At Last a Podcast from the Experts.

[faithlilly]

of course...

Then why single Islam out ?

[faithlilly]

The Oxford university perchance?

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I agree with your first sentences thanks for bringing this to the forum Faith.

I only got to read the last one . Makes a lot of sense.  The discussion about Huntly and how he was cornered was very interesting indeed! (They also mention that knowing smirk as a give-a-way), asking questions of police officers and trying to get involved with the investigation.

They also discussed what I have been saying for years the PJ should have separated the tapas/parents interviewed them separately to decide  if further investigation was required or to release them as cleared.  speaking to very senior Social workers at an event recently on child protection. they all nodded that the Social services would have been called in instantly by the police. as the parents of all children were removed and questioned separately and individually.    All that drama about shutters windows and moving doors would have been investigated there and then! God knows what detectives in this country would make of the screraming ans wailing which took place.

I think that’s what the tapas bunch were afraid of......that they would be treated the same as they would have had they neglected their children in the UK and something had happened to one of them.

[Mr Gray]

Then why single Islam out ?

Ive read the bible... But not the Koran

[Mr Gray]

The Oxford university perchance?

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I agree with your first sentences thanks for bringing this to the forum Faith.

I only got to read the last one . Makes a lot of sense.  The discussion about Huntly and how he was cornered was very interesting indeed! (They also mention that knowing smirk as a give-a-way), asking questions of police officers and trying to get involved with the investigation.

They also discussed what I have been saying for years the PJ should have separated the tapas/parents interviewed them separately to decide  if further investigation was required or to release them as cleared.  speaking to very senior Social workers at an event recently on child protection. they all nodded that the Social services would have been called in instantly by the police. as the parents of all children were removed and questioned separately and individually.    All that drama about shutters windows and moving doors would have been investigated there and then! God knows what detectives in this country would make of the screraming ans wailing which took place.

So the PJ were, at fault.... Agreed

[Miss Taken Identity]

So the PJ were, at fault.... Agreed

Yes, they were!  why do you think all sceptics think the police made mistakes. There mistakes let the parents off those poor children off to become celebrities.

The PR mob caught on right away and made good use of that, along with help from the TAPAS being all British like and Doctors as well oh my...

Amaral and the McCanns did say they were treated with kid gloves at the start.

[faithlilly]

Ive read the bible... But not the Koran

So your opinion of the bible is based on knowledge but not your opinion of the Koran....except if you constitute  attending a debate at the Oxford Union ( not university) as ‘knowledge’ of a whole religion.

[Mr Gray]

So your opinion of the bible is based on knowledge but not your opinion of the Koran....except if you constitute  attending a debate at the Oxford Union ( not university) as ‘knowledge’ of a whole religion.

I said that was part of my knowledge ....you are obviously interested in the rest.
I have a great interest in religion although Im an agnostic...I probably mentioned the Koran because Ive been raeding about Sufism due to an interest in Rumi...the Persian poet. Im interested in mysticism in all religions. Ive read lots about most religions...mick brown....a guardian journalist...wrote a wonderful book 20 years ago called the Spirtitual Tourist... I read it and later took off to India to follow in some of his footsteps...

im certainly not anti religion and not an islamaphobe,... I respect everyone and their beliefs

[faithlilly]

I said that was part of my knowledge ....you are obviously interested in the rest.
I have a great interest in religion although Im an agnostic...I probably mentioned the Koran because Ive been raeding about Sufism due to an interest in Rumi...the Persian poet. Im interested in mysticism in all religions. Ive read lots about most religions...mick brown....a guardian journalist...wrote a wonderful book 20 years ago called the Spirtitual Tourist... I read it and later took off to India to follow in some of his footsteps...

im certainly not anti religion and not an islamaphobe,... I respect everyone and their beliefs

So your interest in religion does not extend to reading the source material, such as the Koran.

As to respecting everyone and their beliefs, your own words damn you yet again.

‘My decision to reject Islam is knowledge based.... I don't have to read the Koran to make that decision... Thst is a basic fact you don't seem to understand..’

[Mr Gray]

So your interest in religion does not extend to reading the source material, such as the Koran.

As to respecting everyone and their beliefs, your own words damn you yet again.

‘My decision to reject Islam is knowledge based.... I don't have to read the Koran to make that decision... Thst is a basic fact you don't seem to understand..’

all your opinion...I dont have to read the Koran to reject islam...that is a basic fact you dont understand.

If I beleive the scientific creationist theory I automatically reject the deity creation theory...
as i have said...its you who doesnt understand simple logic

[Miss Taken Identity]

I said that was part of my knowledge ....you are obviously interested in the rest.
I have a great interest in religion although Im an agnostic...I probably mentioned the Koran because Ive been raeding about Sufism due to an interest in Rumi...the Persian poet. Im interested in mysticism in all religions. Ive read lots about most religions...mick brown....a guardian journalist...wrote a wonderful book 20 years ago called the Spirtitual Tourist... I read it and later took off to India to follow in some of his footsteps...

im certainly not anti religion and not an islamaphobe,... I respect everyone and their beliefs

Italics... How very tolerant of you. Murder  /rape/ torture /imprisonment, induced mental conditioning(brainwashing) in the name of sky fairies.

Oh OK. I find myself to be very intolerant of 'religious' people.

I find that when someone brings their religious belief of their chosen God into a debate- they lose!

[Mr Gray]

Italics... How very tolerant of you. Murder  /rape/ torture /imprisonment, induced mental conditioning(brainwashing) in the name of sky fairies.

Oh OK. I find myself to be very intolerant of 'religious' people.

I find that when someone brings their religious belief of their chosen God into a debate- they lose!

what percentage of religious poeplle believe in murder ...rape and torture...you need to get your facts right

[Robittybob1]

The staff at the kids club were not interviewed - this point was raised in Episode 186.

By interviewed do they mean they should have been made arguidos?  I think Jim Laura have this fact wrong.  IMO All the nannies were at least spoken to.  Do they want them investigated in depth?

[Venturi Swirl]

Italics... How very tolerant of you. Murder  /rape/ torture /imprisonment, induced mental conditioning(brainwashing) in the name of sky fairies.

Oh OK. I find myself to be very intolerant of 'religious' people.

I find that when someone brings their religious belief of their chosen God into a debate- they lose!

Do you reject Islam?  Apparently you can’t unless you’ve actually read the Koran. 

[Robittybob1]

Do you reject Islam?  Apparently you can’t unless you’ve actually read the Koran. 

Do you have to read it in Arabic?

[Venturi Swirl]

Do you have to read it in Arabic?

What other way is there to read it?