Was Mark Rowley wrong to claim that Madeleine McCann was abducted?

[stephen25000]

Please also note, as per forum rules, goading comments will be removed.

[Mr Gray]

Why would SY have preference over the Portuguese System.

Please enlighten us.

You need to read your own posts
You said SY had no power of arrest
They do in certain cases
You were wrong
That's it

[stephen25000]

Why would they have jurisdiction in this case ?

FACTS PLEASE.

[Mr Gray]

Why would they have jurisdiction in this case ?

FACTS PLEASE.

IVE GIVEN THE CITE...ITS ALL EXPLAINED QUITE CLEARLY...WHY DID YOU TYPE IN CAPLITALS

[Alice Purjorick]

its obvious what grounds they might  be able to exercise jurisdiction in portugal if they had to...they could issue an arrest warrant

You seem to be confusing/combining two separate legal matters.
A European Arrest Warrant is issued by one state requiring another member state to arrest a criminal suspect for transfer such that the person (suspect) can be put on trial in the issuing state.

In this instance jurisdiction will be Portugal unless the offence committed is one of three already listed in your post and the UK ask for jurisdiction on the basis the victim was a UK national. Place you bets.

[Mr Gray]

You seem to be confusing/combining two separate legal matters.
A European Arrest Warrant is issued by one state requiring another member state to arrest a criminal suspect for transfer such that the person (suspect) can be put on trial in the issuing state.

In this instance jurisdiction will be Portugal unless the offence committed is one of three already listed in your post and the UK ask for jurisdiction on the basis the victim was a UK national. Place you bets.

so in that instance SY would have the power of arrest via a EAW...which is exactly what I posted....so I am confusing nothing...thank you for confirming I am correct

[Miss Taken Identity]

so in that instance SY would have the power of arrest via a EAW...which is exactly what I posted....so I am confusing nothing...thank you for confirming I am correct

 

No, not to fast there... IF OG find an actual bona fide crime AND they have a suspect/s.
1. they have to contact PJ
2. PJ will consider if enough evidence is collected to prosecute
3 if they are satisfied- they- the PJ will arrest and charge, and prosecute
IF there is not enough evidence- they will not arrest and the matter will be closed.

You are trying to make out that SY can just walk up to suspects in another country and arrest who they suspect of  crime... err they can't.

PJ will have the last say in this matter. Supporters have no say or influence, and neither does the EU or British Government...

[stephen25000]

Yes I always do.

The sensible ones

You do not pick and choose which forum rules you follow/obey.


They are for everyone.

[Brietta]

As reminder, YET AGAIN, do not type opinion as fact.

Lead by example perhaps?  Your signature seems to be an expression of opinion.

[Mr Gray]

 

No, not to fast there... IF OG find an actual bona fide crime AND they have a suspect/s.
1. they have to contact PJ
2. PJ will consider if enough evidence is collected to prosecute
3 if they are satisfied- they- the PJ will arrest and charge, and prosecute
IF there is not enough evidence- they will not arrest and the matter will be closed.

You are trying to make out that SY can just walk up to suspects in another country and arrest who they suspect of  crime... err they can't.

PJ will have the last say in this matter. Supporters have no say or influence, and neither does the EU or British Government...

never said any of that....best read the thread first

stephen said SY have no poswer of arrest...hes wrong...they do
whether they would ever have to use them is a totally different point


in the unlikely event that portugal refused to arrest a suspect and SY had sufficient grounds ...SY could issue an EAW which means portugal would not have the final say

[barrier]

in the case of certain crimes they would ahve the power to arrest via european arrest warrant

,SY couldn't arrest any one in Portugal for a trial in Portugal,on a EAW.

[Mr Gray]

,SY couldn't arrest any one in Portugal for a trial in Portugal,on a EAW.

the trial would be in the UK

[Mr Gray]

Let's not play games Brietta.

There are other peoples signatures which I don't like, but I don't go on about them.

yours is stating opinion as fact and therefore breaking the rule you keep going on about

[stephen25000]

As a reminder, no crime has been determined.

if any one was determined, it would be handled by them.

I don't imagine the Portuguese would be very happy for UK interference in a Portuguese case.

[Mr Gray]

As a reminder, no crime has been determined.

if any one was determined, it would be handled by them.

I don't imagine the Portuguese would be very happy for UK interference in a Portuguese case.

but your claim that SY have no power to arrest is wrong...asI have clearly pointed out