General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Robittybob1]

It's now the 2nd of October. This date was significant in 2007 - will it be significant in 2018?

I doubt it.

[Sunny]

I can understand that,

1)   but had SY got as many clues on those cases as in the Madeleine case?
So many witnesses to strange sightings etc

2)   Did the police in those cases behave in a similar manner to the way that the chief, Amaral, behaved ?

3)   Did the country where the various children went missing have so many extraordinarily bizarre findings in the cases as in Portugal?

4)   Did they have any thoughts about trafficking as seems to have been the case here?  Investigating that would cost a fortune.

4)   Did any of the other cases have an old woman come and give them a huge number of thought provoking opInions, and ensuing ideas, as happened in this case.  Bringing them a completely fresh outlook on the case, the likes of which nobody had thought of before?


Think about it, Sunny

Sadie I have thought about it and have some answers.

1) There almost certainly wont have been as many strange sightings as I don't expect that any missing person has ever had the mass media coverage that Madeleine Mccann has.

2) Goncalo Amaral was only one policeman (there were many others working on the case at the time he was the "chief" and he was removed from the case in October 2007. The investigation continued on until July 2008.  I believe that the replacement "chiefs" also suspected the McCanns.

3) I didn't say children I said missing family members. "Bizarre" is all in the eyes of the beholder IMO.  I find the Caylee Anthony case findings bizarre and I believe that the police were correct in that instance.

4) I assume you are the "old woman" sadie.  I doubt that many cases would have someone of your clear interest travel to another country more than once to try and piece together what they thought may have happened.  That is down to media coverage again though. Most missing people do not get the mass exposure that Madeleine's case has. This from the first 12 hours as well.  Whether Scotland Yard are taking your information seriously I have no idea as they haven't contacted me to tell me their views.

[jassi]

Scratches head " Sorry guv, can't solve this one"

Thinking about this overnight, I wonder if we are seeing a change of HO tactics.

Instead of giving money in advance in response to claims of 'viable leads' , perhaps they are going for the 'payment by result' approach. SY now to pay for further work and will be reimbursed if they can demonstrate progress.

Could be a cunning way of phasing the investigation out without a big hoo-ha from 'interested parties'.

[faithlilly]

Thinking about this overnight, I wonder if we are seeing a change of HO tactics.

Instead of giving money in advance in response to claims of 'viable leads' , perhaps they are going for the 'payment by result' approach. SY now to pay for further work and will be reimbursed if they can demonstrate progress.

Could be a cunning way of phasing the investigation out without a big hoo-ha from 'interested parties'.

Perhaps it is already in the hands of the CPS ?

[Lace]

Plenty about his feelings, but nothing about his or anyone else's mental health.

Wasn't this particular interview about Gerry's mental health and feelings not anyone elses?

[Venturi Swirl]

Perhaps it is already in the hands of the CPS ?

Your wide-eyed optimism never fails to amuse.

[faithlilly]

Your wide-eyed optimism never fails to amuse.

So you don’t think OG may have suspect’s in their sights ? Do you believe they’ve spent £12 million pounds for nothing ?

[Venturi Swirl]

So you don’t think OG may have suspect’s in their sights ? Do you believe they’ve spent £12 million pounds for nothing ?

I don't think Operation Grange have built a case against the McCanns and have handed it over to the CPS a belief you appear to be clinging to for dear life.

[John]

So you don’t think OG may have suspect’s in their sights ? Do you believe they’ve spent £12 million pounds for nothing ?

They have tried to pin the blame on several different people, both Portuguese and English but to no avail. But in the end I fear they are no closer to solving this case that they were at the outset.

[John]

I don't think Operation Grange have built a case against the McCanns and have handed it over to the CPS a belief you appear to be clinging to for dear life.

Isn't that why Sutton wants a full investigation of everything?

[faithlilly]

I don't think Operation Grange have built a case against the McCanns and have handed it over to the CPS a belief you appear to be clinging to for dear life.

That’s not what I asked.

[Mr Gray]

Isn't that why Sutton wants a full investigation of everything?

Sutton has admitted hedoesnt know a lot about the case

[Venturi Swirl]

That’s not what I asked.

Do I think OP Grange have a suspect in their sights?  Maybe.  Do I believe they have spent £12m on nothing?  Not quite nothing, but I do believe the case may never be solved despite their best efforts.  What I don't believe is that dawn raids on Rothley are due in this century or next, how about you?

[faithlilly]

Do I think OP Grange have a suspect in their sights?  Maybe.  Do I believe they have spent £12m on nothing?  Not quite nothing, but I do believe the case may never be solved despite their best efforts.  What I don't believe is that dawn raids on Rothley are due in this century or next, how about you?

Why would there be dawn raids ?

[John]

Sutton has admitted hedoesnt know a lot about the case

He doesn't need to.  As a former senior Met officer he will know that only a full in-depth investigation will get to the bottom of what happened to Madeleine McCann and anything less just doesn't cut it.  I agree with him that Operation Grange should only be extended if that full encompassing enquiry takes place as to who did what and when.

The sorry sagas involving Red Defence/Oakley and Método 3 require a separate investigation to the disappearance of the child imo because clearly thinks were done which involved criminality. The Met or another UK force if deemed necessary must investigate the links between these so-called private investigators and everyone involved with the parents.