaly was that the parents publicised the 30 minute gaps between checks, but that didn't mean that the apartment was unobserved during those gaps.

[Venturi Swirl]

The anomaly was that the parents publicised the 30 minute gaps between checks, but that didn't mean that the apartment was unobserved during those gaps.

What are you getting at?

[Brietta]

The anomaly was that the parents publicised the 30 minute gaps between checks, but that didn't mean that the apartment was unobserved during those gaps.

Sorry - I'm not following the thrust of your argument.

We know there is a high probability that those dining at the restaurant were under observation.  Are you saying that Amaral didn't take that into consideration?

[G-Unit]

Sorry - I'm not following the thrust of your argument.

We know there is a high probability that those dining at the restaurant were under observation.  Are you saying that Amaral didn't take that into consideration?

I don't think there's any evidence at all that the group was being observed. The parents made it very clear that they checked their children every 30 minutes. The apartment, however, was seen by every member of the group who went to check on their own children. It was also seen by Jeremy Wilkins, the Moyes and Mr Totman, who all passed by. Two cars passed the apartment also during the time scale. How many more people passed by is unknown, but the apartment was not unobserved during those 30 minute gaps.

[Eleanor]

If someone or two were lurking to abduct Madeleine then they will have been checking on The Tapas 9 at dinner.  This much is obvious.

Never have I believed that Brueckner could have done this alone.

[Venturi Swirl]

I don't think there's any evidence at all that the group was being observed. The parents made it very clear that they checked their children every 30 minutes. The apartment, however, was seen by every member of the group who went to check on their own children. It was also seen by Jeremy Wilkins, the Moyes and Mr Totman, who all passed by. Two cars passed the apartment also during the time scale. How many more people passed by is unknown, but the apartment was not unobserved during those 30 minute gaps.

So in your opinion the apartment was being closely monitored by a bunch of highly neglectful parents then.

[Eleanor]

So in your opinion the apartment was being closely monitored by a bunch of highly neglectful parents then.

No Logic you see.

[G-Unit]

So in your opinion the apartment was being closely monitored by a bunch of highly neglectful parents then.

Not conciously.