White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 3

[Holly Goodhead]

I agree, I wouldn't hear my neighbours drive off in the small hours.

There is NOTHING that could/can clear him and resurrection is right! 

Bourtree cottage is surrounded by other properties so law of averages someone would have seen or heard a car start up in such a rural location.  Also if JB was off to murder his family he would know all it would take is someone to say 'well I heard/saw a car start up at?' and he would be rumbled.

As someone who believes he's innocent I'm very confident his conviction will be overturned based on new forensic evidence.

[Myster]

Bourtree cottage is surrounded by other properties so law of averages someone would have seen or heard a car start up in such a rural location.  Also if JB was off to murder his family he would know all it would take is someone to say 'well I heard/saw a car start up at?' and he would be rumbled.

As someone who believes he's innocent I'm very confident his conviction will be overturned based on new forensic evidence.

Dorothy Foakes heard him bomb past her cottage in Pages Lane when he drove home at 9:30 the night before. If he then left Bourtree for WHF by car in the middle of the night, he would risk waking neighbours and the same on his return. So the pushbike theory via the shortest RED route there and back seems to me the most logical.

Unless, that is, Caroline's theory that he carried out the murders whilst still at the farm that evening holds any water.

Most, if not all of the Maldon Road route and Head Street wasn't streetlit in 1985. 'Twas the same in 2009 on Google Streetview, and is possibly still unlit today.

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.7458247,0.7563684,3a,77.1y,262.79h,75.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syE_Of1xrXN2jcLuZyHrzaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[Caroline]

Bourtree cottage is surrounded by other properties so law of averages someone would have seen or heard a car start up in such a rural location.  Also if JB was off to murder his family he would know all it would take is someone to say 'well I heard/saw a car start up at?' and he would be rumbled.

As someone who believes he's innocent I'm very confident his conviction will be overturned based on new forensic evidence.

Same as where I live and I wouldn't hear anyone.

[Holly Goodhead]

Same as where I live and I wouldn't hear anyone.

That's why I said law of averages someone would have seen or heard given the number of neighbouring properties and the rural location.

[Caroline]

That's why I said law of averages someone would have seen or heard given the number of neighbouring properties and the rural location.

Not necessarily.

[barrier]

That's why I said law of averages someone would have seen or heard given the number of neighbouring properties and the rural location.

Bambers car could have been heard that many times that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to hear it,so it doesn't register.

[Caroline]

Bambers car could have been heard that many times that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to hear it,so it doesn't register.

Unless you have  reason, you don't hear what you neighbours do. Otherwise no one would sleep.

[Holly Goodhead]

Bambers car could have been heard that many times that it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to hear it,so it doesn't register.

EP seem to think it would have been seen/heard and dismissed the idea he used his car.  You can hear commentary to this effect by Di Miller on The Crimes That Shook Britain Vid.

Bearing in mind we're talking mid week, mid 80's early hours where there was little/no noise/light pollution.

[Myster]

EP seem to think it would have been seen/heard and dismissed the idea he used his car.  You can hear commentary to this effect by Di Miller on The Crimes That Shook Britain Vid.

Bearing in mind we're talking mid week, mid 80's early hours where there was little/no noise/light pollution.

Here... https://youtu.be/_S9U_ljZpts?t=1499

Well done Bob 'Dusty' Miller... https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/sep/16/ofsted-police

[Nicholas]

Here... https://youtu.be/_S9U_ljZpts?t=1499

Well done Bob 'Dusty' Miller... https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/sep/16/ofsted-police

‘He investigated major cases, such as the multiple murders perpetrated by Jeremy Bamber and crimes related to the "George Davis is innocent campaign".

[barrier]

‘He investigated major cases, such as the multiple murders perpetrated by Jeremy Bamber and crimes related to the "George Davis is innocent campaign".

A  playable wicket was dug up cause of that case.

[Nicholas]

A  playable wicket was dug up cause of that case.

Did the CoA declare him ‘innocent’ as Duncan Campbell claims in his headline here https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/24/george-davis-innocent ?

[John]

Did the CoA declare him ‘innocent’ as Duncan Campbell claims in his headline here https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/24/george-davis-innocent ?

The Court of Appeal can overturn a conviction, it is not within their ability or power to declare anyone innocent. No such authority or commission exists within the criminal justice system in the UK.

Clearly Duncan Campbell doesn't understand this.

[Nicholas]

The Court of Appeal can overturn a conviction, it is not within their ability or power to declare anyone innocent. No such authority or commission exists within the criminal justice system in the UK.

Clearly Duncan Campbell doesn't understand this.

So why in 2011 did he write and publish this and how did Gordon Bishop manage this;

“Mr George had brought claims against articles in both The Sun and the News of the World. Allegations included that there were grounds to suspect him of the murder despite his acquittal,
https://www.5rb.com/news/barry-george-wins-apology/

which was clearly smoke and mirrors

‘The Defendant now recognises that those articles would have been understood to mean that there were grounds to suspect Mr George of the murder despite his acquittal. The Defendant accepts that the verdict of the second jury in acquitting Mr George was correct and it apologises to Mr George for any suggestion otherwise.
On Sunday the 3rd August 2008 the News of the World carried a report of the interviews
https://www.5rb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/George-v-News-Group-SIOC-16-Dec-2009.pdf